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THURSDAY, MAY 15, 2014  |  42 comments
Should Christian Colleges Let Female Faculty Teach Men the Bible?

"A college is not a church. It does not baptize, exercise church discipline, have elders and deacons, and so on. Biblical restrictions refer only to office (usually elders) rather than function, and that view simply can't be fairly transferred to a college or even a seminary." Craig Blomberg, New Testament professor, Denver Seminary

"I hope and expect our students to learn as much as I do from the lectures, publications, and personal ministry of female faculty members. The academy is not the church, and as a college we support the church best when we leave questions of doctrinal oversight to the authority of the local church." Philip Ryken, president, Wheaton College

"It comes down to your view of ecclesiology. I don't think you take an 18-year-old, crank him through a 4-year degree, and once he has a letter behind his name he's a church leader. I think that's a worldly way of looking at the ...


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News Item5/20/14 9:17 PM
SF from TX  Find all comments by SF from TX
Strat and Neil
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News Item5/19/14 10:28 PM
Strat  Find all comments by Strat
Neil wrote:
The fly in the ointment of modern churches, even conservative:
“Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.” – 1 Cor. 14:34-35
This is so inconvenient, Paul, what did you have to say that for? Your bit about head coverings is bad enough. Let's try some sophistry: Maybe this only forbids women jabbering in the pews, but not teaching. Or maybe it applies only to *married* women. Or maybe culture has changed & we're more enlightened now. And Sunday School & seminary lectures aren't the main worship service, so it's OK in these venues. And hey, Spurgeon had women Sunday School teachers, how dare we blame the Prince of Preachers!
There just has to be an excuse for our disregarding this, somewhere…
I can't think of any church around here where this would be welcomed,i love it when people say"find a good bible believing church" as if they are that common or widespread.
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News Item5/18/14 7:51 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
The fly in the ointment of modern churches, even conservative:

“Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.” – 1 Cor. 14:34-35

This is so inconvenient, Paul, what did you have to say that for? Your bit about head coverings is bad enough. Let's try some sophistry: Maybe this only forbids women jabbering in the pews, but not teaching. Or maybe it applies only to *married* women. Or maybe culture has changed & we're more enlightened now. And Sunday School & seminary lectures aren't the main worship service, so it's OK in these venues. And hey, Spurgeon had women Sunday School teachers, how dare we blame the Prince of Preachers!

There just has to be an excuse for our disregarding this, somewhere…

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News Item5/18/14 1:19 PM
Stevenr | Missouri  Find all comments by Stevenr
Sure. Things happen. Is like to consider those things, like widowhood, the exception and not the rule. Lol, that's what life insurance is for.
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News Item5/18/14 11:14 AM
Strat  Find all comments by Strat
Stevenr wrote:
Paul made that fairly clear in I Corinthians 7... It's a choice.... That's why I have opened my home to my kids as long as they are unmarried, and serving The Lord; in perpetuity if need be.
Well none of us are going to do anything in this life in perpetuity and after you and your wife are gone they will have to face life alone in a parental context.

I never knew either of my parents and have had to face life from the beginning in a way some don't have to face for decades until their parents die....it's something that must be faced.

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News Item5/18/14 10:31 AM
Stevenr | Missouri  Find all comments by Stevenr
Paul made that fairly clear in I Corinthians 7... It's a choice.... That's why I have opened my home to my kids as long as they are unmarried, and serving The Lord; in perpetuity if need be.
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News Item5/18/14 9:55 AM
Strat  Find all comments by Strat
Stevenr wrote:
I do apologize if I was unclear. Not making them leave is what was meant. See, that was easy.
No problem,do you believe marriage is a choice or command ?
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News Item5/18/14 9:52 AM
Stevenr | Missouri  Find all comments by Stevenr
I do apologize if I was unclear. Not making them leave is what was meant. See, that was easy.
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News Item5/18/14 9:49 AM
Strat  Find all comments by Strat
Stevenr wrote:
A) never said Mormon. Never even insinuated. B) never said goal was to keep kids "uneducated and unskilled" much less "keep them by force."
You made that up. Try not jay tempting to slander someone just because you disagree with them.
Read your own post "no marriage,no leaving" what does that imply ? again, since the concept escapes you,people only see what you write,people who teach marriage as a command instead of a choice are lying and deceiving people,people who are married have certain responsabilities to be sure and they are sinning when they fail to fulfill them,but an unmarried man or woman is under no obligation to act as if they were married,they are free to pursue what God has provided talents and abilities for.
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News Item5/18/14 8:42 AM
Stevenr | Missouri  Find all comments by Stevenr
*attempting.
Dumb iPhone.
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News Item5/18/14 8:40 AM
Stevenr | Missouri  Find all comments by Stevenr
A) never said Mormon. Never even insinuated. B) never said goal was to keep kids "uneducated and unskilled" much less "keep them by force."
You made that up. Try not jay tempting to slander someone just because you disagree with them.
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News Item5/18/14 8:27 AM
Strat  Find all comments by Strat
Stevenr wrote:
As I said; parents who want their children to grow up Godly will provide for them; not kick them to the curb at 18. If a young lady is living with her parents until marriage, she will not need a career or welfare.
This is what you wrote and what I responded to,sorry to stretch your logic and reason to the point of not expecting people to know or respond to information you did not provide.
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News Item5/17/14 10:28 PM
Stevenr | Missouri  Find all comments by Stevenr
Wow, you are awesome; almost like a superhero the way you make found less leaps to these inane conclusions. First, because I care for my children, I'm a Mormon... Now I'm a moron?
No, my children are neither uneducated or unskilled. What I said SPECIFICALLY was that they did not need a career or welfare to support themselves, because I believe they should be in the home until marriage. My oldest is a nurse; yes she went to school for that, my middle daughter works with children and plays music, (including playing for the Church) they all went to school and got good grades.
When I say a career is unnecessary, I mean that... Sure my oldest could choose to have a career with her education; but she specifically wanted the education as a nurse because she has an interest in missions; she has already spent time in another country helping out a missionary family, and plans to continue that work. (Medical missions is a great way to reach others)
Anything else to foundlessly accuse me of before this post closes?
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News Item5/17/14 5:53 PM
Strat  Find all comments by Strat
Stevenr wrote:
Oh good grief no... I told my girls they don't have to marry if they don't want to; my only stipulation was that they DO something... (i.e. Not sit on Facebook watching soap operas all day) They are welcome to stay at home right up to the point of marriage... No marriage, no leaving. Same with son, but he is required to have a paying job.
So you are fine with your daughters being uneducated with no skills and no way to support themselves should they need to,this to you is effective parenting ? if they wanted to leave I suppose you would use force to stop them ? did you at least allow your daughters to go to school to be able to read and write ?
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News Item5/17/14 4:35 PM
Stevenr | Missouri  Find all comments by Stevenr
Oh good grief no... I told my girls they don't have to marry if they don't want to; my only stipulation was that they DO something... (i.e. Not sit on Facebook watching soap operas all day) They are welcome to stay at home right up to the point of marriage... No marriage, no leaving. Same with son, but he is required to have a paying job.
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News Item5/17/14 4:03 PM
Strat  Find all comments by Strat
Stevenr wrote:
As I said; parents who want their children to grow up Godly will provide for them; not kick them to the curb at 18. If a young lady is living with her parents until marriage, she will not need a career or welfare.
Are you a Mormon,they teach marriage as a command and not a choice and if you are 18+ and not married they begin to put pressure on you
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News Item5/16/14 11:50 AM
MS  Find all comments by MS
Dan Roller wrote:
We are living in the last days folks!!!
2 Timothy 3:2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy.
The hearts of most american families has grown hard! They have becomes lovers of self. Women no longer having the first love for their husbands and children but for themselves, independence, and for material gain. All the while dressing in the lascivious seductive ways like the strange women described in probverbs (hence lovers of self.) This even effects our christian women.
Probverbs 7:11 (She [is] loud and stubborn; her feet abide not in her house:
Loud, stubborn, and opinionated, wanting to be noticed, and heard. Investing emotions and energy into other men in the work place not their husbands and children.
The spirit of Jezebel is running rampant in society and the church. Remember the story of Naboth's Vineyard in 1 Kings? Jezebel wants to be in charge!!
http://webpreach.com
http://mrsmodestyfashions.com
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News Item5/16/14 11:39 AM
Dan Roller | Charlotte, North Carolina  Protected NameContact via emailFind all comments by Dan Roller
We are living in the last days folks!!!

2 Timothy 3:2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy.

The hearts of most american families has grown hard! They have becomes lovers of self. Women no longer having the first love for their husbands and children but for themselves, independence, and for material gain. All the while dressing in the lascivious seductive ways like the strange women described in probverbs (hence lovers of self.) This even effects our christian women.

Probverbs 7:11 (She [is] loud and stubborn; her feet abide not in her house:
Loud, stubborn, and opinionated, wanting to be noticed, and heard. Investing emotions and energy into other men in the work place not their husbands and children.

The spirit of Jezebel is running rampant in society and the church. Remember the story of Naboth's Vineyard in 1 Kings? Jezebel wants to be in charge!!

http://webpreach.com
http://mrsmodestyfashions.com

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News Item5/16/14 6:59 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Men have become women...many by choice, and many as the result of parental wimpification. There used to be a clear line between male and female, but I'm finding it more and more difficult to identify and seperate the two. Men speaking in forced higher octave voices to sound feminine, dressing in skinny jeans and bright colored short shorts, women taking on the hairstyles of men and dresing the part in baggy jeans and flannel shirts or rolled up sleeves with a cigarette pack tucked in to identify who's playing the male role in the relationship, females toting rifles and ordering men in the military and male prisons, women demanding to do everything the men do, etc, etc, while the men cower back in sissy mode and let it all happen. There is no more battle of the sexes because the women have become men, and the men are happy stepping back into the shadows to let them take charge as they become more and more feminized.
Sorry, nothing against women...I love women, but the roles have become blurred.
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News Item5/16/14 4:27 AM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
GSTexas wrote:
John Y,
Why are you using the exception to prove the rule? Im not speaking of extreme cases, like a single mom, or the wife of an invalid, but of married women.
Well of course married women should not have a job outside of the house except in an extreme situation.
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