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FRONT PAGE  |  9/22/2014
THURSDAY, JUN 12, 2014  |  31 comments  |  1 commentary
Southern Baptists condemn transgender people

The annual Southern Baptist Convention voted yesterday to oppose the 'moral validation' of transgender people, approving a proposal that affirms "God's original design to create two distinct and complementary sexes".

Drafted by Denny Burk, associate professor of biblical studies at Boyce College, the resolution asserts that "gender identity should be determined by biological sex and not by one's self-perception – a perception which is often influenced by fallen human nature in ways contrary to God's design".

It continues: "We affirm distinctions in masculine and feminine roles as ordained by God as part of the created order, and that those distinctions should find an echo in every human heart. ...


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News Item6/14/14 8:59 AM
Shane | socal  Contact via emailFind all comments by Shane
Christopher... your last post to SteveR was well said.
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News Item6/14/14 7:57 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Thanks Strat. What I need to do is continue working on not getting so defensive and feeling like I need to defend everyone he offends with my words. I get bothered when people don't speak up loud when he attacks, but maybe I'm the one who should be keeping quiet. I think I mainly do it for those who are just stopping by, don't visit often, new to the forum, etc, because I feel I compare it to one of those things where someone comes on and says, "Hey everyone, Chris is a thief and a child molester." I can either leave it be; remaining silent, and let everyone who doesn't know me believe from there on out that these things are true, or I can set the record straight.
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News Item6/13/14 9:06 AM
Strat  Find all comments by Strat
Christopher000 wrote:
SteveR Wrote:
"MY KING is the KING OF KINGS and LORD of LORDS"
There is no evidence for this comment whatsoever. People here disagree and argue with each other all day long but come against you as a group for good reason. You are void of the light and love of Christ. You are filled to overflowing with rules and regulations, the law, judgements and condemnations, but grossly lack the most important command that the law rests on...love your neighbor as yourself. I would be mortified if another born again Christian.said this to me and it would cause me to step back immediately to take a good hard look at myself, but never you...you consider it persecution for Christ's sake;.thanking Him for being counted worthy to suffer. Hmmm.
Wear any derision you receive from him as a badge of honor,a sign that you are on the right track...I always welcome ridicule from his kind and I'm happy to receive it from the source within them that they willingly submit to and will spend their eternity with.
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News Item6/13/14 7:51 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
SteveR Wrote:
"MY KING is the KING OF KINGS and LORD of LORDS"

There is no evidence for this comment whatsoever. People here disagree and argue with each other all day long but come against you as a group for good reason. You are void of the light and love of Christ. You are filled to overflowing with rules and regulations, the law, judgements and condemnations, but grossly lack the most important command that the law rests on...love your neighbor as yourself. I would be mortified if another born again Christian.said this to me and it would cause me to step back immediately to take a good hard look at myself, but never you...you consider it persecution for Christ's sake;.thanking Him for being counted worthy to suffer. Hmmm.

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News Item6/12/14 9:09 PM
Liza J  Find all comments by Liza J
Yes, penned that is the bottom line!
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News Item6/12/14 8:39 PM
pennned  Find all comments by pennned
its simple, the rights they want are to the kids.
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News Item6/12/14 6:23 PM
William S. Sutherland | Houston, Texas  Find all comments by William S. Sutherland
It's not the Southern Baptists who are doing the condemning. God has already done that. They are simply agreeing with God's decree. Sexual Perversion Is A Sin, Not A Right!
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News Item6/12/14 3:04 PM
Stevenr | Missouri  Find all comments by Stevenr
I'll answer for SteveR... The rights that are being lost:
The right to be allowed to choose what bathroom to use, based on my daily "feeling" and not "plumbing"
The right to force others to call be by whichever pronoun suits that feeling.
The right to sue for massive amounts of money if either of those are denied.
I teach at a secular community college, and have been seeing more and more of these individuals pop up; it is mostly males, and they creep out the female students when they want to use the girls bathroom; most assume they are perverts trying for a peek.
And yes, it is annoying when one complains to the dean, "Professor R. Referred to me as a "He" today, and I felt... Slighted.
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News Item6/12/14 2:28 PM
Christine | California  Find all comments by Christine
... another tragic case of Christians playing judge... I am commanded to love the person and detest the sin.... I do not have the authority to save souls nor to condemn them.... that belongs to the Lord Jesus Christ alone.... how many opportunities to share the gospel will be lost by alienating sinners? that certainly would have left me out, as there is nothing good in me but the Christ that lives in me.... we must not listen to Satan as he whispers in our ears to be judgmental.... when we judge, Satan scores one for his side. I will continue to hate their sin, but I will leave the judgment to the Lord.
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News Item6/12/14 12:56 PM
Answer Strat's question  Find all comments by Answer Strat's question
SteveR wrote:
And if these faithful Kings were my current king, I would follow their instructions. But MY KING is the KING OF KINGS and LORD of LORDS. Jesus left no such order for me. I do have other instructions, and one of them isnt to infringe on their secular rights. I will preach to them, I will rebuke them, I will admonish those that affirm their wickedness, but I will not pray for their secular rights to be taken away.
What rights are being taken away?
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News Item6/12/14 12:27 PM
SteveR | Mt Zion  Find all comments by SteveR
Hey SteveR from la la land wrote:
Wonder if this was childish homophobic rage??
"And Asa did that which was right in the eyes of the Lord, as did David his father.
And he took away the sodomites out of the land." 1Kings 15:11-12.
"And he brake down the houses of the sodomites....2 Kings 23:7.
"Then the Lord rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven." Genesis 19:24.
And if these faithful Kings were my current king, I would follow their instructions. But MY KING is the KING OF KINGS and LORD of LORDS. Jesus left no such order for me. I do have other instructions, and one of them isnt to infringe on their secular rights. I will preach to them, I will rebuke them, I will admonish those that affirm their wickedness, but I will not pray for their secular rights to be taken away.
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News Item6/12/14 11:27 AM
Hey SteveR from la la land  Find all comments by Hey SteveR from la la land
Wonder if this was childish homophobic rage??
"And Asa did that which was right in the eyes of the Lord, as did David his father.
And he took away the sodomites out of the land." 1Kings 15:11-12.
"And he brake down the houses of the sodomites....2 Kings 23:7.
"Then the Lord rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven." Genesis 19:24.
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News Item6/12/14 10:49 AM
Strat  Find all comments by Strat
SteveR wrote:
Prayer is the most powerful force in the universe, and you want to abuse it by persecuting others? Praying for them to lose their rights itsnt the answer
Sorry
What rights are they losing....list them,if your position has any integrity that is.Prayer is not the most powerful force in the Universe,it is the finite appealing to the infinite which is the most powerful force in the Universe.....it is also in the hands of some a splendid excuse for doing and standing for nothing.

John UK....yes it seems he has come out of his prayer.....closet.

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News Item6/12/14 10:49 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Strat wrote:
A real hall of famer isn't it,we are to approve of perversion so we can be persecuted in a society where only those who oppose perversion are persecuted....brilliant!!!
That as well, Strat.

But I was thinking of the Great Persecutor SteveR, who has anathematised almost all posters here on SA (except John Yurich). Shane is the latest victim of his fiery red dragon pronouncements, and you couldn't find a more peaceable guy than the southern Californian. However, I much prefer it when folks like SteveR raise their flag for all to see, rather than play the subterfugionist who is a mite sneaky.

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News Item6/12/14 10:47 AM
pennned  Find all comments by pennned
SteveR, what are you talking about??? you want us to treat a man like a woman and a woman like a man and if we don't we are mean? this is very unhealthy. and Orwellian.
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News Item6/12/14 10:40 AM
SteveR | Mt Zion  Find all comments by SteveR
pennnned wrote:
....and the point is not that we avoid persecution but that we protect the innocent. when perversions become normal, then children are left in these environments to be abused, the reprobates then say that they "own" the children ("the village") through their organizations, not parents, if they can't get laws passed here, they go to UN....
Prayer is the most powerful force in the universe, and you want to abuse it by persecuting others? Praying for them to lose their rights itsnt the answer
Sorry
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News Item6/12/14 10:29 AM
pennnned  Find all comments by pennnned
....and the point is not that we avoid persecution but that we protect the innocent. when perversions become normal, then children are left in these environments to be abused, the reprobates then say that they "own" the children ("the village") through their organizations, not parents, if they can't get laws passed here, they go to UN....
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News Item6/12/14 10:25 AM
Botrains  Find all comments by Botrains
SteveR wrote:
I am a CHRISTIAN
my duty is to be the persecuted, not the persecutor
That's not the point. As Christians we have a witness statement to make in a fallen depraved world.

When such obvious wickedness as transgender and homosexuality comes to the fore in society we are bound by the Lord to make a statement as to the churches position.

The churches positions and Biblical position is clearly to be against these sexual offences and iniquities. Even when they are unpopular.

Mohler writes;
"There is no third way. A church will either believe and teach that same-sex behaviours and relationships are sinful, or it will affirm them. Eventually, every congregation in America will make a public declaration of its position on this issue. It is just a matter of time (and for most churches, not much time) before every congregation in the nation faces this test," he writes in a blog post." (A.Mohler)

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News Item6/12/14 10:23 AM
Strat  Find all comments by Strat
John UK wrote:
Oh boy!
A real hall of famer isn't it,we are to approve of perversion so we can be persecuted in a society where only those who oppose perversion are persecuted....brilliant!!!
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News Item6/12/14 10:20 AM
penned  Find all comments by penned
because SteveR.... a church doesn't want to be forced by "discriminatory" law to hire a guy who thinks he feels like a girl today to take care of the nursery on sundays.

there is the issue of those with genetic issues, a true medical issue, but otherwise its...

CA that was telling kids they could pick their gender and boys could say they feel like a girl and girls would then lose their privacy in the bathroom and locker room.

this is the kind of abuse that gender boundaries protects against.... something all, that is all societies have.

the alternative is to take away society itself, which is really just a way to demoralize it.

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