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FRONT PAGE  |  8/3/2015
WEDNESDAY, MAR 19, 2014  |  28 comments  |  1 commentary
Baptism...the Duck Commander Way?
A New Jersey man drove at least 20 hours earlier this month to see “Duck Dynasty” patriarch Phil Robertson, arguably one of television’s most popular reality stars. But that’s not the story. The story is why he made the lengthy journey: to have the Robertson family member baptize him.

Brian Richards made the long trek from his home to White’s Ferry Road Church of Christ in West Monroe, La., where Robertson introduced him to the church on March 2, before publicly baptizing him.

“From New Jersey, I can count on one hand the people I met from New Jersey,” Robertson quipped, before telling the congregation about Richards’ long journey to the house of worship. ...


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News Item3/21/14 11:41 PM
R. K. Borill | Baton Rouge, Louisiana  Protected NameFind all comments by R. K. Borill
Unprofitable servant,

I don't know about you and observer, but I can clearly see the manifestations of the multitude of heresies spouted by self incriminating vain talkers, and deceivers. It's also really quite educational to learn the various fallacious arguments and tactics they employ. They fail to see the service they provide.

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News Item3/21/14 11:12 PM
Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
R. K. Borill wrote:
Unprofitable servant,
You're welcome. Btw,
if this site is over run with false doctrine which you say, you should be thankful because:
1 Corinthians 11:19 KJV
[19] For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.
Heresies serve a purpose.
Thanks for the insightful statement
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News Item3/21/14 11:04 PM
R. K. Borill | Baton Rouge, Louisiana  Protected NameFind all comments by R. K. Borill
Unprofitable servant,
You're welcome. Btw,
if this site is over run with false doctrine which you say, you should be thankful because:

1 Corinthians 11:19 KJV
[19] For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.

Heresies serve a purpose.

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News Item3/21/14 10:58 PM
Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
R. K. Borill wrote:
Unprofitable servant writes:
I am sure I will get more quotes from commentaries and confessions. blather on.
R. K. Borill responds,
Why should it bother you? You and observer enjoy studying things from the little bit of light that comes through the cracks in your roofs.
Thanks for the kind response.
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News Item3/21/14 10:52 PM
R. K. Borill | Baton Rouge, Louisiana  Protected NameFind all comments by R. K. Borill
Unprofitable servant writes:

I am sure I will get more quotes from commentaries and confessions. blather on.

R. K. Borill responds,
Why should it bother you? You and observer enjoy studying things from the little bit of light that comes through the cracks in your roofs.

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News Item3/21/14 10:29 PM
Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
oikos wrote:
Lydia and her "household" were baptised. Household in Greek is oikos.
...
The only way to look at those verses and assume they refer to infants is to bring that ASSUMPTION to the reading BEFORE you read it. AGAIN, you Presbies MAKE UP INTERPRETATION to say that the households contained INFANTS, I can by the same authority you claim there are infants and say with certainty that everyone was in their mid teens and above. Some of the verses he mentioned didn't even have the greek work oikos in the verse! No verse referenced, because they don't exist, say that baptism is the seal of the covenant of grace. This is why you get accused of twisting Scripture because you make it say things that just aren't there. Instead of lining yourselves up with the Bible you try and make the Bible line up with your incorrect beliefs. You change history, you deny what even your founders acknowledge, you change even the current meaning of greek words to give children a false hope, and try to dictate to God whom He must save on a false premise. It is sad to see this forum overrun with false doctrine. But I am sure I will get more quotes from commentaries and confessions. blather on

btw the way infants does appear 3x but in no text cited yet

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News Item3/21/14 9:56 PM
R. K. Borill | Baton Rouge, Louisiana  Protected NameFind all comments by R. K. Borill
Good teaching oikos. Don't worry your comments like this are not wasted. Not everyone reading these comments are blasphemers.

Titus 1:10 KJV
[10] For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision:

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News Item3/21/14 9:33 PM
R. K. Borill | Baton Rouge, Louisiana  Protected NameFind all comments by R. K. Borill
Observer wrote:

Thanks for the smartalec response. When you get enough respect for God's word and are determined to stop twisting it to your own ends, then be sure to come back for a grown up discussion.

"Said the pot to the kettle."

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News Item3/21/14 2:59 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Ha! wrote:
Well it ain't for wee bairns that's for sure
Ha!
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News Item3/21/14 2:31 PM
Ha!  Find all comments by Ha!
Well it ain't for wee bairns that's for sure
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News Item3/21/14 2:28 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Ha! wrote:
Oikos is my favorite yougart yum!
Is that the family yougart or the over 60's yougart?
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News Item3/21/14 2:26 PM
Ha!  Find all comments by Ha!
Oikos is my favorite yougart yum!
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News Item3/21/14 2:13 PM
oikos  Find all comments by oikos
Lydia and her "household" were baptised. Household in Greek is oikos.

"And here, be it observed, that the word used by the Holy Ghost is not oikia which signifies a man’s household or servants, but oikos which, when relating to persons, means “family,” and has special reference to infant children. Taylor, editor of “Calmet’s Dictionary of the Bible.” gives no less than fifty examples of oikos in the sense of family. The word oikos, relating to persons, always includes little children. See Gen. 34:30; Num. 16:27,32; Deut. 25:9: Ruth 1:12: Psalm 113:9; 1 Sam. 2:33. When the Jews then read that Lydia and her house (oikos), the ,jailer and his house (oikos). and the house (oikos) of Stephanas were baptized, would they not attach the same idea to the word oikos that their sacred writers had done for upwards of two thousand years, and understand it to mean a man’s or a woman’s children—infants included?" (Rev W.A.McKay)

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News Item3/21/14 12:55 PM
Observer  Find all comments by Observer
R. K. Borill wrote:
Observer,
If you think this is darkness then you are looking at this from the light coming through the crack in your roof.
Thanks for the smartalec response. When you get enough respect for God's word and are determined to stop twisting it to your own ends, then be sure to come back for a grown up discussion.
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News Item3/21/14 12:15 PM
R. K. Borill | Baton Rouge, Louisiana  Protected NameFind all comments by R. K. Borill
Observer,

If you think this is darkness then you are looking at this from the light coming through the crack in your roof.

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News Item3/20/14 4:32 PM
Observer  Find all comments by Observer
manifesting the truth wrote:
"....." (S.J.Tanner)
Darkness, utter darkness!
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News Item3/20/14 3:36 PM
manifesting the truth  Find all comments by manifesting the truth
"Baptism is a sign and seal of the covenant of grace, and of the cleansing away of sins by union with Christ (Mark 1:4; Col 2:11,12; Gal 3:27). This sacred ordinance is performed in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit (Matt 3:11; 28:19; John 1:33), and is rightly administered by sprinkling or pouring water on the applicant (Ezek 36:25-27; Heb 9:10, 19-22; Acts 2:41;16:33; Mark 7:4). [Note that in Heb 9:10 washings is literally baptisms in the Greek, and that in the original Greek of Mark 7:4 the tables or couches undergoing the Old Testament ceremonial washing by sprinkling (cf. Numb 8:7,19:18) are literally said to be baptized, thus destroying the notion that the Greek word baptizo refers to dipping rather than ceremonial cleansing in the New Testament.]

The Old Testament sign of the covenant of grace was circumcision, which, like baptism, represents the taking away of sin by union with the crucified and risen Christ: “In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ: Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead" (S.J.Tanner)

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News Item3/19/14 9:54 PM
R. K. Borill | Baton Rouge, Louisiana  Protected NameFind all comments by R. K. Borill
John UK writes,

Church of Christ founded by son of a Presbyterian? What do you expect?

R. K. Borill responds,

I guess this means The Lord wasn't a Baptist because even one of his Apostles was a devil. Only the Baptists are free of apostates.

John 6:70-71 KJV
[70] Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil? [71] He spake of Judas Iscariot the son of Simon: for he it was that should betray him, being one of the twelve.

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News Item3/19/14 6:22 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
R. K. Borill wrote:
"“You are now going to die to sin,” Robertson told Richards beforehand. “You’re going to be buried — the old you — and the new one will come forth. God will seal you with his spirit and you will be guaranteed to be raised from the dead one day and live forever. Good news, you know?”"
Words not as fancy as the RCC priest craft book, but sounds a lot like "baptismal regeneration" to me.
This is way out even for these Arminian heretics.
Church of Christ founded by son of a Presbyterian? What do you expect?
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News Item3/19/14 6:04 PM
R. K. Borill | Baton Rouge, Louisiana  Protected NameFind all comments by R. K. Borill
"“You are now going to die to sin,” Robertson told Richards beforehand. “You’re going to be buried — the old you — and the new one will come forth. God will seal you with his spirit and you will be guaranteed to be raised from the dead one day and live forever. Good news, you know?”"

Words not as fancy as the RCC priest craft book, but sounds a lot like "baptismal regeneration" to me.

This is way out even for these Arminian heretics.

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