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FRONT PAGE  |  7/3/2015
THURSDAY, JUL 10, 2014  |  21 comments
Faith Groups Seek Exclusion From Bias Rule

After a setback in the Supreme Court in the Hobby Lobby case, President Obama is facing mounting pressure from religious groups demanding to be excluded from his long-promised executive order that would bar discrimination against gay men and lesbians by companies that do government work.

The president has yet to sign the executive order, but last week a group of major faith organizations, including some of Mr. Obama’s allies, said he should consider adding an exemption for groups whose religious beliefs oppose homosexuality. In Burwell v. Hobby Lobby Stores, the court ruled that family-run corporations with religious objections could be exempted from providing employees with insurance coverage for contraception. ...


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News Item7/15/14 8:15 PM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Ah, John Y., it shows you're consistent interest in form over substance. George w. Is still the junior to his father. And you will see, there are a variety of uses for jr. So I will probably from time to time, if I'm sitting in front of my keyboard which I'm not doing now, you will see Bush Jr. pop up. You really do have to start getting interested in substance, especially in religious matters, Is A Catholic Christian An Oxymoron? (Yes!)
George Herbert Walker Bush and George Walker Bush are not legally considered to be Sr. and Jr. as they have different middle names. Under the law as any attorney will tell you a father and son are only called Sr. and Jr. when they have the same middle name. So it is legally inaccurate for you to refer to Daddy Bush and Son Bush as Sr. and Jr.
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News Item7/15/14 2:41 PM
MS  Find all comments by MS
Christopher000... In answer to your question...No.
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News Item7/15/14 6:53 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
John Yurich Wrote:
But Jim Lincoln is in error for referring to George Walker Bush as Jr. because Bush has a different middle name than his father. Daddy Bush is named George Herbert Walker Bush. Therefore they are not Sr. and Jr. Only a father and Son who have the exact same middle name are to be referred to as Sr. and Jr.

Hi John, I know you're right, and to be quite honest, I learned something from you. I guess my issue was that you always beat it and run the risk of people critiquing every letter you type which I wouldn't want.

MS, sorry I have to ask, but are you Masters Slave with the blog? I should know but I've lost track. If so, want to give the address again if it's still up and running?

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News Item7/15/14 5:27 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Ah, John Y., it shows you're consistent interest in form over substance. George w. Is still the junior to his father. And you will see, there are a variety of uses for jr. So I will probably from time to time, if I'm sitting in front of my keyboard which I'm not doing now, you will see Bush Jr. pop up. You really do have to start getting interested in substance, especially in religious matters, Is A Catholic Christian An Oxymoron? (Yes!)
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News Item7/15/14 4:58 AM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Jim Lincoln wrote:
I don't know why John Y., is such a stickler when I refer to the elder Bush's idiot son as Jr.?
The reason I am such a stickler about not referring to George Walker Bush as Jr. is because it is not accurate to do so. A father and son have to have the exact middle name in order to be referred to as Sr. and Jr. according to the Webster's Dictionary that I have.
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News Item7/14/14 2:26 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
I'm glad to hear that Chris! I don't know why John Y., is such a stickler when I refer to the elder Bush's idiot son as Jr.? I wish he was such a stickler on doctrine, e.g., Should Roman Catholicism really be classified as a Christian religion? -- No..

Penny, these "religious" outfits won't have any problem if they stop trying to steal the public money for what should be financed entirely by the supporters and members of these organizations. So, anything that would keep their grubby, greedy fingers off the public money--President go for it!

We have the elder Bush's idiot son stating, ""We want to fund programs that save Americans one soul at a time." excerpt from, the liberal Faith-Based Initiative. (I have to say not agreeing with what all it says it's right in many ways, and interesting to have a liberal opinion on this evil Bush program.) You can buy superficial loyalty, but this is not the Christian way to winning converts.

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News Item7/14/14 12:35 PM
MS  Find all comments by MS
Christopher000 wrote:
Just like when a person mis-spells a word, makes use of a wrong word, etc, etc, as long as it's understood what they meant, then I never see a point in correcting. I'm probably the last one who would ever correct anyones use of grammer, mis-spellings, etc, because I would be corrected right back at some point.
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No worries that job of grammar and spelling corrector is already filled here on this SA site. We have one who polices here quite often.
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News Item7/14/14 9:53 AM
pennned  Find all comments by pennned
this is collectivism!

instead of individual rights, if a group is large enough they can get permission from the king.

this does not correct the problem for individual Christians, so one company saves their hide and the rest are forced under draconian law.

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News Item7/14/14 9:23 AM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Christopher000 wrote:
Just like when a person mis-spells a word, makes use of a wrong word, etc, etc, as long as it's understood what they meant, then I never see a point in correcting. I'm probably the last one who would ever correct anyones use of grammer, mis-spellings, etc, because I would be corrected right back at some point.
But Jim Lincoln is in error for referring to George Walker Bush as Jr. because Bush has a different middle name than his father. Daddy Bush is named George Herbert Walker Bush. Therefore they are not Sr. and Jr. Only a father and Son who have the exact same middle name are to be referred to as Sr. and Jr.
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News Item7/14/14 7:27 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Just like when a person mis-spells a word, makes use of a wrong word, etc, etc, as long as it's understood what they meant, then I never see a point in correcting. I'm probably the last one who would ever correct anyones use of grammer, mis-spellings, etc, because I would be corrected right back at some point.
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News Item7/13/14 5:15 AM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Ah, John Y., yes, the 1913 ed. states that as well, but it states other definitions as well, one being "inferior" Bush Jr. was that to his father, especially on spending tax dollar supporting religious activities. So, while if this occurs, Taxpayer-Financed Bigotry[(!) (?)] for the wrong reasons, it might have the right results of separating State from Church
Why do you keep referring to George Walker Bush as Jr when he is not a Jr since he has a different middle name then his father? Daddy Bush is named George Herbert Walker Bush. Therefore father and son are not Sr and Jr.
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News Item7/12/14 9:10 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Ah, John Y., yes, the 1913 ed. states that as well, but it states other definitions as well, one being "inferior" Bush Jr. was that to his father, especially on spending tax dollar supporting religious activities. So, while if this occurs, Taxpayer-Financed Bigotry[(!) (?)] for the wrong reasons, it might have the right results of separating State from Church
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News Item7/11/14 8:26 PM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Wow, Ronnie the Elder and Ronnie the Younger. Now there's another comparison, the dictionary on my tablet didn't anything about name similarities, but it did have this: the younger of two males. Admittedly comparing the two is insulting to Bush Sr.
The Webster's Dictionary that I have states that Sr is a name of a Father who has the same first and middle name as their son and Jr is a name of a Son who has the same first and middle name as their Father. So since Old Man Bush has a different middle name then the Son then it is inaccurate to refer to them as Sr and Jr.
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News Item7/11/14 8:09 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Wow, Ronnie the Elder and Ronnie the Younger. Now there's another comparison, the dictionary on my tablet didn't anything about name similarities, but it did have this: the younger of two males. Admittedly comparing the two is insulting to Bush Sr.
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News Item7/11/14 7:27 PM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Jim Lincoln wrote:
So, in many cases you'll probably see me call them Sr. and Jr.
Are you not capable of comprehending things? It is not accurate to refer to George Herbert Walker Bush as Sr and George Walker Bush as Jr because they don't have the same middle names. The same thing applied to Ronald Wilson Reagan(Old Man) and Ronald Prescott Reagan(Son). They were not Sr and Jr either. Only an old man and son who have the same middle names can be called Sr and Jr.
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News Item7/11/14 3:12 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Well, John Y., you are correct about George Bush the Elder and George Bush the Younger, though I really don't want to go all that effort to break the family tie, even though the Elder was much more competent than the Younger, though in many ways no more successful than the Younger. So, in many cases you'll probably see me call them Sr. and Jr. even though there was some notable differences between the two. I suppose if Jeb ever became President (God please forbid!) I just might number them 1, 2, and 3.

What separated the President Adams from the Bushes, while both sets were disliked the former set were competent and smart. I haven't really made up my mind on the intelligence of Bush the Elder.

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News Item7/10/14 7:41 PM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Jim Lincoln wrote:
You mean Bush the younger didn't have a father? Now, the only reason I don't agree with that is because I think Barbara Bush is too nice of a lady. I don't blame her for not wanting any more of her sons to be President, considering Baby Face, Bush: Terrible President, Also Not a Smart Man.
Anyway, religious outfits or pseudo-religious outfits getting government money should be stopped. As I said I think this is one of two ADL articles that I have put URLs up for, and this one is quite pertinent to the topic. I'm only sad that a Christian should have written it.
I meant that Daddy Bush is named George Herbert Walker Bush and son is named George Walker Bush. So if they have different middle names then they can't possibly be Sr and Jr. Only a father and son who have the same middle names can be Sr and Jr. That is logic.
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News Item7/10/14 4:06 PM
Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
Jim Lincoln wrote:
You mean Bush the younger didn't have a father? Now, the only reason I don't agree with that is because I think Barbara Bush is too nice of a lady. I don't blame her for not wanting any more of her sons to be President, considering Baby Face, Bush: Terrible President, Also Not a Smart Man.
Anyway, religious outfits or pseudo-religious outfits getting government money should be stopped. As I said I think this is one of two ADL articles that I have put URLs up for, and this one is quite pertinent to the topic. I'm only sad that a Christian should have written it.
only Jim from Lincoln could take an article talking about an executive order from president Obama to discriminate against religious based groups and force the LGBT agenda on them and turn it to an anti-Bush message, who btw, didn't support the LGBT agenda. So being independent means you support governmental enforced bias against groups of faith in their stand against the ungodly LGBT agenda. Really should think this one out a tad better.
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News Item7/10/14 2:45 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
You mean Bush the younger didn't have a father? Now, the only reason I don't agree with that is because I think Barbara Bush is too nice of a lady. I don't blame her for not wanting any more of her sons to be President, considering Baby Face, Bush: Terrible President, Also Not a Smart Man.

Anyway, religious outfits or pseudo-religious outfits getting government money should be stopped. As I said I think this is one of two ADL articles that I have put URLs up for, and this one is quite pertinent to the topic. I'm only sad that a Christian should have written it.

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News Item7/10/14 4:04 AM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Jim Lincoln wrote:
it will be interesting to see what the administration does about this. Faith based initiative was started by President Bush Jr, and has been carried onthrough the latest as ministration. Bush-friendly Church Gets $1 Million 'Faith-based' Grant
andThe Faith-Based Initiative and ‘Charitable Choice’: Harmful to Religious Liberty and Civil Rights. these two articles look at the problem. The second one, and only one of two articles I have seen on the ADL that I felt was really of interest to me, is a PDF file. It is something that really shouldn't have been written by a thoughtful Christian
There was no President Bush Jr because there was no President Bush Sr.
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