members, click to sign in..

4,656 active users!!Bandwidth
WEDNESDAY
AUG 27, 2014
Home
NewsSITE
Events & Blogs
New Audio & Video
Broadcasters
Local Church Finder
Webcast LIVE NOW!
Sermons by Bible
Sermons by Topic
Sermons by Speaker
Sermons by Date
Staff Picks
CommentsALL -2 hrs
Top Sermons
VideosPDFs
Daily Log
PhotosNew Stuff!
StoresNew Stuff!
Online Bible
Hymnal
Daily Reading
Our Services
Submit Sermon
Members Only

 
RELIGION, CURRENT EVENTS, TECHNOLOGY Subscribe to the breaking newsWhat is RSS?
FRONT PAGE  |  8/27/2014
Choice News THURSDAY, FEB 20, 2014  |  12 comments  |  1 commentary
Texas Presbyterian Megachurch Considering Split From Presbyterian Church (USA)

First Presbyterian Church of Houston, founded in the 1840s with an estimated 3,000 members, will vote on a measure to terminate its affiliation with the denomination next Sunday.

Jim Birchfield, senior pastor at First Presbyterian, told The Christian Post that if the congregation votes to disaffiliate, it intends to join the new, more conservative Evangelical Covenant Order of Presbyterians.

"We believe that affiliation with ECO will better allow us to fulfill our mission of 'carrying the gospel to Houston and the world'," said Birchfield. "ECO believes in living out the whole of the Great Commission -- including evangelism, spiritual formation, compassion and redemptive justice. Thus, the mission of ECO clearly supports FPC's mission to carry the gospel to Houston and the world and aligns well with our goal of becoming a more Gospel-centered, missional church as defined in Vision 2020." ...


CLICK HERE to Read Entire Article
www.christianpost.com

|  FOCUS  |  Audio commentaries on this news item | more..
Megachurch Considering Split • 170+
Mohan Krishna | Garfield Ridge Baptist Church
Play! | RSS

   05/26/14  |  Conservative United Methodists say divide over sexuality is... • 5 comments
   05/22/14  |  Tullian Tchividjian Blasts Sovereign Grace Ministries Handling... • 34 comments
   05/17/14  |  NRB Forces Out WaterBrook Multnomah Publishers Over Sister... • 1 comments
   05/06/14  |  Major Ministry Kicked Out of Evangelical Alliance UK over... • 4 comments
   03/20/14  |  Staffers Offer to Sacrifice Homes, Salaries Over ‘Who Jesus Is’ • 1 comments
MORE RELATED ( SEPARATION ) NEWS | MORE..
   08/20/14  |  Legal-Courts Same-sex 'marriage' freight train derailed in Tenn. • 2 comments
   08/18/14  |  Former FBI says only way to defeat Islam is to crush it • 38 comments
   08/17/14  |  Creation Museum breaks ground on Noah's Ark project • 10 comments
   08/15/14  |  More Unmarried New Moms Cohabiting • 11 comments
   08/12/14  |  5-Year-Old Christian Boy Cut in Half by ISIS Terrorists • 17 comments
OTHER CHOICE NEWS | MORE..
   06/02/14  |  A Letter to SermonAudio From a Missionary to Haiti • 10 comments
   02/07/14  |  Bringing the Gospel of John to Every Home in Austin, TX • 31 comments
   01/07/14  |  SermonAudio Partners with RFC for the 2014 Family Conference at... • 1 comments
   01/01/14  |  Happy New Year from SermonAudio! • 29 comments
   12/10/13  |  SermonAudio Broadcaster Loses Historic Church Building To Fire • 3 comments
OTHER CHOICE NEWS | MORE..
   08/27/14  |  Push to ordain Mormon women leads to excommunication
   08/27/14  |  Opposing views on homeschool regulation • 6 comments
   08/27/14  |  Charlotte's Largest Church Puts Pastor on Leave After Back to... • 1 comments
   08/27/14  |  Sex education should begin at seven? • 2 comments
   08/27/14  |  Jimmy Carter Keynoting Muslim Convention in Detroit • 1 comments
OTHER RECENT NEWS | MORE..

COMMENTS | show all | add new  
    Sorting Order:  
· Page 1 ·  Found: 12 user comment(s)
News Item8/22/14 6:22 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
• Posted 5 days ago
• Add new comment
• Reply to comment
• Report abuse
• Show All Comments
PN, one problem with this new denomination is that they allow women preachers. since retirement funds are usually based at least in part on the value of the property that a church denomination owns, there is a good chance they would have to pay something.

Penny, one of the better opinion pieces on Zionism was published in The Wall Street Journal it is well worth reading. In Defense of Zionism. The Wall Street Journal made this excellent opinion piece public. I'm glad that they did it. Because one of Israelis own wrote it. How long it will be public is anyone's guess.

I am rather surprised that I put up this one before with a slightly different title. I am even more surprised that that one is visible without any . But, it is still a good article and well worth mentioning. Besides I was able to get PN's questions somewhat answered.

12

News Item8/2/14 5:22 PM
Post Nasaldrip | Anywhere, USA  Find all comments by Post Nasaldrip
I wonder if they will have to pay anything to the national denomination to make the split official. I remember a similar story from California that emphasized the cost of leaving. Property matters in these church disputes.
They say they could not evangelize the world being in that denomination; I don't know why it would stop them. I think there are other issues, like women in leadership positions, gay marriages, etc.
11

News Item8/2/14 4:15 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Penny, there are some things that tablets are not the best at doing, like getting information, sometimes quickly and being able to organize all that on a big screen and using a full-size keyboard. By the time you hook those up -- to some tablets, and a lot of them you just can't do that-- you have a laptop or desktop kludged together clone anyway.

However this really isn't a lot of information but it gives also what happened to the Jews and Christians in Arabia, before the 20th century. So go through the ISBE article on Arabia. If you like history it is really fascinating reading.

Arabians (and Arabs) gives details about Arabia, and also about Arabs, and the various religious folk that populated Arabia, etc. I find it a little too friendly to them, but then you might like what is said then? Anyway, I would suggest that you also read, Who are the Palestinians?, which gives a more detailed picture of the West Bank and Gaza.

10

News Item8/2/14 1:05 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Penny, you really ought to read... In Defense of Zionism.
Penny, not only read this again, but the following also.

The Jews took no one's land an article I have yet to get you to read yet, Penny. From which I will quote:

'As the Jews came, drained the swamps and made the deserts bloom, something interesting began to happen. Arabs followed. I don't blame them. They had good reason to come. They came for jobs. They came for prosperity. They came for freedom. And they came in large numbers.

'Winston Churchill observed in 1939: "So far from being persecuted, the Arabs have crowded into the country and multiplied till their population has increased more than even all world Jewry could lift up the Jewish population." Then came 1948 and the great partition....'

' ...Those poor unfortunates could be settled in a week by the rich Arab oil states that control 99.9 percent of the Middle East landmass, but they are kept as virtual prisoners, filled with misplaced hatred for Jews and armed as suicide martyrs by the Arab power brokers.'

9

News Item8/2/14 10:25 AM
pennned  Find all comments by pennned
Jim, why can you not answer a simple question?

I will answer the question.

Yes, Palestinians are semites.

I'll tell you, you demand to take all the Palestinian land, that is a declaration of wore. Plain and simple. Then you want the Hamas terrorists, who were very likely in the beginning created by Israel as a counter to the Palestinian Authority, to stand down? Is this a Polyanna world where every fruit tree in the world is there just for you?

Israel is trapped by leaders who are trapped by their own ideologies. If they meet with Palestinians who want a peaceful society, those Palestinians will not want annihilation. They will want to live and have a government. Then Israel would have to stop taking their homes!!

And if they absorbed the Gazans into Israel to make a nation, then they would have a sizeable Islamic vote to contend with.

What a quagmire. makes you wonder who started this foolishness from the beginning??

They are stuck, because they begin first with this... we must have land. There is no give in that... so proceed Mr. Lincoln. The rapture theory is on trial. And when tribulation comes will the rapturists turn against the brethren in anger that they didn't get their rapture?

8

News Item8/2/14 1:44 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Penny, you really ought to read this article by a former Israeli ambassador to the United States. I think it will really give you a good view about what Zionism is to the secular to Jew at the very least. The Saturday Essay
In Defense of Zionism
.
7

News Item5/8/14 3:47 PM
penned  Find all comments by penned
Jim, aren't Palestinians semites? how then could recognizing their human value be antisemitical.... its beyond me. sounds more like politics with racism used as a tool, that's called race baiting.
6

News Item5/8/14 6:29 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
We have an idea where some in the PCUSA stand on Israel, q.v., The Malevolence of the ‘Zionism Unsettled’ Authors,
I wonder where ECO stands?
5

News Item2/25/14 2:43 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
It appears that the ECO plans to have women preachers? and what one Presbyterian said about that! Women Preachers. I don't know, yet, where they stand on Israel, but might wonder their gender neutral policy if they will have a positive outlook on Israel? Mosaic Magazine » Evangelicals and Israel.
4

News Item2/21/14 9:18 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
3

News Item2/20/14 8:35 PM
joe lee | usa  Find all comments by joe lee
In 10 years ECO will be where PCUSA is now. Hardly a dramatic move to a Biblical foundation.
2

News Item2/20/14 2:21 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
We can only hope this new organization is less anti-Semitic than the PCUSA is Presbyterians push back against church group’s anti-Zionist study guide
1
There are a total of 12 user comments displayed | add new comment |Subscribe to these comments
Last PostTotal
Michael Brown confessed Jesus as his Saviour in weeks before...
james thomas from florida: "http://www.mljtrust.org/serm..."
-1 hrs 112 
Smithsonian adds LGBT history to museum collection
observer from usa: "hey christopher how are you doing bro? i'm back home now...."
-3 hrs 145 
Why You May Want to Ditch Your Low-Fat Diet for Good
observer from usa: " jessica dawson i take a supplement of essential fatty acids,..."
-3 hrs 21 


Spurgeon's Daily - Aug 27 PM
Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Solid Rock Baptist Church

Play! | More

Mark Pannell
The Righteousness of God - 5

The Righteousness of God
Sunday Service
Eager Avenue Grace Church
Play! | MP4 | RSS

Christ Our Passover
Scott T. Brown

Ken Wimer
The Savior of Sinners

Gospel According to Luke
Shreveport Grace Church
Play! | MP3

Sponsor:
Emergency Food USA

Great tast­ing, healthy, GMO free emerg­ency food. Long term food and water stor­age.
www.emergencyfoodusa.com

Sponsor:
Pope Francis: Man of Peace? Free Video

Highl­ights & crit­iq­ues Pope Franc­is' pos­it­ions on Isr­ael, Islam, Hamas & much more!
www.puritandownloads.com/po..

Sermon:
America Revival Or Ruin
E. A. Johnston

Sykesville, MD | zip
Liberty Church, PCA

The den­om­in­at­ion of RC Sproul and Tim Kell­er.
www.libertychurchpca.org






                   
God never repents of His electing love. ... Thomas Watson

City: Austin, TX
Gospel of John
Cities | Local | Personal
MOBILE
iPhone + iPad New!
Church App
Android
Church App
Kindle + Nook
BlackBerry
Windows Mobile, Nokia
Chromecast TV
ROKU TV
Pebble Smartwatch
Kindle Reader


HELP
Knowledgebase
Broadcasters
Listeners
Q&A
Uploading Sermons
Uploading Videos
Webcasting
Tips & Tricks
YouTube Screencasts

FOLLOW
Weekly Newsletter
Staff Picks Feed
Site Notices
RSS | Twitter | Facebook
SERVICES | ALL
Local Church Finder | Info
MP3 Play & Download
Mobile Apps
Podcasting
Video Support
Live Webcasting
Transcription Service
HIFI Option
Business Cards
SOLO | MINI | Domains
Favorites
QR Codes
24x7 Radio Stream
INTEGRATION
Sermon Browser
HTML Codes
WordPress
Twitter
Facebook
Logos | e-Sword
SOAP API

BATCH
Transfer Agent
Protected Podcasts
Upload via Email
Auto-Upload Sermons
Auto-Blog Import
Picasa | FTP | Dropbox
ABOUT US
SermonAudio.com is the largest library of audio sermons from conservative churches and ministries worldwide. All broadcasters must adhere to the Articles of Faith.

Our Services | Testimonials
Broadcast With Us!
Support Us
Advertising | Local Ads
CONTACT
info@sermonaudio.com
Copyright © 2014 SermonAudio.com.