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WEDNESDAY, JUN 25, 2014  |  29 comments
Malaysian court to Christians: You can't say 'Allah'

Malaysia's highest court has rejected a challenge from the Catholic Church seeking to overturn a ban on non-Muslims using the word "Allah" to refer to God.

But after the Federal Court announced its verdict on Monday, the government released a statement saying that the ruling would only apply to the Church's newspaper, which has been at the center of the court battle since Malaysian authorities ordered the publication to cease using the Arabic word in 2007.

Malaysian Christians will still be able to use the word "Allah" in church, the government's statement said. ...


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News Item6/29/14 10:27 AM
Dr.Roger Clark | Germany  Contact via emailFind all comments by Dr.Roger Clark
DanUSA wrote:
"Allah is a pre-Islamic word for God."
Who are the people of the pre-Islamic world that worship the false god Allah?
God revealed His name, and it's not a Hebrew name it is His name revealed to the Hebrew people.
Giving God any name other than the names He revealed is a mockery to the true God. allah is a mockery, and The Lord God Almighty does need the name of a false god allah.
Malaysian "chrisitian" need to let go of the false name god allah and be born again. They need to call upon the name of the God of the Christian whose name is JESUS CHRIST.
Allah is a false god, a demonic inspired name for a god of a pedophile prophet mohammed.
Agree entirely DanUSA!

The Koran says that Allah has no Son.

We know that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.

ergo:- Allah is not God.

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News Item6/26/14 1:18 PM
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DanUSA wrote:
This time you're right!
But with the false god allah, the god that can make a normal person blew himself up for the sake of 72 virgins, you're truly wrong.
do you pray to allah?
what can you say about mohammed?
Dan, not sure why you would ask such a question. My only knowledge of allah here in the states is like yours and is associated with the false god and his false prophet mohammed. So No I don't pray to Alllah, neither do I pray to Dios, which I would expect my Spanish brethren to do, neither do I pray to Gott which I would expect my German brethren to do. I trust you are getting the point.
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News Item6/26/14 12:39 PM
DanUSA | USA  Find all comments by DanUSA
Do the research wrote:
GS, I believe Dan is contending the current day missionaries who work for Wycliffe Bible translators and their work are the problem, not the Wycliffe Bible
This time you're right!
But with the false god allah, the god that can make a normal person blew himself up for the sake of 72 virgins, you're truly wrong.

do you pray to allah?
what can you say about mohammed?

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News Item6/26/14 12:19 PM
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GSTexas wrote:
The Wycliffe Bible was a wicked translation?
This is news to me.
GS, I believe Dan is contending the current day missionaries who work for Wycliffe Bible translators and their work are the problem, not the Wycliffe Bible
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News Item6/26/14 11:49 AM
GSTexas  Find all comments by GSTexas
The Wycliffe Bible was a wicked translation?

This is news to me.

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News Item6/26/14 11:08 AM
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DanUSA wrote:
The Bible is the only "God's standard for righteousness"
Study the book of Deuteronomy and you will learn God's standard and not the standard of false god allah.
and about links, ...did it ever come to your senses that there are other links that EXPOSES falsehoods of the links you've given?
links v/s links
there are Christians in the Muslim world that does not call their true God allah.
there are many bible translator that does not use the false name of allah.
infact, before these wicked modern translators, like Wycliffe translators, came out with their wicked bible laced with demon inspired name allah, many bibles had been already translated for muslim convert readers w/out using the name allah.
and this wicked translations are causing havoc in the muslim mission field.
this is the problem with mission based agency - they create their own corrupt theology and get Money from christian churches to propagate their falsehood.
mission must be church based.
the mission of Christianity is to declare truth, NOT compromise or hide the truth.
Ok Dan, fair enough. Take the time to talk to church based missionaries who labor in the field and then come back and tell me you are right.
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News Item6/26/14 10:47 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Mike wrote:
Just wondering, John. As one in the family of God, a very adopted child of his, how would you refer to him, should you be talking face to face? Would you call him by a formal name, or one of familial intimacy?
Normally Mike, I refer to him as LORD in capital letters (which means YHWH). Sometimes as Jehovah. Sometimes as LORD GOD, sometimes as Father. I try to keep to the freedom of the Spirit in prayer while showing the utmost reverence for the Great Spirit.
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News Item6/26/14 10:20 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
John UK wrote:
True enough Mike.
But then,
Psalms 68:4 KJV
(4) Sing unto God, sing praises to his name: extol him that rideth upon the heavens by his name JAH, and rejoice before him.
Just wondering, John. As one in the family of God, a very adopted child of his, how would you refer to him, should you be talking face to face? Would you call him by a formal name, or one of familial intimacy?
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News Item6/26/14 10:10 AM
DanUSA | USA  Find all comments by DanUSA
The Bible is the only "God's standard for righteousness"

Study the book of Deuteronomy and you will learn God's standard and not the standard of false god allah.

and about links, ...did it ever come to your senses that there are other links that EXPOSES falsehoods of the links you've given?

links v/s links

there are Christians in the Muslim world that does not call their true God allah.

there are many bible translator that does not use the false name of allah.

infact, before these wicked modern translators, like Wycliffe translators, came out with their wicked bible laced with demon inspired name allah, many bibles had been already translated for muslim convert readers w/out using the name allah.

and this wicked translations are causing havoc in the muslim mission field.

this is the problem with mission based agency - they create their own corrupt theology and get Money from christian churches to propagate their falsehood.

mission must be church based.

the mission of Christianity is to declare truth, NOT compromise or hide the truth.

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News Item6/26/14 8:12 AM
Do the research  Find all comments by Do the research
Just for clarification

1. Should read J Hudson Taylor.

2. I heartily acknowledge Catholics are not Christians but these rulings also affect genuine believers

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News Item6/26/14 8:07 AM
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DanUSA, shiowing your cultural bias I see. You also apparently chose to not read any of the posted links, so we also see zeal without knowledge. I hope you have no aspirations for the mission field, you and J Hiddon Tsylor or William Carey would not see eye to eye. Thank God for our country but Western culture isn't God's standard for righteousness. Your faith isn't the one bring persecuted so I guess that means you can be sanctimonious and condemning. Thank God that He inhabits the praise of His people in all parts of the world.
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News Item6/26/14 7:47 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Mike wrote:
Bro, we could have it back in the Bible if it was there to begin with. YHWH is what was there. Someone decided vowels could be added, and a J put on the front, but only the JW's care more for the made-up name than for the truth. Now the question arises, now that we are adopted, do we call our father by a formal name, or...
Galatians 4:6
"And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father."
Romans 8:15
"For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father."
True enough Mike.

But then,
Psalms 68:4 KJV
(4) Sing unto God, sing praises to his name: extol him that rideth upon the heavens by his name JAH, and rejoice before him.

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News Item6/26/14 7:34 AM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Protected NameFind all comments by Michael Hranek
Mike wrote:
Bro, we could have it back in the Bible if it was there to begin with. YHWH is what was there. Someone decided vowels could be added, and a J put on the front, but only the JW's care more for the made-up name than for the truth. Now the question arises, now that we are adopted, do we call our father by a formal name, or...
Galatians 4:6
"And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father."
Romans 8:15
"For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father."
Mike NY
I believe it is safe to say
Father!
is something a Muslim would ever say about their 'allah'
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News Item6/26/14 7:21 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
John UK wrote:
Exodus 3:2 KJV
(2) And the angel of the LORD appeared unto him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush: and he looked, and, behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed.
......the LORD, where LORD = Jehovah
Why can't we have Jehovah back in the Bible?
Bro, we could have it back in the Bible if it was there to begin with. YHWH is what was there. Someone decided vowels could be added, and a J put on the front, but only the JW's care more for the made-up name than for the truth. Now the question arises, now that we are adopted, do we call our father by a formal name, or...

Galatians 4:6
"And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father."

Romans 8:15
"For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father."

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News Item6/26/14 4:52 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Exodus 3:2 KJV
(2) And the angel of the LORD appeared unto him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush: and he looked, and, behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed.

......the LORD, where LORD = Jehovah

Why can't we have Jehovah back in the Bible?

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News Item6/26/14 12:34 AM
DanUSA | USA  Find all comments by DanUSA
"Allah is a pre-Islamic word for God."
Who are the people of the pre-Islamic world that worship the false god Allah?

God revealed His name, and it's not a Hebrew name it is His name revealed to the Hebrew people.

Giving God any name other than the names He revealed is a mockery to the true God. allah is a mockery, and The Lord God Almighty does need the name of a false god allah.

Malaysian "chrisitian" need to let go of the false name god allah and be born again. They need to call upon the name of the God of the Christian whose name is JESUS CHRIST.

Allah is a false god, a demonic inspired name for a god of a pedophile prophet mohammed.

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News Item6/25/14 8:03 PM
Christine | California  Find all comments by Christine
following false doctrine...
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News Item6/25/14 8:01 PM
Christine | California  Find all comments by Christine
Christopher000 from Rhode Island... in this age of information and technology, and the fact that as Christians we have the Bible as a guide, there is no excuse for following. other than being veiled by the enemy ( from which Jesus is the remedy)... those who follow the Lord will search out the truth from his Word, and as far as the others go... it is revelation 22:11... carry on the good race brother... the road is getting narrower and narrower...
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News Item6/25/14 7:08 PM
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km wrote:
We need to pray for the Malaysian Christians. Whether we like their use of the word Allah for God is not going to change the fact that this is the word used in the Malay scriptures and what is going to happen is they will have their Bibles confiscated and destroyed. They may also be penalized for owning or distributing Bibles even among Christians. Allah is a pre-Islamic word for God. It is merely a contraction of Al-Ilah or "the God". It is cognate to the hebrew word El. It has been part of the Malay language for hundreds of years. Malaysian Christians know they do not worship the same God as Muslims just as we know we don't worship Thor or Oden just because we use the word God.
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News Item6/25/14 6:55 PM
km | va  Find all comments by km
We need to pray for the Malaysian Christians. Whether we like their use of the word Allah for God is not going to change the fact that this is the word used in the Malay scriptures and what is going to happen is they will have their Bibles confiscated and destroyed. They may also be penalized for owning or distributing Bibles even among Christians. Allah is a pre-Islamic word for God. It is merely a contraction of Al-Ilah or "the God". It is cognate to the hebrew word El. It has been part of the Malay language for hundreds of years. Malaysian Christians know they do not worship the same God as Muslims just as we know we don't worship Thor or Oden just because we use the word God.
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