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FRIDAY, MAY 9, 2014  |  31 comments
Decline of religion in the West has created a rise in black magic, Satanism and the occult
The decline of religious belief in the West and the growth of secularism has “opened the window” to black magic, Satanism and belief in the occult, the organisers of a conference on exorcism have said.

The six-day meeting in Rome aims to train about 200 Roman Catholic priests from more than 30 countries in how to cast out evil from people who believe themselves to be in thrall to the Devil.

The conference, “Exorcism and Prayers of Liberation”, has also attracted psychiatrists, sociologists, doctors and criminologists in what the Church called a “multi-disciplinary” approach to exorcisms. ...


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News Item5/19/14 4:46 AM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Unprofitable Servant wrote:
Thanks for your response. Personally I would say you will ONLY be believable when you give it up. But the discussion had change not to what you say you believe but to what would your priest say. Your priest would have NO reason to believe that you don't practice RCC salvation, because he can ONLY see your actions.
Again from other post if your priest discovered what you say are your beliefs and said you either had to recant and repent from such views or face excommunication, which would you choose? And don't say it would never happen, it is not a question about probability, just answer the question if you would please, which would you choose, thanks.
That scenario can't happen at all because the priest doesn't have the authority to excommunicate anybody as per Catholic teaching. But if it were possible for the priest to excommunicate individuals then I would refuse to communicate with the priest.
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News Item5/17/14 3:28 PM
s c | Oh  Find all comments by s c
I think that I figured out part of John Yurich's difficulty. Since he is so tied to Graham, therein may lie the issue. Graham speaks out of both sides of his mouth too. He is a "famous" evangelical who can give a sound invitation but then turns around and hands over most of the "seemingly" new converts to the rc church. Considering that graham's shows are for the most part subsidized by the rc church and that graham believes that the rc church and the true church share the same beliefs, it would follow that there could very well be many professing christians who follow suit. John is either confused or manipulative as he seems to stay pretty much the center of focus here.
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News Item5/17/14 3:02 PM
Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
John Yurich USA wrote:
...
Unprofitable Servant: Just because I receive the bread and the cup of wine during Mass doesn't mean I believe in the sacramental view of salvation. I don't say Amen when I am handed the bread and the cup of wine to avoid recognition of the Catholic doctrine of Holy Communion. And if I never go to Individual Confession then that is another example that I don't believe in the sacramental view of salvation.
Thanks for your response. Personally I would say you will ONLY be believable when you give it up. But the discussion had change not to what you say you believe but to what would your priest say. Your priest would have NO reason to believe that you don't practice RCC salvation, because he can ONLY see your actions.

Again from other post if your priest discovered what you say are your beliefs and said you either had to recant and repent from such views or face excommunication, which would you choose? And don't say it would never happen, it is not a question about probability, just answer the question if you would please, which would you choose, thanks.

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News Item5/17/14 12:31 PM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
GSTexas wrote:
John Y,
Allowing your kids to believe a false gospel is certainly a grave matter, and serious offense. Whats the difference between murderind a baby in the womb, and raising a kid catholic who will go to hell for believing the catholic lie of works righteousness? As the spiritual head, it is the responsibilty of the father to teach his kids biblical truth, and protect his kids from false teachers and doctrines.
I didn't state that when I get married and have children that I would not teach the children the Evangelical Protestant doctrine of salvation. The children will learn the Evangelical Protestant doctrine of salvation the same way I did by watching Billy Graham Crusades on television.

Unprofitable Servant: Just because I receive the bread and the cup of wine during Mass doesn't mean I believe in the sacramental view of salvation. I don't say Amen when I am handed the bread and the cup of wine to avoid recognition of the Catholic doctrine of Holy Communion. And if I never go to Individual Confession then that is another example that I don't believe in the sacramental view of salvation.

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News Item5/17/14 10:45 AM
Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
John Yurich USA wrote:
I don't believe you guys are wrong. But the Bible is crystal clear that the only requirement for salvation and entering Heaven is to become Born Again. And according to Baptist teaching which comes from the Bible being Born Again means to embrace Jesus as ones Savior and trust in Him alone for salvation without anything else including church attendance in any church and that includes an Evangelical Protestant Church.
Unprofitable Servant: I will respond to your post later.
GSTexas: I will respond to your post later.
Thanks for taking the time to answer
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News Item5/15/14 5:00 AM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Christopher000 wrote:
Hi John, I have a pretty simple question: I know that you lean a lot on your brother and Luther, but do you ever consider all that people have said over the years? Do you really stop to think about all that is said or do you figure everyone is always wrong and never give any thought to any of it? Just curious.
I don't believe you guys are wrong. But the Bible is crystal clear that the only requirement for salvation and entering Heaven is to become Born Again. And according to Baptist teaching which comes from the Bible being Born Again means to embrace Jesus as ones Savior and trust in Him alone for salvation without anything else including church attendance in any church and that includes an Evangelical Protestant Church.

Unprofitable Servant: I will respond to your post later.

GSTexas: I will respond to your post later.

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News Item5/14/14 11:25 AM
GSTexas  Find all comments by GSTexas
John Y,

Allowing your kids to believe a false gospel is certainly a grave matter, and serious offense. Whats the difference between murderind a baby in the womb, and raising a kid catholic who will go to hell for believing the catholic lie of works righteousness? As the spiritual head, it is the responsibilty of the father to teach his kids biblical truth, and protect his kids from false teachers and doctrines.

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News Item5/14/14 8:15 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Hi John, I have a pretty simple question: I know that you lean a lot on your brother and Luther, but do you ever consider all that people have said over the years? Do you really stop to think about all that is said or do you figure everyone is always wrong and never give any thought to any of it? Just curious.
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News Item5/14/14 6:22 AM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Protected NameFind all comments by Michael Hranek
Unprofitable Servant wrote:
Agree with GS, here is to praying that you never get married to bring children into this world.
Unprofitable Servant
This discussion IMHO relates to REVIVAL and Church growth

I have to think it is something to consider there are churches where God does not want to bring those newly born again of His Spirit
Churches in such disobedient apathetic unrepentant unbelief that He is unwilling to bless with a real move of the Holy Spirit

Making me pause and consider what kind of Church would God desire to bless with REVIVAL and new converts, real Church growth?

Prehaps we ought to pray and seek God in this matter until we are that kind of people, so that we might see people we love and care about saved, genuinely born again of the Spirit

the that kind of people being along the lines of what Paris Reidhead touches on in:

Come and He Will Set You Free
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxBtF-U0DJ4

IMHO the Free Presbyterians in Ireland were that kind of people (passionate for Jesus Christ, His word, Prayer, Holiness, the Power of the Spirit, and the salvation of the lost) in their early days

People who had a similar hunger for God like the believers on the Isle of Lewis had when God brought REVIVAL there.

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News Item5/14/14 5:47 AM
Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
John Yurich USA wrote:
My priest would not say ...
No John, you are wrong. While your priest may not be cognizant of your "beliefs" he is very cognizant of your behavior. He and anybody at the RCC you attend who know you would say based upon YOUR behavior that they can SEE, that you BELIEVE IN AND PRACTICE the RCC sacramental view of salvation. Man can ONLY look on the outward appearance, and by all outward appearances, and I would say by your own choices and words in this forum, you are a practicing Roman Catholic whose hope in following the RCC religion your ACTIONS say no different than my assertion no matter how much your mind is deceived into believing that your reality is not that. Now you also confess you wish to bring children into this world and lead them on a path to hell, May God be merciful to not allow such tragedy to happen.

You seem to have no comprehension of those in this forum who sigh, weep, and pray for loved ones trapped in Catholicism, who see them on that broad road to destruction and it grieves their heart constantly. You and SteveR just add to their burden but you don't seem to care. May God be gracious and grant salvation to their loved ones and you two also.

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News Item5/14/14 4:51 AM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
GSTexas wrote:
Christopher, When I get married and have children they will be raised to believe in every Catholic doctrine, they will be raised to pray the entire Hail Mary Prayer, they will go to Individual Confession. I will not tell them that there are some unscriptural Catholic doctrines.
Matthew 18:6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.
The verse in Saint Matthew 18:6 pertains to abortion and child abuse. It does not pertain to raising children Catholic because raising children Catholic is not child abuse.

Unprofitable Servant:I need to get married and have children so that my brother has nieces and nephews and so that I can eventually have Grandchildren.

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News Item5/13/14 5:08 PM
Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
John Yurich USA wrote:
Christopher, When I get married and have children they will be raised to believe in every Catholic doctrine, they will be raised to pray the entire Hail Mary Prayer, they will go to Individual Confession. I will not tell them that there are some unscriptural Catholic doctrines. The children will however watch old Billy Graham Crusades on television to learn the way of salvation just like I did when I was growing up. And if they embrace Jesus as their Savior then they will continue to attend the Catholic Church.
Agree with GS, here is to praying that you never get married to bring children into this world.
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News Item5/13/14 12:27 PM
GSTexas  Find all comments by GSTexas
Christopher, When I get married and have children they will be raised to believe in every Catholic doctrine, they will be raised to pray the entire Hail Mary Prayer, they will go to Individual Confession. I will not tell them that there are some unscriptural Catholic doctrines.

Matthew 18:6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.

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News Item5/13/14 10:12 AM
MS  Find all comments by MS
Hey Chris...he's an RC troll..best to leave it alone and not encourage his rants. Only God can change his heart.
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News Item5/13/14 10:06 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Oh John. Instead of relying upon human understanding or mirroring personal upbringing, please let God's Word and prayer be your guide.
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News Item5/13/14 8:25 AM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Christopher, When I get married and have children they will be raised to believe in every Catholic doctrine, they will be raised to pray the entire Hail Mary Prayer, they will go to Individual Confession. I will not tell them that there are some unscriptural Catholic doctrines. The children will however watch old Billy Graham Crusades on television to learn the way of salvation just like I did when I was growing up. And if they embrace Jesus as their Savior then they will continue to attend the Catholic Church.
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News Item5/13/14 7:36 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
John, you're basing your answers on the secret life you lead within the church. You call yourself a Roman Catholic, attend a Roman Catholic church, and if asked by a priest, would answer,"I'm Roman Catholic", so the priest would definately say you believe in the sacramental method. Knowing all you do, having to make a conscious effort to avoid all you do, keeping the secrets you do, and telling others that salvation comes only by embracing Christ and claiming to be Roman Catholic all at the same time is interesting. When you raise your children within the system, how in the world will you thwart the confusion of what they should and shouldn't do, what they should and shouldn't listen to, and whatever they should and shouldn't believe? Everything is so intertwined that I'm not sure how you would accomplish this without them being forever dazed and confused; not knowing which way is up, etc. Calling myself a Roman Catholic but disagreeing with the tenants of their belief system is no different than referring to myself as a member of any other religion, but not believing in what they teach. I'm proud to call myself a born again Christian, would shout it from the mountain tops, and would never dream of hiding what I believe the Word of God teaches. I consider it everyones busi
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News Item5/13/14 4:47 AM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Unprofitable Servant wrote:
What would your priest say if I asked him if you followed the sacramental method of salvation? He would certainly affirm that you do. Your actions speak volumes, your words are vacuous.
My priest would not say that I follow the sacramental method of salvation because he doesn't know anything about my beliefs. Receiving the bread and the cup of wine doesn't mean I follow the sacramental method of salvation. I don't believe that Baptism imparts salvation and I don't believe that the sacraments have anthing to do with salvation. Therefore I am not following the sacramental method of salvation.
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News Item5/12/14 11:21 AM
Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
John Yurich USA wrote:
I don't follow the sacramental method of salvation as I don't trust in the Sacraments for salvation. I trust in Jesus alone for salvation.
What would your priest say if I asked him if you followed the sacramental method of salvation? He would certainly affirm that you do. Your actions speak volumes, your words are vacuous.
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News Item5/11/14 5:18 PM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Unprofitable Servant wrote:
Acts 26:20b ...that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.
By your OWN testimony NO ONE watching you as you continue to follow the sacramental method of salvation unabated would have any clue that you are any different after your "conversion" than before. Your testimony of change is one that you have in your head not one that manifest itself in your heart. The Bible states as a man thinks in his heart so is he. In other words your outward actions are a manifestation of your inward reality. You have shown nothing to testify that God has saved you in any of your actions. Your actions show that practicing Catholicism is the only sure way to heaven. Your priest would agree with that statement about you. You are not the son that said I will not go and then afterward went, you are the one who said I will go and went not. Our Lord pointed out it was the son whose actions DEMONSTRATED his repentance, that did his father's will. You can make all the excuses you want but your actions tell us that no work of regeneration has been done in your heart.
I don't follow the sacramental method of salvation as I don't trust in the Sacraments for salvation. I trust in Jesus alone for salvation.
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