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THURSDAY, FEB 13, 2014  |  178 comments  |  1 commentary
Majority of Single Christians Reject Idea of Waiting for Marriage to Have Sex

A majority of single Christians are rejecting biblical doctrine by choosing to have sex before they are married. Sixty-one percent of self-identified Christian singles who answered a recent Christian Mingle survey said they are willing to have casual sex without being in love, while only 11 percent said they are waiting to have sex for when they are married.

In an interview with The Christian Post, two Christian Millennials share their diverse stories on faith, sex and marriage, and explain why many singles are battling against the "purity culture" of their youth.

When Heather Lindsey moved to New York City in 2004 at the age of 22, the Michigan native both attended church regularly and considered herself a Christian.

While Lindsey grew up in the church, she said it rarely emphasized reading the Bible or one's relationship with God. As an adolescent, her mother's only sex-ed advice was to use ...


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Cezar | Midwest  Find all comments by Cezar
1 Corinthians 6:9 (KJV)
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
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News Item2/25/14 12:45 PM
Observer  Find all comments by Observer
Unprofitable Servant wrote:
Hey Observer, good to see you commenting. You have been missed. I trust all is well with you. Thanks for the kind wish, and may God richest blessing be with you also. I Thessalonians 1:3
Remembering without ceasing your work of faith, and labour of love, and patience of hope in our Lord Jesus Christ, in the sight of God and our Father;
Hey UPS

Thanks bro for your kind words.

God is good to me and so I am doing well. Thank you for your concern.

I trust the Lord's prospering your soul and that all's well with your family.

Colossians 1

9 For this cause we also, since the day we heard it, do not cease to pray for you, and to desire that ye might be filled with the knowledge of his will in all wisdom and spiritual understanding;

10 That ye might walk worthy of the Lord unto all pleasing, being fruitful in every good work, and increasing in the knowledge of God;

11 Strengthened with all might, according to his glorious power, unto all patience and longsuffering with joyfulness...

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News Item2/22/14 4:54 PM
Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
Observer wrote:
So sorry to go off topic here, and apologies if this has been noted already (too long a thread for this oldie to bother reading through) but why's the article refer to youngsters who refuse not to sin as "Christian"?!
They must all have been converted the same way as JY methinks.
Amusing to see Presby still at his antics, and to see a couple of "Observer" imitators! I'm real touched.
Hi to everyone who knows me. Blessings to y'all.
Hey Observer, good to see you commenting. You have been missed. I trust all is well with you. Thanks for the kind wish, and may God richest blessing be with you also. I Thessalonians 1:3
Remembering without ceasing your work of faith, and labour of love, and patience of hope in our Lord Jesus Christ, in the sight of God and our Father;
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News Item2/21/14 7:11 PM
Observer  Find all comments by Observer
So sorry to go off topic here, and apologies if this has been noted already (too long a thread for this oldie to bother reading through) but why's the article refer to youngsters who refuse not to sin as "Christian"?!

They must all have been converted the same way as JY methinks.

Amusing to see Presby still at his antics, and to see a couple of "Observer" imitators! I'm real touched.

Hi to everyone who knows me. Blessings to y'all.

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News Item2/21/14 6:58 PM
cv  Find all comments by cv
How much water do you need wrote:
That's the whole problem CV.
Good exegesis and sound doctrine is missing from so many non-Calvinist Non-Presbyterian churches. Its sad! No wonder Liberalism is growing!
In the Older Testament, just compare, cumulatively: Gen 28:18; 35:14; Ex 4:9; 9:8-10,33; 12:7,21-23,37; 14:21-29; 15:8-10; 24:6-20; 29:7-21; 30:9f; Lev 1:5-11; 2:1-6; 3:2-13; 4:6-34; 5:9; 6:27; 7:2-14; 8:11-24; 9:9-18; 14:3-51; 16:14-19; 17:6-13; 21:10; .......
NT There, consult: Mt 3:1-17; Mk 7:1-8; Lk 1:15-17; 3:4-22; 11:38; 24:49; John 1:21-25,31-33; 3:22-26; 13:5-10; Acts 1:4f; 2:1-3,16-18,33,38f; 10:37-39,44-48; 11:15-17f; 19:5f; I Cor 1:16; 3:6-8; 6:11; 7:14 .......
For more :-
http://www.fivesolas.com/sprinkle.htm
"Sprinkling is Scriptural"
Quoting scripture isn't the problem.
The problem is tbat it has more to do with the price of bread in Tibet then it has to do with baby sprinkling
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News Item2/21/14 3:31 PM
Just an observation  Find all comments by Just an observation
How much water do you need wrote:
That's the whole problem CV.
Good exegesis and sound doctrine is missing from so many non-Calvinist Non-Presbyterian churches. Its sad! No wonder Liberalism is growing!
In the Older Testament, just compare, cumulatively: Gen 28:18; 35:14; Ex 4:9; 9:8-10,33; 12:7,21-23,37; 14:21-29; 15:8-10; 24:6-20; 29:7-21; 30:9f; Lev 1:5-11; 2:1-6; 3:2-13; 4:6-34; 5:9; 6:27; 7:2-14; 8:11-24; 9:9-18; 14:3-51; 16:14-19; 17:6-13; 21:10; .......
NT There, consult: Mt 3:1-17; Mk 7:1-8; Lk 1:15-17; 3:4-22; 11:38; 24:49; John 1:21-25,31-33; 3:22-26; 13:5-10; Acts 1:4f; 2:1-3,16-18,33,38f; 10:37-39,44-48; 11:15-17f; 19:5f; I Cor 1:16; 3:6-8; 6:11; 7:14 .......
For more :-
http://www.fivesolas.com/sprinkle.htm
"Sprinkling is Scriptural"
There are more poorly taught Presbys than there are Baptists. Imagine claiming to know the Bible and yet believing some cuckoo covenant with Abraham being the bond between the 2 Testaments! How ignorant!
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News Item2/21/14 2:21 PM
How much water do you need  Find all comments by How much water do you need
CV wrote:
I have NEVER seen ANY reference to baby sprinkling in ANY scripture they have EVER quoted.
That's the whole problem CV.
Good exegesis and sound doctrine is missing from so many non-Calvinist Non-Presbyterian churches. Its sad! No wonder Liberalism is growing!

In the Older Testament, just compare, cumulatively: Gen 28:18; 35:14; Ex 4:9; 9:8-10,33; 12:7,21-23,37; 14:21-29; 15:8-10; 24:6-20; 29:7-21; 30:9f; Lev 1:5-11; 2:1-6; 3:2-13; 4:6-34; 5:9; 6:27; 7:2-14; 8:11-24; 9:9-18; 14:3-51; 16:14-19; 17:6-13; 21:10; .......

NT There, consult: Mt 3:1-17; Mk 7:1-8; Lk 1:15-17; 3:4-22; 11:38; 24:49; John 1:21-25,31-33; 3:22-26; 13:5-10; Acts 1:4f; 2:1-3,16-18,33,38f; 10:37-39,44-48; 11:15-17f; 19:5f; I Cor 1:16; 3:6-8; 6:11; 7:14 .......

For more :-
http://www.fivesolas.com/sprinkle.htm
"Sprinkling is Scriptural"

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News Item2/21/14 2:07 PM
CV  Find all comments by CV
Be Wrath wrote:
against Presby scripture twisters, and their hogwash theology. Can anyone find any mention of the covenant with Abraham in Romans 4?
I have NEVER seen ANY reference to baby sprinkling in ANY scripture they have EVER quoted.
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News Item2/20/14 5:26 PM
Be Wrath  Find all comments by Be Wrath
B.Rith wrote:
...He then means that some ever remained in that nation, who by continuing to believe in the promise, had not fallen away from the privileges of the covenant" (J.Calvin on Romans 4:3)
against Presby scripture twisters, and their hogwash theology. Can anyone find any mention of the covenant with Abraham in Romans 4? This chapter is all about his faith and how he was justified.
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News Item2/20/14 5:11 PM
B.Rith  Find all comments by B.Rith
"For Paul’s inquiry is not so much whether the unbelief of men neutralizes the truth of God, so that it should not in itself remain firm and constant, but whether it hinders its effect and fulfillment as to men. The meaning then is, “Since most of the Jews are covenant-breakers, is God’s covenant so abrogated by their perfidiousness that it brings forth no fruit among them? To this he answers, that it cannot be that the truth of God should lose its stability through man’s wickedness. Though then the greater part had nullified and trodden under foot God’s covenant, it yet retained its efficacy and manifested its power, not indeed as to all, but with regard to a few of that nation: and it is then efficacious when the grace or the blessing of the Lord avails to eternal salvation. But this cannot be, except when the promise is received by faith; for it is in this way that a mutual covenant is on both sides confirmed. He then means that some ever remained in that nation, who by continuing to believe in the promise, had not fallen away from the privileges of the covenant" (J.Calvin on Romans 4:3)
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News Item2/19/14 4:35 PM
Cezar | Midwest  Find all comments by Cezar
They are not Christians.

1 Corinthians 6:18 (KJV)
18: Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.

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News Item2/19/14 11:45 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
All 5 points wrote:
1. Balance like temperance is so comely.
Evangelism is very important no one saved by grace would deny, as a grateful forgiven sinner they are wanting other poor sinners to come to Christ.

2. I have a desire for these, but also those who have come by grace and are left in the confusion of pluralism coming out of Babylon, they come out of the dark into confusion.

1. Glad to hear you say that.

2. Better a convert born to confusion yet bound for heaven, than a lost sinner hell-bound. We have to work with what we've got. If God is prepared to give the increase, we should be prepared to sow and water.

3. I'm glad the denominational confusion did not prevent my coming to know the Lord by his grace and mercy.

4. Howell Harris came to know the Lord while taking communion at his anglican church. The Spirit will work where he will, and the Lord knows what he does.

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News Item2/19/14 11:16 AM
Yea yeah yeah  Find all comments by Yea yeah yeah
All 5 points wrote:
confusion of pluralism coming out of Babylon
Your euphemism for enforced conformity!

How about you come out of your Babylonian church and become a Biblical Baptist?

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News Item2/19/14 11:02 AM
All 5 points  Find all comments by All 5 points
Balance like temperance is so comely.
Evangelism is very important no one saved by grace would deny, as a grateful forgiven sinner they are wanting other poor sinners to come to Christ.

I have a desire for these, but also those who have come by grace and are left in the confusion of pluralism coming out of Babylon, they come out of the dark into confusion.

Psalm 47 offers great hope for the generations to come. We have God's Word on it.
1 O clap your hands, all ye people; shout unto God with the voice of triumph.
2 For the Lord most high is terrible; he is a great King over all the earth.
3 He shall subdue the people under us, and the nations under our feet.
4 He shall choose our inheritance for us, the excellency of Jacob whom he loved. Selah.
5 God is gone up with a shout, the Lord with the sound of a trumpet.
6 Sing praises to God, sing praises: sing praises unto our King, sing praises.
7 For God is the King of all the earth: sing ye praises with understanding.
8 God reigneth over the heathen: God sitteth upon the throne of his holiness.
9 The princes of the people are gathered together, even the people of the God of Abraham: for the shields of the earth belong unto God: he is greatly exalted.

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John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
I suppose there is a place for trying to understand what God's purposes are in the preaching of the gospel. I have my own thoughts on this. But it would be nice if we Christians were to relegate such questions to the back burner until every man in the world had actually HEARD the gospel through which they could be saved if they believed.

Mark 16:15-16 KJV
15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

If men do not hear the gospel ever, we only theorise and play the armchair theologian, which benefits no-one. I find this VERY sad.

And so I exhort anyone who has the strength, wherewithal, and time, to devote their life to the propagation of the gospel, in whatever way they can, supporting their local church and minister. This can include open-air preaching and tracting and conversations, letterbox drops, financial support of missions, and the all-important prayer and intercession.

It is when we regain the missionary attitude of previous lamp-bearers, we shall see a return of blessing from the Lord, instead of the mundane churchianity we have grown so used to.

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News Item2/19/14 10:33 AM
All 5 points  Find all comments by All 5 points
edification wrote:
"It is quite true that archetypal hyper-Calvinism first appeared among the early English Strict and Particular Baptists. It can be seen, for example, in the teachings of men like Joseph Hussey (d. 1726), Lewis Wayman (d. 1764), John Brine (d. 1765), and to some extent in John Gill (d. 1771). However, the theological extreme held by these men, properly denoted as hyper-Calvinism and properly denoted as error, is rather distinct and certainly deserves a more explicit definition than merely an "over-emphasis of irresistible grace which undermines evangelism." And it certainly deserves to be defined in a way that does not confuse it with legitimate 5-point Calvinism." (J.Ellis)
Yes, that was clearly unto edification because it was clear and balanced and showed what hyper-calvinism is and not what the popular name calling asserts it is.

In my experience if one values a teacher of truth even though other speak of them as 'ists' derogatorily; it leaves the grateful student of the Word thankful to God for his gifts and they bear the name with joy, for God's kind condescension to his weak creature by his teacher. I've been called by Presbyterians so called a Steelite derogatorily, but I thank GOD for Mr. Steele's labours in the Word

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News Item2/19/14 10:29 AM
Unbiblical Presbyterianism  Find all comments by Unbiblical Presbyterianism
Michael Hranek wrote:
In His Sovereignty He decides who He will save (continuing to work in their lives even up to a death bed conversion) and in His righteousness and justice who has so suppressed the knowledge of the Truth (hardened their hearts against Him, after much rebuke like Pharoah) they have "crossed the line" where He no longer strives with them or for some who die early in this fallen world we are living in.. I think it is safe to say, we have much to learn and grow in regarding the Sovereignty of God and if we truly will know His Almighty Sovereignty that we must needs pray always and not ever give up on His Promises, especially the Truth He hears and answers prayer.
Great Answer Michael.

Agreed that we can but wonder and worship the Sovereign God who out of his great love will stoop to save such an unworthy wretch like me.

What you say of prayer is so true. For years before I was converted someone, unknown to me at the time, was praying for me. I remember going to a church to give my testimony. After the meeting there was this poor lady sobbing. I thought that my testimony had affected her. But after she had calmed down, she explained that she knew of me through my sister and had been praying for my salvation!! Imagine that!

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News Item2/19/14 10:20 AM
Michael Hranek | Chickamauga, GA for the moment  Protected NameFind all comments by Michael Hranek
Unbiblical Presbyterianism wrote:
Nail on the head Michael!
So why doesn't everyone come in whom God is thus working?
UnB Presbyterianism
I think we might need to come to a stop here and face the reality as finite human beings we are simply unable to fully comprehend the totality of the infinite God and His ways but instead by His grace to worship and serve Him

because
In His Sovereignty He decides who He will save (continuing to work in their lives even up to a death bed conversion) and in His righteousness and justice who has so suppressed the knowledge of the Truth (hardened their hearts against Him, after much rebuke like Pharoah) they have "crossed the line" where He no longer strives with them or for some who die early in this fallen world we are living in. All this in the light of no one, other than those who have blasphemed the Holy Spirit, is beyond His saving, as He has demonstrated in the life of Saul of Tarsus.

I think it is safe to say, we have much to learn and grow in regarding the Sovereignty of God
and if we truly will know His Almighty Sovereignty that we must needs pray always and not ever give up on His Promises, especially the Truth He hears and answers prayer.

PART of your WHY being, people fail to "pray through"

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News Item2/19/14 10:06 AM
Unbiblical Presbyterianism  Find all comments by Unbiblical Presbyterianism
Michael Hranek wrote:
.....God Himself working in their lives for their repentance and saving faith
.....
Nail on the head Michael!

So why doesn't everyone come, in whom God is thus working?

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edification  Find all comments by edification
"It is quite true that archetypal hyper-Calvinism first appeared among the early English Strict and Particular Baptists. It can be seen, for example, in the teachings of men like Joseph Hussey (d. 1726), Lewis Wayman (d. 1764), John Brine (d. 1765), and to some extent in John Gill (d. 1771). However, the theological extreme held by these men, properly denoted as hyper-Calvinism and properly denoted as error, is rather distinct and certainly deserves a more explicit definition than merely an "over-emphasis of irresistible grace which undermines evangelism." And it certainly deserves to be defined in a way that does not confuse it with legitimate 5-point Calvinism." (J.Ellis)

"Hyper-Calvinism is the denial that God in the preaching of the gospel calls everyone who hears the preaching to repent and believe. It is the denial that the church should call everyone in the preaching. It is the denial that the unregenerated have a duty to repent and believe. It manifests itself in the practice of the preacher's addressing the call of the gospel, "repent and believe on Christ crucified," only to those in his audience who show signs of regeneration and, thereby, of election, namely, some conviction of sin and some interest in salvation" (D.Englesma)

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