Grace Church in Indiana lifts restrictions on women preachers
Grace Church, an 8,000-10,000-member congregation in Noblesville, Ind., has been fielding requests from the media about its recent reversal on the issue of women in leadership. But as a representative for the megachurch told The Christian Post this week, it could be a while before it issues any official statement on why administrators now believe God calls both men and women to lead His Church.
"The decision has been from our leaders [that] their desire is to lift all restrictions from women in leadership, including the role of an elder and the role of a senior pastor," she explained.
While two of the three long-standing restrictions have been lifted, the church must still work its way through degendering the eldership, if that is what the congregation decides to do when it comes time for members to vote.
The leaders of Grace Church appear to go to great lengths in the teachings presented...
why are there so many women pastors? because our society is not church centered anymore. they are social service centered. that is woman who would be happier at home having children hired to manage the affairs of other people's families. industry gone, makes men weak, and state/service jobs are what's left heavy nanny mentality. so women get used to managing men. and men when they get pushed enough tend to just walk away, don't want to put up with it. I've seen churches that are "men only" leadership where women start teaching anyway -- the roles of society have been so tossed in the air, and the putting off of having children, school debt and all that doesn't help.
when men truly carry out their God given responsibilities, the nanny society is deeply offended. this is truly a spiritual battle. I pray for the true male leaders in my world everyday. Kudos to those who teach the word of God without shame!
http://www.gotquestions.org/women-pastors.html This is funny cuz I had the question last night why are there no woman pastors so I went to the bible for answers. I think we should follow the word no matter what our flesh or world says. Gods givin us strict instrunctions. This is a link to a good debate. God bless
Mike wrote: There is no such thing as a "modern biblical context." All contexts, modern or otherwise, are to be interpreted according to biblical requirements, which culture contexts do not have authority to change.
Well said Mike! The word of God cannot be interpreted by cultures, but cultures must be led by the word of God. But as we know, this is of course not done by our hirelings and our godless societies.
stroughs wrote: Church "lifts restrictions on women preachers." In a day when all men are created equal, "restrictions" and "chains" are synonymous. They were designed to keep down certain demographics.
Priority wrote: --- From the Greek adiophora "indifferent things" indicates things outside of moral law‚ÄĒthat is, actions that the modern biblical context neither mandates nor forbids. ---
There is no such thing as a "modern biblical context." All contexts, modern or otherwise, are to be interpreted according to biblical requirements, which culture contexts do not have authority to change.
Thornside wrote: The only reason churches put women in the pulpit is because the world has gone in that direction to wreck God's institution of wife and marriage. Therefore who takes that decision is worldly.
Very well stated, Thornside. If I should ever happen to visit a church and then discover that a woman is "preaching" that day or is the "elder," I get out of there as fast as God allows me. Women "preachers" do nothing but usher false teaching into a congregation. I Timothy 2:11-12 is still in effect.
I was going to a Charismatic church where the gifts were in full swing and a bit out of control. Anyway, they also had a female pastor, Bertie McCoy, and I never felt like she belonged. It was the first time I had even heard of female preachers, much less the head of any church. She was nice enough and everything but I didn't feel.like she was gifted to that position by any stretch.
I have to agree, and my initial thought after reading what really amounts to the comprimise of God's Word was how the homosexuals are also being welcomed because times have changed...God has changed. Females in the pulpit, as much as I love females and would always support them, it's not a blockheaded move to obey Pauls instructions when the writers of the Word were inspired by the Holy Spirit. The bible is our guidebook, straight from God, for Christian living, morals, and salvation. Comprimise is never an option, whether we like the rules or not. Comprimise is why we have so much apostacy today, and remember, apostacy starts with one comprimise and then snowballs once the infection sets in.
First century women held high positions in pagan temples (e.g. oracles). The idea that this is a first century matter is ridiculous. Women would of been just as capable back then as now. Fighter pilots have nothing to do with this issue. This is an issue of social ordering. Parents are still to be obeyed by children. We are still required to submit to elders and civil ministers. Imagine the chaos of a wife elder ruling over a husband who is the head.... the bible never meant these situations to be determined by culture. Christianity was born out as counter cultural
"why administrators now believe God calls both men and women to lead His Church."
Why?? Because Satan's Liberalism has taken over and now dominates the church along with sin.
God does not use those NOT ordained by Him to enter the pulpit. Therefore put a women in there if you want but all you will get from her is human babble and Liberal unbiblical theories. Her function and role was established by God in the beginning and HE does not have to change His mind (just because the world does) because it is perfect.
The only reason churches put women in the pulpit is because the world has gone in that direction to wreck God's institution of wife and marriage. Therefore who takes that decision is worldly.
Priority wrote: Like head coverings, women in the pulpit was a first century issue. Today women have rights and freedoms that Paul couldn't have predicted. A male preacher or a female preacher is adiophora. From the Greek adiophora "indifferent things" indicates things outside of moral law‚ÄĒthat is, actions that the modern biblical context neither mandates nor forbids. These freedoms for women are not new. Women pilot rockets and jets, are CEOs, fight wars and are heads of state around the world. To say a woman may not preach is blockheaded.
What is blockheaded is to equate apples with pears and then attempt to fly in the face of Scripture and theological reasoning offered in passages such as:
1 Tim 2 12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. 15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.