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FRONT PAGE  |  9/30/2016
FRIDAY, APR 18, 2014  |  18 comments  |  1 commentary
Clemson football accused of pushing Christianity

The leader of an organization that monitors separation of church and state said Tuesday that Clemson University head football coach Dabo Swinney and his staff have leavened their athletic program with so much Christian indoctrination that the administration needs to step in and say ‚Äúhands off the consciences of these kids.‚ÄĚ

But Clemson University said Tuesday it supports Swinney and his program and has found no improprieties.

The Freedom From Religion Foundation has sent a letter of complaint to Clemson University, urging the Upstate school to cease the athletics department’s emphasis on prayers, Bible studies and other religious activities, including busing players to local churches for Sunday services. ...


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Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Thanks Shane...that's pretty much what I figured. Lurker, I haven't forgotten about you...you are on my mind every day, actually. I have some energy first thing in the AM but it tanks pretty quickly so setting my mind to anything is tough. I'll get back to you soon because I do want to relate that experience.
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News Item4/18/14 5:44 PM
Scott | Pittsburgh  Find all comments by Scott
I read this news outlet daily. I lean toward a Soverign Grace standpoint...I don't classify it as "Calvanist" because those labels are confusing and distracting. Either way though, anybody who names the name of Christ as their God, shouldn't carry on in such a manner that Love between believers is lost. Besides, when you get down to it, both views on Soverignty do a poor job of explaining where man's volition and God's Soverignty meet; even touch, but never violate each other. I think we need to temper our argument.
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News Item4/18/14 3:30 PM
Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
IkeMike wrote:
Sorry, what I mean is, it doesn't state that only a few select will be given to the father and raised up at the last days. It merely says "all that the father gives me" (paraphrase). It doesn't state how many, or what the limit is to who the Father gives.
Hey IkeMike,

Kinda with Lurker here, not trying to be in any way disrespectful, and your point is? You surely don't believe in universal salvation that everybody is saved. So, if not everyone is saved then there of necessity is a limit.

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News Item4/18/14 2:50 PM
Shane | socal  Find all comments by Shane
Why does Calvin keep following us around in every thread?

Christopher... Frank is doing well last time I spoke with him. There are issues with certain things here that has made him want to take a break.

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News Item4/18/14 1:31 PM
IkeMike | Iowa, USA  Find all comments by IkeMike
Sorry, what I mean is, it doesn't state that only a few select will be given to the father and raised up at the last days. It merely says "all that the father gives me" (paraphrase). It doesn't state how many, or what the limit is to who the Father gives.
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News Item4/18/14 1:21 PM
Lurker  Protected NameFind all comments by Lurker
IkeMike wrote:
Ok, but it doesn't say who or how many will be raised to life, nor how many God gave the Son. Or if there's a limit to how many.
All that is covered here, known only to the Father and the Son until the last day.....

Rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Now sure what your point is. Perhaps you could expound.

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News Item4/18/14 12:57 PM
IkeMike | Iowa, USA  Find all comments by IkeMike
Ok, but it doesn't say who or how many will be raised to life, nor how many God gave the Son. Or if there's a limit to how many.
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News Item4/18/14 12:22 PM
Lurker  Protected NameFind all comments by Lurker
IkeMike wrote:
Mik help,
It never states anywhere in those verses you spouted off WHO the father gave to Jesus, nor how many.
Sure they do; all who will be raised to eternal life on the last day.

An assurance founded on anything other (i.e. your decision) than what Jesus did for all the Father gave Him.... its a false assurance.

Beloved, if our heart condemn us not, then have we confidence toward God. And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight. And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us. (1 John 3:21-24)

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News Item4/18/14 11:35 AM
Dorcas | USA  Find all comments by Dorcas
ladybug wrote:
God forbid we make a idol out of John Calvin and accredit him with the clear teachings found in holy writ that can only be attributed to the one true and living Jehovah. I cringe when I see anyone say 'I'm a Calvinist'! Many have aligned themselves with a mortal man and claim to follow his 'teachings'; is that what the Bible calls us to do? Let us always remember these words from our Lord, "Follow Me!"
and all of Gods children say AMEN!
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News Item4/18/14 11:34 AM
IkeMike | Iowa, USA  Find all comments by IkeMike
Mik help,
It never states anywhere in those verses you spouted off WHO the father gave to Jesus, nor how many.
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News Item4/18/14 11:27 AM
ladybug  Find all comments by ladybug
God forbid we make a idol out of John Calvin and accredit him with the clear teachings found in holy writ that can only be attributed to the one true and living Jehovah. I cringe when I see anyone say 'I'm a Calvinist'! Many have aligned themselves with a mortal man and claim to follow his 'teachings'; is that what the Bible calls us to do? Let us always remember these words from our Lord, "Follow Me!"
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News Item4/18/14 10:57 AM
mikhelp  Find all comments by mikhelp
Mike wrote:
Don't forget to include the 5-point flower children, who seem to think whatever Satan's followers do must have been God's will for their pottery-based lives anyway.
Don't forget to buy your copy of the Institutes this will help you receive a clearer message, Mike.

Some edifying reading for you;
Quote
Was Jesus a Calvinist.
"On several occasions in John's Gospel divine election is described in terms of God the Father giving certain persons to God the Son (6:37, 39; 10:29; 17:1-2,6,9,24). In each of these cases the giving of men to Christ precedes and is the cause of their receiving eternal life. Those who are given to the Son include not only the present company of disciples who believe in Jesus but also the elect of future ages who will come to faith through the gospel."
http://www.samstorms.com/all-articles/post/was-jesus-a-calvinist

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News Item4/18/14 10:28 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Sharls wrote:
We seem to see a growing satanic attack on all things Christian in these days. Satan's followers are becoming more and more active in this area as time goes on in these modern times. What with churches and denominations full of Liberals and Arminians not to mention the greater acceptance of the Roman catholic fallacy today in parts of the nations, these point to an end times scenario.
Don't forget to include the 5-point flower children, who seem to think whatever Satan's followers do must have been God's will for their pottery-based lives anyway.
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News Item4/18/14 10:22 AM
Sharls  Find all comments by Sharls
We seem to see a growing satanic attack on all things Christian in these days. Satan's followers are becoming more and more active in this area as time goes on in these modern times. What with churches and denominations full of Liberals and Arminians not to mention the greater acceptance of the Roman catholic fallacy today in parts of the nations, these point to an end times scenario.
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News Item4/18/14 8:21 AM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Christopher000 wrote:
Newflash: Clemson University's Muslim, Mormon, Jehovah's witness, Episcopalian, Wiccan, scientologist, football coach and staff have been emphasizing prayer, studies from their holy book, and other religious activities. They even bus players to their local religious meeting place as well.
Response from the Freedom from religion foundation and the general public:
You should not have included the Episcopalians in that list as the Episcopal Church has the Bible as their holy book. How come the Freedom from Religion Foundation doesn't complain about the Muslims and the other Non Christians on the Clemson University football team pushing their respective religions at Clemson University?
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News Item4/18/14 8:01 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Lurker, Frank, Observer, Mourner, Mr B and others who have been quiet...hope you're all doing ok.
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News Item4/18/14 7:11 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Newflash: Clemson University's Muslim, Mormon, Jehovah's witness, Episcopalian, Wiccan, scientologist, football coach and staff have been emphasizing prayer, studies from their holy book, and other religious activities. They even bus players to their local religious meeting place as well.

Response from the Freedom from religion foundation and the general public:

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News Item4/18/14 4:21 AM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Who cares that atheists are against Clemson University Football pushing Christianity? Atheists are mentally deranged and psychotic anyway for trying to push their insanity on the public.
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