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Choice News FRIDAY, MAR 14, 2014  |  124 comments
KJV Still Most Popular, Faster Growing Bible Translation

When Americans reach for their Bibles, more than half of them pick up a King James Version (KJV), according to a new study advised by respected historian Mark Noll.

The 55 percent who read the KJV easily outnumber the 19 percent who read the New International Version (NIV). And the percentages drop into the single digits for competitors such as the New Revised Standard Version, New America Bible, and the Living Bible.

So concludes "The Bible in American Life," a lengthy report by the Center for the Study of Religion and American Culture at Indiana University‚ÄďPurdue University Indianapolis (IUPUI). Funded by the Lilly Foundation, researchers asked questions on what David Briggs of the ARDA, which first reported the results, calls "two of the most highly respected data sources for American religion"‚ÄĒthe General Social Survey and the National Congregations Study. ...


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quick&powerful& sharper than any 2edgedSWORD

"For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ." ‚ÄĒ2nd Corinthians 2:17

‚ÄúYe shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.‚ÄĚ ‚ÄĒDeuteronomy 4:2

Psalm 11:3, ‚ÄúIf the foundations be destroyed, what can the righteous do?‚ÄĚ

Satan is trying to destroy the foundations, taking away the Doctrine of Christ (2nd John 1:9), and perverting the simplicity of the Gospel message (2nd Corinthians 11:3). Whereas God confounded men at the Tower of Babel to prevent them from going to Satan (Acts 17:26-27); today Satan is confounding men to prevent them from going to God (2nd Corinthians 4:4). Satan is using all the hundreds of different corrupt Bible versions to confound everyone. All of the doctrines being taught in churches today are confusing, confounding people. Satan knows that people won't memorize a Bible that keeps changing. I plead with you, use only the King James Bible (not the 21st Century KJV and not the New KJV).

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News Item7/19/15 3:01 PM
lex luthor | metropolis  Find all comments by lex luthor
Perry White wrote:
It must be a slow news day when S.A. has to bring up a story from 2014...an attempt at getting readership?
It was not SA who resurrected it.
It was the new poster.
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News Item7/19/15 2:46 PM
Perry White | Metropolis  Find all comments by Perry White
It must be a slow news day when S.A. has to bring up a story from 2014...an attempt at getting readership?
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News Item7/19/15 8:14 AM
Ditto 2 u | Copy land  Find all comments by Ditto 2 u
Peregrin72 wrote:
As a KJB/TR lover and believer--very heartening to hear.
Bible verses NIV test

It has been said by many that the NIV is the most readable and accurate Bible on the market today and that it is based on older and more reliable manuscripts than the King James Bible. In regard to the above statements an "acid test" is the only fair way to put the NIV and the KJV "to the test" as one might say... so get out you NIV, a pen and when you have completed the test I encourage you to then take a KJV and see the result...

INSTRUCTIONS:

Using the New International Version (NIV) Bible, answer the above link questions. Do not rely on your memory. As the Bible is the final authority, you must take the answer from the Bible verse (not from footnotes but from the text).

1.Fill in the missing words in Matthew 5:44. "Love your enemies,__________ them that curse you, ______________ to them that hate you, and pray for them that __________ and persecute you."

2.According to Matthew 17:21, what two things are required to cast out this type of demon? a. ______ b. _______

3.According to Matthew 18:11, why did Jesus come to earth? ____
Etc.

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News Item7/19/15 7:25 AM
Peregrin72 | Michigan  Contact via emailFind all comments by Peregrin72
As a KJB/TR lover and believer, this is very heartening to hear.
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News Item4/6/14 5:36 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
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News Item4/5/14 5:31 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
For another thread, I thought I would look up New King James Version (NKJV Bible), specifically The MacArthur Study Bible, NKJV: Revised & Updated Edition Hardcover ‚Äď October 29, 2013, for half-price! (Unfortunately, that doesn't cover shipping ) You should look around other places if you can get it for $25.00. The rather slanted article didn't seem to differentiate between sells of the KJV and NKJV, but anyway, from a Bible scholar Dan Wallace, you can at least use the NKJV to translate the KJV However, when paying attention to the marginal notes of the NKJV, you'll really have an excellent Bible, and John MacArthur & Co., can help you with many of your translation questions.
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News Item3/18/14 7:49 AM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Protected NameFind all comments by Michael Hranek
Curious wrote:
KJV : "...above all thy name."
NASB: "..according to all Your name."
Which is correct? Does it matter?
Sorry I don't know Hebrew
For me in taking both as translations I see there is a depth of meaning in the Hebrew word translated that a single English word might not easily communicate
And Yes, it matters greatly as God Himself associates His Word and His keeping it as intimately related to His very name.

So let's fight and argue about which translation is (quote) the right/perfect one or humbly bow in thankful worship of how we can trust our lives to what God says to us.

I hope you are understanding that I am meaning DOCTRINE, the TRUTH the things God Himself wants us to know, understand, believe and live by and out in our lives by His grace.

This is hard to put into words, as Doctrine and Truth, really hearing what God says to us, although intimately interrelated to specific Bible verses and words, memorizing them and knowing them, is more(?) better(?) alive(?) than quoting them verbatim but from them, from the ministry of the Holy Spirit to have revelation of God...FAITH

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News Item3/18/14 7:16 AM
Curious  Find all comments by Curious
Michael Hranek wrote:
"I will bow down toward Your holy temple And give thanks to Your name for Your lovingkindness and Your truth; For You have magnified Your word according to all Your name."
Psalm 138:2 nasb
KJV : "...above all thy name."
NASB: "..according to all Your name."

Which is correct? Does it matter?

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News Item3/18/14 6:35 AM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Protected NameFind all comments by Michael Hranek
Michael Hranek wrote:
Observer

A friend told me her favorite Psalms were 138 & 139 and when I read verse 2 in 138 I'm OOS to tell of His wonderful conviction

Continued...

So getting back to your question what do I do with this verse, to me a better question is, what does God do with it?

Does He want us to strain out gnats and swallow whole camels, as in nit picking Bible translations to death? No, I don't think He wants us to do that.

Does He want us to have an anything goes perversion of Christianity? No, I don' think He wants us to have that either.

So what is His will?
Could it be far more along the lines of He wants us to listen, really listen to what He says in the context of all of Scripture like our lives and the lives of everyone we love and care about depends upon really hearing Him, knowing what He says, believing what He says and doing what He tells us?

In the context of the whole of First Timothy

1 Tim
15 Meditate on these things; give yourself entirely to them, that your progress may be evident to all.
16 Take heed to yourself and to the doctrine. Continue in them, for in doing this you will save both yourself and those who hear you.

IMHO in seeking God He will lead us in what is right regarding translations

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News Item3/18/14 5:06 AM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Protected NameFind all comments by Michael Hranek
Observer wrote:
Bro, a great deal of what you say is right. I would never wish to contend about Bible versions to create a stumbling block to anyone. BUT, as Christians we should care about the issues involved and as opportunity affords we should discuss, help and guide as with any other issue.
Michael bro, what do you make of?:
Psalm 138:2
I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name.
Observer

"I will bow down toward Your holy temple And give thanks to Your name for Your lovingkindness and Your truth; For You have magnified Your word according to all Your name."
Psalm 138:2 nasb

Was the first verse God used in my life as a 28 year old when He got me to read the Bible for myself. I had visited a Sunday School Class in a Baptist Church where everyone had Bibles with a soundly saved Bible teacher.

So on the Saturday after Easter here I was a sinner who walked into the local Christian Bookstore and walked out with a NASB red letter addition with my own name of the cover wondering what I had done.

A friend told me her favorite Psalms were 138 & 139 and when I read verse 2 in 138 I'm OOS to tell of His wonderful conviction

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News Item3/17/14 8:54 PM
Observer  Find all comments by Observer
Michael Hranek wrote:
.. Jesus didn't die for 'the right' Bible translation He died for us who had so sinned against Him...
Bro, a great deal of what you say is right. I would never wish to contend about Bible versions to create a stumbling block to anyone. BUT, as Christians we should care about the issues involved and as opportunity affords we should discuss, help and guide as with any other issue.

Michael bro, what do you make of?:

Psalm 138:2
I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Shane, I'm gonna be away for the next few days, so will establish contact now, but it'll be a few days before I can respond to ya.

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News Item3/17/14 8:50 PM
Shane | socal  Contact via emailFind all comments by Shane
Observer... I appreciate your answer. I would like to go into more detail with you if you are willing. My email is available. If not, no worries. I will try and give a respond maybe tomorrow.

Off to work now.

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News Item3/17/14 8:47 PM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Protected NameFind all comments by Michael Hranek
Observer
Shane
John UK
Also our precious Sisters in Christ and
Anybody Else reading these posts
Even our (quote) friends the trolls

We have a lot of learning and growing to do. It might do us a lot of good to remember how long suffering (KJV word) God in His Lovingkindness (NASB word) has been to all of us and realize once again Jesus didn't die for 'the right' Bible translation He died for us who had so sinned against Him, who were so sinful both by nature and by choice that the only way He could save us from our sins was for the Son God loves more than all of Creation and every living being in it put together to take the fullness of the wrath due us on the cross, die and rise again the third day.

I don't know about you all but when I meet a brother or sister and I find in them humble thankful love for Jesus Christ who died for them and love for those born again of the Spirit of God, and a desire to see the lost saved expressed in a labor of love to be used by God for that, I am not offended if they use the KJV, or even the NIV which to be polite I really don't care for. And if messing with them about what translation they use distracts them from serving Christ, God help me to grow in my faith, keep my big mouth shut, except to pray for them for fruitful ministry

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News Item3/17/14 8:21 PM
Observer  Find all comments by Observer
Shane wrote:
Observer... I give a thoughtful, sincere answer and you give me that?
Where's the love bro?
Ok... 1 Peter 1:23... was that speaking of the pages of the kjv? Did Christ write down his words on paper and hand them to his apostles? Or was it his actual words? What does this have to do with your mysticism claim?
To be honest, you didn't answer my questions. You just threw out scriptures in a pontiff like way with a on the end.
????
That, Shane, was a digression away from the Bible versions issue to deal with your contention that the word or truth of God is not involved in one's salvation.

The fact is that every Christian blessing is mediated through the word of God, including the new birth. Hence the reason why we say it's a means of grace.

However if the truth is important in conversion, sanctification etc. dare we ignore the onslaught in the issue of underlying texts? It concerns the purity of that God given revelation, and should therefore matter to every child of God and to the Church of God, which is supposed to be the pillar and ground of truth.

I apologize if my answer appeared uncaring.

BTW, I have never seen any Pontiff throw out Scriptures to prove any point. But maybe you know better.

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News Item3/17/14 7:55 PM
Shane | socal  Contact via emailFind all comments by Shane
Observer... I give a thoughtful, sincere answer and you give me that?
Where's the love bro?
Ok... 1 Peter 1:23... was that speaking of the pages of the kjv? Did Christ write down his words on paper and hand them to his apostles? Or was it his actual words? What does this have to do with your mysticism claim?

To be honest, you didn't answer my questions. You just threw out scriptures in a pontiff like way with a on the end.

????

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News Item3/17/14 7:32 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Observer wrote:
Hey bro,
Good addition, Thank you!
By "next", I meant next argument from Shane in support of his view.

I've gotta head off soon. May not be on here for a few days.
Catch ya soon!
Blessings to you brethren and to the Israel of God!
God bless the Observer!

I'm out working all day tomorrow from 6.00am but be back tomorrow night hopefully not too tired to make a comment or three.

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News Item3/17/14 7:26 PM
Observer  Find all comments by Observer
John UK wrote:
The next one is....
2 Timothy 3:15 KJV
15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
Hey bro,

Good addition, Thank you!

By "next", I meant next argument from Shane in support of his view.

I've gotta head off soon. May not be on here for a few days.

Catch ya soon!

Blessings to you brethren and to the Israel of God!

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News Item3/17/14 7:19 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Observer wrote:
Next!
The next one is....

2 Timothy 3:15 KJV
15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

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News Item3/17/14 7:04 PM
Observer  Find all comments by Observer
Shane wrote:
Observer...What I mean is this, the people of Israel had the scriptures. Yet the majority rejected Christ. So... it's not the scriptures that give
salvation, it's Christ.
Oh dear, I was hoping that my questions would cause you to pause and think. Now you've done it!

1 Corinthians 4:15
For though ye have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel.

James 1:18
Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth..

1 Peter 1:23
being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

Next!

PS. The verse you quoted, you've not understood correctly!

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