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SUNDAY, MAR 16, 2014  |  19 comments
Islamic Extremists in Somalia Behead Two Christians
Islamic extremists from the rebel Al Shabaab militia last week publicly beheaded a mother of two girls and her cousin in southeastern Somalia after discovering they were Christians, sources said.

In the port town of Barawa in the Lower Shebelle Region, the extremists on March 4 called residents to the town center to witness the executions of the 41-year-old mother, Sadia Ali Omar, and her 35-year-old cousin, Osman Mohamoud Moge, the sources said.

Before killing them, an Al Shabaab militant announced, ‚ÄúWe know these two people are Christians who recently came back from Kenya ‚Äď we want to wipe out any underground Christian living inside of mujahidin [jihadists‚Äô] area,‚ÄĚ according to an area resident whose name is undisclosed for security reasons. ...


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News Item3/23/14 12:47 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Helps wrote:
Sorry! Didn't realise. In which case You might like to try the Matt 24 links, as this was the section you had expressed an interest in.
No apology needed bro. I will try to dig out the section and see if it has the answers. Thank you.
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News Item3/23/14 12:03 PM
Helps | UK  Find all comments by Helps
John UK wrote:
Thank you, but my name isn't Charles Spurgeon, and the Lord has not given me the capacity to read lengthy theological treatises, much as I would like to.
Sorry! Didn't realise. In which case You might like to try the Matt 24 links, as this was the section you had expressed an interest in.
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News Item3/23/14 11:53 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Helps wrote:
Whole section on Amillennialism:
Index
On The Millenial Reign by P E Hughes:
Index
On the false doctrine of the secret rapture - Ralph Woodrow:
Index
Thank you, but my name isn't Charles Spurgeon, and the Lord has not given me the capacity to read lengthy theological treatises, much as I would like to.
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News Item3/23/14 11:39 AM
Helps | UK  Find all comments by Helps
John UK wrote:
Interesting points RK. I would like to learn more about this possibility.
Whole section on Amillennialism:
Index

Explanation of Matthew 24 by Ralph Woodrow:
Index

On The Millenial Reign by P E Hughes:
Index

On the false doctrine of the secret rapture - Ralph Woodrow:
Index

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News Item3/23/14 6:19 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
R. K. Borill wrote:
John,
I believe that both are true. Much of what The Lord taught had immediate application with future implication especially when it came to Israel.
RK, yes, this is what I find so difficult about prophecy. It should be possible to arrive at the truth. After all, the Jews who heard the Lord speak these things presumably ought to have understood his words or, if not, at least someone, somewhere, ought to have understood. I've grappled with it for decades, and would still like to know what it was that the "current generation" saw fulfilled in their day. And if they did see prophecy fulfilled, what guarantee is there that a "future implication" is yet to come to pass or not? You see the problem?
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News Item3/22/14 7:54 PM
R. K. Borill | Baton Rouge, Louisiana  Protected NameFind all comments by R. K. Borill
John,

I believe that both are true. Much of what The Lord taught had immediate application with future implication especially when it came to Israel.

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News Item3/22/14 3:00 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
R. K. Borill wrote:
John,
Sure, I'll try to help. What would you like to know?
Thank you RK,

I have a great difficulty with Matthew 24, in understanding it, because it seems to me that there are things mentioned relating to near future and also to the end of the world.

For instance

Matthew 24:31 KJV
31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

I would have said that this text refers to the end of the world. Yet a few verses later, we have your quoted text which said that the current generation would see these things:

Matthew 24:34 KJV
34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

Hence the dilemma.

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News Item3/22/14 2:12 PM
R. K. Borill | Baton Rouge, Louisiana  Protected NameFind all comments by R. K. Borill
John,

Sure, I'll try to help. What would you like to know?

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News Item3/22/14 9:15 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
R. K. Borill wrote:
The Great Tribulation occurred in the first century with the destruction of the physical Israel and scattering of the Jews. It began with Vespatian sent to put down Jewish rebellion. These events ushered in the millinium. Otherwise Matthew 24:34 makes no sense. We are near the end of the millinium and Armegedon.
Matthew 24:34 KJV
[34] Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
The events of Matt. 24 had to have occurred within 40 years of the crucifixion. And they did in 70 AD.
Interesting points RK. I would like to learn more about this possibility.
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News Item3/22/14 7:56 AM
R. K. Borill | Baton Rouge, Louisiana  Protected NameFind all comments by R. K. Borill
Jim,

The Great Tribulation occurred in the first century with the destruction of the physical Israel and scattering of the Jews. It began with Vespatian sent to put down Jewish rebellion. These events ushered in the millinium. Otherwise Matthew 24:34 makes no sense. We are near the end of the millinium and Armegedon.

Matthew 24:34 KJV
[34] Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

The events of Matt. 24 had to have occurred within 40 years of the crucifixion. And they did in 70 AD.

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News Item3/22/14 7:56 AM
R. K. Borill | Baton Rouge, Louisiana  Protected NameFind all comments by R. K. Borill
Jim,

The Great Tribulation occurred in the first century with the destruction of the physical Israel and scattering of the Jews. It began with Vespatian sent to put down Jewish rebellion. These events ushered in the millinium. Otherwise Matthew 24:21 makes no sense. We are near the end of the millinium and Armegedon.

Matthew 24:34 KJV
[34] Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

The events of Matt. 24 had to have occurred within 40 years of the crucifixion. And they did in 70 AD.

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News Item3/17/14 10:30 PM
R. K. Borill | Baton Rouge, Louisiana  Protected NameFind all comments by R. K. Borill
Jim Lincoln writes,
No, we are no seeing the Book of Revelation being lived out now. For one thing, I do believe many here are Christians, if this were the tribulational period, we wouldn't be here, we would have been raptured, q.v., Reasons for the Rapture

R. K Borill writes,
You sound like a Dispy Dipper. Consider Scofield's fatal error:

Violation of
Acts 4:12 KJV
[12] Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

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News Item3/17/14 2:35 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
No, we are no seeing the Book of Revelation being lived out now. For one thing, I do believe many here are Christians, if this were the tribulational period, we wouldn't be here, we would have been raptured, q.v., Reasons for the Rapture

Matthew 24
21 for then there will be a great tribulation, such as has not occurred since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever shall.
22 "And unless those days had been cut short, no life would have been saved; but for the sake of the elect those days shall be cut short.---NASB

So, no, the Tribulation hasn't happened, q.v., An Interpretation of Matthew 24‚ÄĒ25.

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News Item3/17/14 2:12 PM
R. K. Borill | Baton Rouge, Louisiana  Protected NameFind all comments by R. K. Borill
Amen penned.

Revelation 22:20 KJV
[20] He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

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News Item3/17/14 9:46 AM
penned  Find all comments by penned
that's right, RK, we see the book of Revelations being lived out right now, and the book was given to believers for days such as this.
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News Item3/16/14 9:02 PM
R. K. Borill | Baton Rouge, Louisiana  Protected NameFind all comments by R. K. Borill
Revelation 20:4 KJV
[4] And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
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News Item3/16/14 6:55 PM
R. K. Borill | Baton Rouge, Louisiana  Protected NameFind all comments by R. K. Borill
Revelation 16:13 KJV
[13] And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
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News Item3/16/14 3:07 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Ah, Chris, yes, it is basically Islam's Global War against Christianity, they attack Buddhists and any other religion besides, when they run out of other religions than they fight amongst themselves. You should have the website, Islam: The Religion of Peace handy, so you can somewhat keep track of the murderous tally of Islam.
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News Item3/16/14 6:40 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Isn't it interesting how it is that only biblical Christianity is under attack? Consider the 10's of 1000's false religions, cults, etc, around the globe and you never hear a peep about any one of them as far as any force coming against them. Isn't that interesting? Hmmm. Follow the inventions and fables that mankind dreams up and you are accepted into the fold and can live in peace. Follow the God of the bible and you are a hostile enemy to the world at large. Interesting.
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