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TUESDAY, MAR 4, 2014  |  37 comments
Rick Warren Squashes Rumors; Says He Strongly Opposes Uganda's Anti-Homosexuality Law

Pastor Rick Warren on Sunday strongly condemned rumors that he supported a controversial law passed in Uganda last week that allows those convicted of homosexuality to be imprisoned for life. The pastor of California's Saddleback Church underscored that he is against the law today just as he was in 2009 when it was first proposed.

"Only fools believe everything they hear!" Warren wrote, quoting Proverbs 14:15.

The rumor started four years ago when Rachel Maddow of MSNBC "falsely accused me of supporting the law – without ever bothering to check with me if it was true," he explained on his Facebook page.

Last week, when the "bad law" passed, the rumors popped up again, he noted. Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni signed the anti-homosexuality bill into law, stating, "No study has shown you can be homosexual by nature. That's why I have agreed to sign the bill." ...


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Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Protected NameFind all comments by Michael Hranek
GSTexas wrote:
This man is woefully ignorant of sound biblical doctrine.
Good Morning
GSTexas

Actually I think RW has quite a bit of head knowledge of Biblical Doctrine and the real problem with him and others like him (and can be with us too if we are not on guard) is that He does not fear the LORD.

For that matter if you or I would talk with people today, even church people about the Fear of the LORD, it seems many of them, sadly even seminary educated pastors, would know little of what the Bible says, let alone treasure it in thier lives.

Much learning and growing to do here.

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News Item3/5/14 11:48 PM
GSTexas  Find all comments by GSTexas
Thanks guys.

As much as I dislike Rick Warren, I dont want to be disingenuous and misrepresent his ministry. His ministry requires no misrepresentation to be shown unbiblical, just a little research and an understanding of Biblical doctrine reveals this guy for the false teacher he is.

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News Item3/5/14 11:10 PM
Lurker  Protected NameFind all comments by Lurker
GSTexas wrote:
This man is woefully ignorant of sound biblical doctrine. There is only one "global giant" of spiritual emptiness, and that is sin. None of those things cause spiritual emptiness, but are rather the result of spiritual emptiness. Man is spiritually empty because he is born with a sin nature inherited from Adam (Romans 5:12) and has sinned against a holy God (Romans 3:23). What is the point in fighting these issues without first adressing the real issue (man has sinned against a holy God, and is in need of a savior) by spreading the Gospel? It truly saddens my heart that so many are deceived by this charlatan.
Well said. Not a rant and not to feel foolish for.
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News Item3/5/14 10:42 PM
Shane | socal  Contact via emailFind all comments by Shane
I agree penny.
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News Item3/5/14 10:03 PM
penny  Find all comments by penny
GS, I don't know, you made a lot of sense to me and looks like you actually looked things up. great!
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News Item3/5/14 9:44 PM
GSTexas  Find all comments by GSTexas
Actually, I think I misread the article. After reading the quote again, it appears that spiritual emptiness is supposed to be one of the global giants.

I feel foolish, ignore my rant.

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News Item3/5/14 9:34 PM
GSTexas  Find all comments by GSTexas
"Warren stresses that his role is always pastoral, not political. His ministry's PEACE Plan is an effort "to mobilize Christians around the world to address … the "five global giants" of spiritual emptiness, corrupt leadership, poverty, disease, and illiteracy"

This man is woefully ignorant of sound biblical doctrine. There is only one "global giant" of spiritual emptiness, and that is sin. None of those things cause spiritual emptiness, but are rather the result of spiritual emptiness. Man is spiritually empty because he is born with a sin nature inherited from Adam (Romans 5:12) and has sinned against a holy God (Romans 3:23). What is the point in fighting these issues without first adressing the real issue (man has sinned against a holy God, and is in need of a savior) by spreading the Gospel? It truly saddens my heart that so many are deceived by this charlatan.

Romans 16:17-18 "Now I beseech you, bretheren, mark them which cause divisions and offenses contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them,
18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple."

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News Item3/5/14 10:57 AM
Dorcas | USA  Find all comments by Dorcas
Michael Hranek wrote:
Mike NY
True
I believe it might help some
BUT Even more I think it would help even more to get out of churches, and out from under the condemnation, intimidation and influences of religious celebrities who have misled and deceived many into believing the lie that it is evil to:
preach against sin
to expose false teachings and teachers
to part company with false Christians
to preach the Truth, The very best of your good works and being religiou, even very religious and saying you believe in Jesus Christ doesn't make you a Christian, "Ye must be born again" or you are not a Christian, you are not a child of God (and if not whose child does that make you?) you are not right with God, you are not on your way to heaven, you are on your way to hell forever.
Well said...Michael
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News Item3/5/14 10:52 AM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Protected NameFind all comments by Michael Hranek
Mike wrote:
Getting out of 501c3 might help.
Mike NY
True
I believe it might help some

BUT Even more I think it would help even more to get out of churches, and out from under the condemnation, intimidation and influences of religious celebrities who have misled and deceived many into believing the lie that it is evil to:
preach against sin
to expose false teachings and teachers
to part company with false Christians
to preach the Truth, The very best of your good works and being religiou, even very religious and saying you believe in Jesus Christ doesn't make you a Christian, "Ye must be born again" or you are not a Christian, you are not a child of God (and if not whose child does that make you?) you are not right with God, you are not on your way to heaven, you are on your way to hell forever.

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News Item3/5/14 9:21 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
R. K. Borill wrote:
Homosexuality is a crime which should be punished by the State, but that is clearly not going to happen in the US. My concern is that the state may begin to force it's will upon the church that is responsible to discipline the unrepentant by turning them over to Satan, i.e. putting out of the church and refusing admittance to the Lord's supper until they repent. Churches may be opened to persecution thus bringing about an end to liberty.
Getting out of 501c3 might help.
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News Item3/4/14 10:47 PM
R. K. Borill | Baton Rouge, Louisiana  Protected NameFind all comments by R. K. Borill
Homosexuality is a crime which should be punished by the State, but that is clearly not going to happen in the US. My concern is that the state may begin to force it's will upon the church that is responsible to discipline the unrepentant by turning them over to Satan, i.e. putting out of the church and refusing admittance to the Lord's supper until they repent. Churches may be opened to persecution thus bringing about an end to liberty.
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News Item3/4/14 10:14 PM
Dolores | Texas  Find all comments by Dolores
Michael, you are so right, Chuch leadership has failed to do its job for sure!! Dooey, you won't see me doing much debating on here about different Churches and beliefs.I have found it doesn't do a lot of good. My calling is teaching and you will read a lot of stories with lessons I have been shown to pass on to others and maybe reach a lost soul out there somewhere, also. Sometimes my teaching will be a rebuke of something I see as wrong but I try not to do it in anger. God bless, Dooey and Michael
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News Item3/4/14 7:43 PM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Protected NameFind all comments by Michael Hranek
Dooey wrote:
You is inconsistent.
Dooey
If you want to be upset with anyone, it would be far better to take issue with those in church leadership who are failing in this not a sister in Christ who IMHO is seeking to do the best she can do in what is essentially a mindfield of a mess in today's Christian society in America

Beside if you can do better lose the moniker post under your real name and take your stand.

I think you will find in a hurry there is alot of learning and growing to do, and the very real possibility you will mess up.

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News Item3/4/14 6:58 PM
Strat  Find all comments by Strat
Warren is a one world religion pitch man and snake oil salesman and nothing else.
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News Item3/4/14 6:52 PM
Now that is a good one  Find all comments by Now that is a good one
Dooey wrote:
You is inconsistent. What Christ did, you don't do to the people here who promote error. In fact often you side with them. Why? When Dopey applauded SteveR for defending and esteeming the RCC, you said nothing. Why? Do you agree with SteveR that the RCC is the elect of God?
Delores said, "I'm sorry but when a person is in the spot light carrying the name of Christ.." and now Dooey is saying Steve R is in the spotlight as a "leader"
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News Item3/4/14 6:46 PM
Dooey  Find all comments by Dooey
Dolores wrote:
..it's called righteous anger, the same anger Jesus had when He threw the money changers out of the temple and called the Pharisees vipers, white washed tombs with dead men bones inside. ...I'm not against you or arguing for myself but for the cause of my Christ.
You is inconsistent. What you say Christ did, you don't do to the people here who promote the error you condemn. In fact often you side with them. Why? When Dopey applauded SteveR for defending and esteeming the RCC, you said nothing. Why? Do you agree with SteveR that the RCC is the elect of God?
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News Item3/4/14 4:34 PM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Protected NameFind all comments by Michael Hranek
Dolores wrote:
I'm sorry but when a person is in the spot light carrying the name of Christ and then blasphems that name and giving hope to people that are headed for hell and is actually helping the cause of Satan really gets me fired up, I believe it's called righteous anger, the same anger Jesus had when He threw the money changers out of the temple and called the Pharisees vipers, white washed tombs with dead men bones inside. He died for them in spite of what they did to Him. He would forgive them as well but when you are self righteous it's hard to see yourself in need of a saviour. There are two sides to God Love and Justice. Btw, Dooey, I'm not against you or arguing for myself but for the cause of my Christ.
Dolores
My hatred of evil in this matter is not so much opposition to RW although it is that BUT also or even more for those in church leadership who refused to vet this man (and others like him), expose him to their denominations and congregation and stand up for the truth explaining Biblically why, but instead promoted him and his teachings in the church, BECAUSE if those in leadership had been faithful to teach the truth and protect those entrusted to them from false teaching we would simply not have the mess we have today.
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News Item3/4/14 4:18 PM
Dolores | Texas  Find all comments by Dolores
I'm sorry but when a person is in the spot light carrying the name of Christ and then blasphems that name and giving hope to people that are headed for hell and is actually helping the cause of Satan really gets me fired up, I believe it's called righteous anger, the same anger Jesus had when He threw the money changers out of the temple and called the Pharisees vipers, white washed tombs with dead men bones inside. He died for them in spite of what they did to Him. He would forgive them as well but when you are self righteous it's hard to see yourself in need of a saviour. There are two sides to God Love and Justice. Btw, Dooey, I'm not against you or arguing for myself but for the cause of my Christ.
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News Item3/4/14 3:02 PM
2fold  Find all comments by 2fold
Dooey wrote:
1 Peter 4:8
And above all things have fervent charity.... for charity shall cover the multitude of sins.
Why have you chosen to omit "among yourselves" from the verses of Peter?

Is it because they suppress the intended accusation?

Remember
1Cor 5:13 But them that are without God judgeth

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News Item3/4/14 2:42 PM
Dooey  Find all comments by Dooey
Dolores wrote:
He is also one of the preachers that is saying that we (Christians)serve the same God as Islam. Video by Jack Van Impe"Chrislam One World Religion Emerging"Seems like the new pope is doing the same and including antheist in going to heaven also if they follow their conscience
I am disappointed with you Dolores. I thought you understood the importance of love.

1 Peter 4:8
And above all things have fervent charity.... for charity shall cover the multitude of sins.

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