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WEDNESDAY, FEB 19, 2014  |  18 comments  |  1 commentary
Mexican Catholics find God in Islam

For almost five centuries Catholicism has been the dominant religion in Mexico.

In 1970, Catholics comprised 96.7 percent of Mexico’s population. By 2010, that number had fallen to 82.7 percent, according to the Pew Research Center. Most of this change is attributed to growth in other Christian denominations. Evangelicals, Protestants and Jehovah’s Witnesses now account for 8 percent of Mexicans who identify with a religion.

And a small yet growing group of converts are seeking spiritual salvation in Islam. In fact, Pew estimates Mexico will be home to 126,000 Muslims by 2030, up from 111,000 in 2010.

Why are some Mexicans leaving the Catholic Church and converting? ...


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Mr b  Find all comments by Mr b
Wow, they went from bad to worse. But lets open that border wide.... hope, change, foward...
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News Item2/20/14 1:18 PM
Former Roman Catholic Cultist  Find all comments by Former Roman Catholic Cultist
This Is ALL Just The "Religious" Devil/Demon-Spirits OF MOHAMMEDANISM OR "ISLAM" ***Re-Possessing*** The Already Spiritually Lost Mexican-Roman-"Catholic"-Cultists With The Devil/Demon-Spirits Of The Moon-god "ALLAH" **From** The "Religious" Devil/Demon-Spirits OF SATANIC~VATICANISM & ROMAN-"CATHOLICISM" Of The Sun-god "BAAL" !

"When The Unclean Spirit (Of 'Religious' Satanic~Vaticanism & Roman-'Catholicism') Is Gone Out Of A (Spiritually Lost & Non-Born-Again Roman-'Catholic'-Mexican) Man (Woman-Or-Young Adult), He Walketh Through Dry Places, Seeking Rest; And Finding None, He Saith, I Will Return Unto My (Satanic~Vaticanist & Roman-'Catholic'-Cultic) House Whence I Came Out.

And When He Cometh, He Findeth It Swept And Garnished.

Then Goeth He, And Taketh To Him Seven Other ('Religious') Spirits (Of Satanic~Mohammedanism Or 'Muslim'-Islamism') More Wicked Than Himself; And They Enter In (The Spiritually Lost & Non-Born-Again Roman-'Catholic'-Mexican Man-Woman-Or-Young-Adult) And Dwell There: And The Last State Of That (Roman-'Catholic'-Mexican) Man (Woman-Or-Young-Adult) Is Worse Than The First."--Luke 11:24-26

"EVEN SO SHALL IT BE ALSO UNTO THIS WICKED (MEXICAN) GENERATION."--MATTHEW 12:45e !

*A True Born-Again Former Roman-"Catholic" Cultist Of Mexican Descent !

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News Item2/20/14 5:39 AM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Juyon wrote:
John Yurich could join the Muslims to go on the Hajj pilgrimage to Mecca for a break.
What is this nonsense that I could join the Muslims to go on the Hajj pilgrimage to Mecca for a break? I worship Jesus as God and I have utter contempt for the religion of Islam.

Michael H., John Paul II was suffering from temporary insanity to have made that ridiculous statement. And I was never taught in religious education class when I was growing up that the god of Islam is the same as the God of the Bible. My parents didn't even believe that. And no priest that has ever been at my local Catholic Church has ever believed that either.

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News Item2/19/14 3:29 PM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Like the last paragraph, Frank. I was stopping by to say that as John and Steve said, technically, it is the same Christ, the same person, that is, that the Roman church claims to worship, but it boils down to their true regard for Him and His rightful place. Even though it's the same person, they view him as weak, diminished, and in need of Mary to hold his head up. Christ is not the head of the church...Mary is with Christ being subservient to her, unable to resist her pleas (orders really), etc. This has been proven over and over by the churches own doctrines and dogmas. No, there's not a paragraph anywhere within church writings that say this specifically, but as scripture interprets scripture, so does Romes doctrines, dogmas, and rituals reveal who she really is as a whole and what she truly thinks of Christs sovereignty, finished work, etc.
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News Item2/19/14 2:53 PM
Juyon  Find all comments by Juyon
Another place the Muslims can recruit for suicide bombers.

I suppose there is not a huge difference between the Roman Catholic god and Allah! So transferring allegiance from one to the other is only a change of human mind. The end result will be the same salvation by works, idolatry, blasphemy and human ideology.

John Yurich could join the Muslims to go on the Hajj pilgrimage to Mecca for a break.

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News Item2/19/14 2:11 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Interesting comment, Frank.

I would also point out a lot of this growth looks like it's from the birthrate rather than conscious conversion. Of course if any of them don't convert to Christianity they are still lost.

The Catholic leadership, has a hard time making up its mind about Islam, like Bishop Sheen did, q.v., Understanding Islam and Roman Catholicism. One would have to say much of the Inadequacy of Islam is also true of Catholicism.

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News Item2/19/14 11:26 AM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
Pius XII in the encyclical MYSTICI CORPORIS and Pius IX declared (as quoted in FUNDAMENTALS OF CATHOLIC DOGMA, page 312): "By Faith it is firmly held that outside the Apostolic Roman Church none can achieve salvation. This is the only ark of salvation. He who does not enter into it will perish in the flood. Nevertheless equally certain, it is to be held that those who suffer from invincible ignorance of this true religion, are not for this reason guilty in the eyes of the Lord."

The real issue to the RCC and its magisterium is not what someone thinks of Christ, but what they think of the RCC.

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News Item2/19/14 9:17 AM
Michael Hranek | Chickamauga, GA for the moment  Protected NameFind all comments by Michael Hranek
SteveR wrote:
The RCC clearly worship Jesus as the Christ
SteveR
I guess and it would be an intelligent guess this is one of those places that where the natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, whose genuine ministry in the life of a believer of glorifying Jesus Christ, and so much more as well.

in this case not having a clue about true worship of God and of His Son Jesus Christ in the beauty of holiness

NOT in the ugliness of confusing Jesus Christ with Allah and Mariolotry

btw once again
Love, the genuine love of God the Holy Spirit pours out in the heart of the believer, can tell you someone desires your best, the genuine eternal life that is experiencially found in Christ AND AT THE SAME TIME while hoping your best, giving you the right to have your own way even if that takes you to hell against both the will of God and of His people too.

John Y
you didn't need your priest to tell you this, your late beloved Pope John Paul 6 DID!
ccc 841

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News Item2/19/14 9:10 AM
JohnYurich USA | USA  Find all comments by JohnYurich USA
Michael Hranek wrote:
Really???
Let me ask you to really think and ask yourself, how evil does the leadership of the RCC have to be to adore Allah with the Muslims? Or perhaps a better question anyone of us might ask ourselves honestly and humbly in the presence of God, "Am I evil? Am I pretending that I am a good person when I am wicked? Do I really know Jesus Christ or only pretend that I do?"
Love can tell you someone desires your best, the genuine eternal life that is experiencially found in Christ AND AT THE SAME TIME while hoping your best, giving you the right to have your own way even if that takes you to hell against both the will of God and of His people too.
I have never heard any Catholic priest that has been at my local Catholic Church state that Catholics are to adore Allah the god of Islam. Nor have I heard any Catholic priest that has been at my local Catholic Church state that the god of Islam is the same as the God of the Bible. I was never taught that in religious education class after school when I was in elementary school. My parents didn't believe that either.
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News Item2/19/14 9:06 AM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
JohnYurich USA wrote:
The Apostles and Nicene Creeds which are the Statement of Faith of the RCC states "WE BELIEVE IN ONE LORD JESUS CHRIST THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD" which is the biblical and historical Jesus that the RCC worships. Normal Evangelical Protestants believe that the RCC worships the biblical and historical Jesus because they are not insane and are capable of comprehension abilities. My Born Again Non Denominational brother and my Independent
Agree
The RCC clearly worship Jesus as the Christ, & are his people. As the RCC states per Michael, anyone in the Abrahamic religions can reach salvation by keeping the Mosaic Law perfectly. The RCC says the same about Jews. Since you, I and other Christians cant keep the Law perfectly, we trust in our LORD Christ Jesus. If Muslims or Jews dont need a savior, they can try to obtain salvation by their works.

Deuteronomy 27:26 Cursed be he that confirmeth not all the words of this law to do them. And all the people shall say, Amen.

btw: Poor article to create racial animosity and false pride by some here as the growth rate of Islam conversions in the USA is higher. Further by that articles estimation, Islam only grows at Mexicos growth rate...only a total of .1% of their population

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News Item2/19/14 9:04 AM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Protected NameFind all comments by Michael Hranek
JohnYurich USA wrote:
The Apostles and Nicene Creeds which are the Statement of Faith of the RCC states "WE BELIEVE IN ONE LORD JESUS CHRIST THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD" which is the biblical and historical Jesus that the RCC worships. Normal Evangelical Protestants believe that the RCC worships the biblical and historical Jesus because they are not insane and are capable of comprehension abilities. My Born Again Non Denominational brother and my Independent Baptist friend both believe that the RCC worships the biblical and historical Jesus.
Really???
Let me ask you to really think and ask yourself, how evil does the leadership of the RCC have to be to adore Allah with the Muslims? Or perhaps a better question anyone of us might ask ourselves honestly and humbly in the presence of God, "Am I evil? Am I pretending that I am a good person when I am wicked? Do I really know Jesus Christ or only pretend that I do?"

Love can tell you someone desires your best, the genuine eternal life that is experiencially found in Christ AND AT THE SAME TIME while hoping your best, giving you the right to have your own way even if that takes you to hell against both the will of God and of His people too.

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News Item2/19/14 8:50 AM
JohnYurich USA | USA  Find all comments by JohnYurich USA
Michael Hranek wrote:
John Yurich
No! The RCC don't worship Jesus in the first place.
The Apostles and Nicene Creeds which are the Statement of Faith of the RCC states "WE BELIEVE IN ONE LORD JESUS CHRIST THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD" which is the biblical and historical Jesus that the RCC worships. Normal Evangelical Protestants believe that the RCC worships the biblical and historical Jesus because they are not insane and are capable of comprehension abilities. My Born Again Non Denominational brother and my Independent Baptist friend both believe that the RCC worships the biblical and historical Jesus.
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News Item2/19/14 8:39 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Good post, Michael. I'm glad you brought up the Islam angle and how the religion is viewed as a basic partnership.
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News Item2/19/14 8:03 AM
Michael Hranek | Chickamauga, GA for the moment  Protected NameFind all comments by Michael Hranek
JohnYurich USA wrote:
Why would any Catholic want to cease worshipping Jesus as God in the Catholic Church and switch to worshipping Satan in Islam? The answer is
John Yurich
No! The RCC don't worship Jesus in the first place.

Haven't you ever seen whom the leadership of the RCC tells you they worship

From Catechism of the Catholic Church
Officially Approved by Pope John Paul II

841 The Church’ relationship with the Muslims. “The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind’s judge on the last day.”

Using your word "insane"
How "insane", evil might be a far better word, do the leaders of the RCC need to be to adore (worship)
the very false god of a lying, murderous, demon possessed pedophile, who according to Muslims themselves consumated his marriage to his favorite wife Aisha when she was 9 years old (some say 10)

AND wickedly pretend this god, Allah who has no son is
Jehovah, the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who is our Creator, all things created by Him and for Him?

A matter that leaves Catholic people blind to Islam

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News Item2/19/14 6:52 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Roman Catholics only worship Christ in theory, John. No person can claim to worship Christ, and at the same time worship abd pray to Mary, pray to saints, pray for the dead, believe in a Purgatory, worship the host, resacrifice Christ at each Mass, rely upon a priest for forgiveness, believe Christs work on the cross wasn't sufficient, believe that unbiblical traditions are equal to and even trump the Word of God, believe that without Mary and the church, salvation is impossible, believe that a Pope is basically Christ on earth, believe that grace alone is not sufficient, believe that a priest can pull Christ Himself out from Heaven and into a wafer, believe that vain rituals bring us closer to God, believe that Christ cannot resist Marys pleas, and I could go on and on...
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News Item2/19/14 5:31 AM
JohnYurich USA | USA  Find all comments by JohnYurich USA
Why would any Catholic want to cease worshipping Jesus as God in the Catholic Church and switch to worshipping Satan in Islam? The answer is because they would have to be seriously mentally deranged. There is no other logical explanation. Same thing with someone raised to worship Jesus as God converting to Judaism. Judaism worships Satan if it doesn't worship Jesus as God. Either one worships Jesus as God or one worships Satan.
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News Item2/19/14 1:52 AM
Dwayne  Find all comments by Dwayne
Killing people who are "infidels" is certainly not beautiful in my opinion. Jesus teachings are way more beautiful. And the bible is such a proven book by prophesy that the quaran will never even come close to comparing with it. Islam is not a religion of peace but one of terror.
The bible is true and the only way to God the father is through Jesus Christ.
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All there  Find all comments by All there
“I realized it’s [Islam] a beautiful religion. Everything about it makes sense,” Alamilla said. “There’s an answer to every single question the I’ve ever had in the Koran or in the Sunna.”
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