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MONDAY, MAY 26, 2014  |  5 comments
Conservative United Methodists say divide over sexuality is ‘irreconcilable’

A group of 80 pastors is suggesting that the nation’s second-largest Protestant denomination is facing an imminent split because of an inability to resolve long-standing theological disputes about sexuality and church doctrine.

But more than lamenting the current divisions, the pastors indicated there is little reason to think reconciliation — or even peaceful coexistence — could be found. Like a couple heading to divorce court, the pastors cited “irreconcilable differences” that can’t be mended.

“We can no longer talk about schism as something that might happen in the future. Schism has already taken place in our connection,” said the Rev. Maxie Dunnam, a retired president of evangelical Asbury Theological Seminary in Kentucky, who joined the statement. ...

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CAS | Tampa  Find all comments by CAS
Good on you JL for separating from them when you had the's really sad that some wait so long that they would almost have to have been affected by the apostasy.

News Item5/26/14 2:54 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
tpost, you really should have looked at, United Methodists at the End of the Mainline, written in 1998:
William J. Abraham wrote:
It has long been agreed that United Methodism is a coalition of diverse conviction and opinion, having been formed under the banner of theological pluralism. Church leaders took the view in the 1970s that the core identity of United Methodism, if there was one at all, was located in commitment to the Methodist Quadrilateral (Scripture, tradition, reason, and experience), and that this not only permitted but in fact sanctioned and fostered doctrinal pluralism.
This little excerpt from the article should have pointed out that the Bible was usually a minor ingredient in Methodist theology before then. As a former Methodist I can tell you their deterioration started at least by the late 19th Century. Then they were obsessed with legalism, and hadn't seen The Inadequacy of Moralism. Harry Emerson Fosdick had a great influence on Methodist thinking.

News Item5/26/14 10:53 AM
tPost  Find all comments by tPost
"Can we not learn from the pain that other mainline denominations have experienced and find a way forward that honors (Methodism founder John) Wesley’s rule that we do no harm?”"

Looking for a compromise.

In other words some way to delete Bible verses to validate Sodom and Gomorrah.

A little leaven - leavens the whole lump eventually.

Law of God states -
Lev 20:13 "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."


News Item5/26/14 9:17 AM
Dolores | Texas  Find all comments by Dolores
I went to one for a few years and it was not the same church my grandparents attended. Very liberal in their beliefs. Preachers that preached against the virgin birth, explained away the miracles of the Bible. I wanted my children raised in a Bible believing on so I left. Not surprised at this at all.

News Item5/26/14 1:16 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
The split in the Methodist Church has been talked about for years, q.v., United Methodists at the End of the Mainline, but the numbers of conservative Methodists especially in the North might fill a couple of megachurches, but that's it. Millions of Methodists years ago left years ago, such as myself, to go to actual Christian Churches. What would a split now accomplish--nothing.
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