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SATURDAY, APR 5, 2014  |  26 comments
Congressman: Members of Congress are underpaid

A retiring Democratic congressman from Virginia says federal lawmakers don’t make enough money to get by in both Washington and back home.

“I think the American people should know that the members of Congress are underpaid,” Rep. James P. Moran told CQ Roll Call.

“I understand that it’s widely felt that they underperform, but the fact is that this is the board of directors for the largest economic entity in the world.”

Mr. Moran told the publication that some lawmakers live out of their offices while in the nation’s capital, or in “small little apartment units” that make it hard to spend time with their families. ...


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R. K. Borill | Baton Rouge, Louisiana  Protected NameFind all comments by R. K. Borill
Check the stats. At the time of the civil war, only 6% of the South owned slaves and only 2% owned more than one or two. Not that I am endorsing slavery, but the issue of the Civil War was not slavery. Even Lincoln didn't make it an issue until 2-3 yrs. into the war.
He didn't sign the Emancipation Proclamation until 1863, and the War began in 1861. The issue was that the Federal Government had become a machine for big business and special interests at the expense of the states. What we are facing today is the fallout of the results of the war. Robert E. Lee was smart enough to see that the real issues of the war would be hidden. That's why he freed his salves before the war began. It's sad he couldn't convince all his colleagues to do the same.
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News Item4/8/14 8:06 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
SteveR, many of us already know, this is The Worst Congress Money Can Buy I would point out to you that slavery what is no longer common in the New England and mid-atlantic states in the late colonial.period. none of my ancestors owned slaves. they were also on right side of the civil warfor getting rid of it.
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News Item4/6/14 2:21 PM
SteveR | Mt Zion  Find all comments by SteveR
avidreader wrote:
2nd rate!?! America was a growing country with people that knew the value of hardwork! It is a well known fact that greed only leads to more greed...these people think only of themselves and the rich that support their greed...like they tell the poor and working class, learn how to live within your means.
2nd rate as a world power

At the time we were a decentralized agrarian society with a weak central government. I dont find it surprising that a Congressman could be a part time profession. However today, being the worlds only superpower with a strong central governement, its clear we need FT representatives.

btw: When you say 'hard work,' you must mean allowing slaves to do the hard work also. When you say greed, you must include those founders who enslaved other men for gain.

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News Item4/6/14 10:25 AM
avidreader | TN  Find all comments by avidreader
2nd rate!?! America was a growing country with people that knew the value of hardwork! It is a well known fact that greed only leads to more greed...these people think only of themselves and the rich that support their greed...like they tell the poor and working class, learn how to live within your means.
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News Item4/6/14 9:18 AM
Duh  Find all comments by Duh
SteveR wrote:
Unlike you, Politicians dont give away their wickedness for free
You don't have an answer so you reply with rudeness? What a man!

And BTW, in your comment you've just conceded the point!

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News Item4/6/14 9:13 AM
SteveR | Mt Zion  Find all comments by SteveR
Duh wrote:
Man needs justification for his corruption?! If paying a fantastic salary makes one a hard worker then the very richest in the world must be the most conscientious and hard working?
What planet do you live on?
Unlike you, Politicians dont give away their wickedness for free
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News Item4/6/14 9:05 AM
Duh  Find all comments by Duh
SteveR wrote:
I dont feel the low wage will lead to corruption, but rather has led to corruption. If this continues, we will become more of a banana republic each term. Man is a fallen creature and will seek personal gain, the low wage gives him that justification. Our Reps are accountable to us at the voting booth, yet they actually represent a handful of special interests. Why? Because the voting public doesnt care as long as they get what they want. If they actually represented the people, we wouldnt have a 17 trillion dollar debt.
Unless we can get voter participation to New Zealand type levels, we must consider a change in compensation. A change where the politician relies on the public for ALL his compensation, rather than the current supplements from special interests
Man needs justification for his corruption?! If paying a fantastic salary makes one a hard worker then the very richest in the world must be the most conscientious and hard working?

What planet do you live on?

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News Item4/6/14 8:58 AM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
Mike wrote:
You implied that an "unfair" wage may lead to corruption. I'm not sure there is good reason however, to suspect it is a greater temptation for a fed rep to go corrupt due to wages paid, than for a state rep to do so. Unless you're saying being in Washington is intrinsically more corrupting, than say, Albany, and we can pay them enough to purchase their honesty.
I dont feel the low wage will lead to corruption, but rather has led to corruption. If this continues, we will become more of a banana republic each term. Man is a fallen creature and will seek personal gain, the low wage gives him that justification. Our Reps are accountable to us at the voting booth, yet they actually represent a handful of special interests. Why? Because the voting public doesnt care as long as they get what they want. If they actually represented the people, we wouldnt have a 17 trillion dollar debt.
Unless we can get voter participation to New Zealand type levels, we must consider a change in compensation. A change where the politician relies on the public for ALL his compensation, rather than the current supplements from special interests
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News Item4/5/14 10:46 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
SteveR wrote:
Apples and Oranges, or at least Granny Smiths and Fujis
The article discusses FEDERAL lawmakers, not State. Value of a State Lawmakers should & will vary
You implied that an "unfair" wage may lead to corruption. I'm not sure there is good reason however, to suspect it is a greater temptation for a fed rep to go corrupt due to wages paid, than for a state rep to do so. Unless you're saying being in Washington is intrinsically more corrupting, than say, Albany, and we can pay them enough to purchase their honesty.
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News Item4/5/14 7:20 PM
R. K. Borill | Baton Rouge, Louisiana  Protected NameFind all comments by R. K. Borill
The price for selling Americans out is going up.
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News Item4/5/14 2:46 PM
B,Obama  Find all comments by B,Obama
“I think the American people should know that the members of Congress are underpaid,” Rep. James P. Moran told CQ Roll Call"

Americans totally agree with this statement. That is why America votes Democrat.
And why Jim Lincoln votes Independent.

The peasants need to dig deeper and fork out more taxes to pay for these wonderful men and women in politics.

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News Item4/5/14 12:53 PM
SteveR | Mt Zion  Find all comments by SteveR
GSTexas wrote:
Steve,
I see the point you are making. They should be paid a salary that is an incentive for the best and brightest to seek such a position of great responsibility. At the same time, they shouldnt be paid so much the wealth and power goes to their head. Since $174,000 is heads and tails above the average American, I am inclined to think they are making quite enough. I admit I could be wrong, so perhaps you are right.
imo GS

Our reps are so interested in awarding big contracts to their financial contributors(lobbyists), the taxpayer or their salary doesnt play a significant role in choosing the profession for most. Those that are qualified for these difficult jobs and want to be honest will probably pursue other paths with the current low salary

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News Item4/5/14 12:26 PM
GSTexas  Find all comments by GSTexas
Steve,

I see the point you are making. They should be paid a salary that is an incentive for the best and brightest to seek such a position of great responsibility. At the same time, they shouldnt be paid so much the wealth and power goes to their head. Since $174,000 is heads and tails above the average American, I am inclined to think they are making quite enough. I admit I could be wrong, so perhaps you are right.

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News Item4/5/14 11:51 AM
SteveR | Mt Zion  Find all comments by SteveR
GSTexas wrote:
Steve,
How is making $174,000 a year equal underpaid? What they make has nothing to do with their corruption, its their thirst for control and power. Considering almost none of them really uphold the constitution or represent the American people, they arent even worth a dollar a year.
If we are going to attract the best and brighest for these important positions, we have to pay a salary that reflects the responsibilities. Trusting men & women with the authority over trillions in expenditures and American lives then nickel and diming them on their market value is the 3rd world path to an unqualified or corrupt government.

I would suggest their market value is in excess of $250k

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News Item4/5/14 11:37 AM
GSTexas  Find all comments by GSTexas
Steve,

How is making $174,000 a year equal underpaid? What they make has nothing to do with their corruption, its their thirst for control and power. Considering almost none of them really uphold the constitution or represent the American people, they arent even worth a dollar a year.

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News Item4/5/14 10:51 AM
John for JESUS | ATL  Find all comments by John for JESUS
So says the rich guy.
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News Item4/5/14 9:51 AM
Democrats are their | own worst enemy  Find all comments by Democrats are their
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/stephanie-slade/2013/06/24/washington-dcs-height-restrictions-make-rent-more-expensive
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News Item4/5/14 9:03 AM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
avidreader wrote:
American leadership first began with people who had regular jobs and and were not career politicians. I say clear the whole lot of the rich career politicians and elect some people with regular jobs who understand besides a trip to Washington, food and shelter they will not be paid.
In 1800 we were a 2nd rate country of only 5 million people
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News Item4/5/14 9:00 AM
avidreader | TN  Find all comments by avidreader
American leadership first began with people who had regular jobs and and were not career politicians. I say clear the whole lot of the rich career politicians and elect some people with regular jobs who understand besides a trip to Washington, food and shelter they will not be paid.
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News Item4/5/14 8:55 AM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
Mike wrote:
In that case my state should be among the least corrupt, with legislators paid $79,500 per year, and $171 per diem. And New Hampshire legislators should be the most corrupt, being paid $100/year, and no per diem. Yet quite the opposite in corruption level.
Apples and Oranges, or at least Granny Smiths and Fujis

The article discusses FEDERAL lawmakers, not State. Value of a State Lawmakers should & will vary

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