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Choice News FRIDAY, FEB 7, 2014  |  102 comments
Southern States Dominate Top 10 Most Religious States, New England the Least Pious
Gallup has released the results of their recent polls on religion in America, showing that the country is still a religious nation, with nearly seven in ten Americans being classified as very or moderately religious.

Certain states are recognized as being the “Most Religious,” they are:

1. Mississippi


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News Item2/14/14 2:00 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
John Y., ah, now if we just could get you think about a few things Lordship Salvation: What Must a True Believer, Believes. Shirley Temple Black, was as interesting as a hard driving adult as she was a child actress, but then there's a thread on her elsewhere on SA.

By the way, to point out that Mississippi is one of the more immoral states in the country, as indeed much of the South, see, What's fueling Bible Belt divorces.

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News Item2/12/14 6:52 AM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Who cares! wrote:
This is not the forum for discussing Hollywood types and their demise!
Whoever you are why don't you think before you write something? SermonAudio by posting a news article about Temple's demise doesn't think insane like someone on here who didn't think before posting the previous post under the moniker of Who cares!.
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News Item2/11/14 8:15 PM
Who cares!  Find all comments by Who cares!
This is not the forum for discussing Hollywood types and their demise!
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News Item2/11/14 7:12 PM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Breaking news-Shirley Temple passes away at 85. Temple's movies were entirely wholesome. I don't believe there is anybody who doesn't know who Temple was.
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News Item2/11/14 6:10 PM
Duh  Find all comments by Duh
Answer to John UK from Calvin's Institutes:

"Baptism serves as our confession before men, inasmuch as it is a mark by which we openly declare that we wish to be ranked among the people of God, by which we testify that we concur with all Christians in the worship of one God, and in one religion; by which, in short, we publicly assert our faith, so that not only do our hearts breathe, but our tongues also, and all the members of our body, in every way they can, proclaim the praise of God. In this way, as is meet, everything we have is made subservient to the glory of God, which ought everywhere to be displayed, and others are stimulated by our example to the same course....

Paul says to the Galatians, “As many of you as have been baptised into Christ have put on Christ” (Gal. 3:27). Why so? That they might thereafter live to Christ, to whom previously they had not lived. And though, in adults, the receiving of the sign ought to follow the understanding of its meaning, yet, as will shortly be explained, a different rule must be followed with Children...."

Of course he would say a different rule must be followed with Children, because he wanted to make them part of the church and since he viewed baptism as an initiatory rite, they had to have it to be part of the church!

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News Item2/11/14 5:03 PM
A Christian  Find all comments by A Christian
I am one who post regularly...so I prefer to remain anonymous on this post.
In reading these posts it is just what my spouse and myself have been through with Reformed people and Baptist.One pastor broke fellowship with us because we questioned infant sprinkling and the other pastor broke fellowship because we believe the bible teaches the doctrines of grace...and he considered us those "stinking" Calvinists. So I'm sure God is really being glorified in all of this
Just my experience that I wanted to share.
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News Item2/11/14 5:01 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
It seems to me that when the grace of God is active in lives, it is actually quite visible; well, according to God it is, being in his word and all.

Acts 11:23-24 KJV
23 Who, when he came, and had seen the grace of God, was glad, and exhorted them all, that with purpose of heart they would cleave unto the Lord.
24 For he was a good man, and full of the Holy Ghost and of faith: and much people was added unto the Lord.

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News Item2/11/14 4:39 PM
Duh  Find all comments by Duh
By the Book wrote:
I have presented ALL the Biblical arguments on the Covenant of Grace which God made everlasting, and how circumcision is the precursor to baptism, and the establishment of these points from the NT. All you did was present malice, hate and contempt. As a Christian I don't want to exhibit that side of Baptist ideology on the threads again.
You should read Calvin's institutes and the section on Baptism. You might be surprised at his unchristian attitude to those who didn't agree with him. In fact the scorn and derision you exhibit is typical of his writings too. So please do me a favor and quit the sanctimonious attitude.
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News Item2/11/14 3:57 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Are there any other Presbys apart from Multi-Moniker Man, who could answer my simple question?

Or is everyone else on these threads of Baptist persuasion?

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News Item2/11/14 3:22 PM
perceptive puritan  Find all comments by perceptive puritan
The Covenant of Grace as ordained by God.

"1. If they have any interest in it, it is either in its grace or in its administration. If they have the former, they have the latter also, as shall be proved at any time. If they have neither, they have no interest in it; – then the truth of the promises of God made unto the fathers was not confirmed by Christ.

2. That unto whom the covenant or promise doth belong, to them belongs the administration of the initial seal of it, is expressly declared by the apostle, Acts ii. 38, 39, be they who they will.

3. The truth of God’s promises is not confirmed if the sign and seal of them be denied; for that whereon they believed that God was a God unto their seed as well as unto themselves was this, that he granted the token of the covenant unto their seed as well as unto themselves. If this be taken away by Christ, their faith is overthrown, and the promise itself is not confirmed but weakened, as to the virtue it hath to beget faith and obedience." (John Owen)
http://www.covenantofgrace.com/owen_infant_baptism.htm

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News Item2/11/14 3:06 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
inculcate wrote:
There are no professions of faith in the Bible which provide authenticity to the ceremony of baptism.
So if, in the unlikely event you have someone converted in your church building, you would not baptise them?

This gets weirder and weirder.

p.s. Are there any other Presbys apart from Multi-Moniker Man, who could answer my simple question?

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News Item2/11/14 3:04 PM
inculcate  Find all comments by inculcate
John UK wrote:
Ahem, the question was: "So how do Presby churches decide whether or not to baptise a professing new convert?"
What have babies to do with such a question?
We were talking about the Chancellor of the Exchequer of Ethiopia, an adult.
So do you have an answer? If not, just say so, and we can move on.
There are no professions of faith in the Bible which provide authenticity to the ceremony of baptism.
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News Item2/11/14 2:59 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
By the Book wrote:
Biblical paedobaptism is practiced by Presbyterian Churches. Thus establishing our commitment to the whole counsel of God - As God has commanded. Our commitment to the Old Testament and the New is therefore demonstrated and has been since the Lord and His Apostles left us with the Bible doctrines which we apply and obey.
Ahem, the question was: "So how do Presby churches decide whether or not to baptise a professing new convert?"

What have babies to do with such a question?

We were talking about the Chancellor of the Exchequer of Ethiopia, an adult.

So do you have an answer? If not, just say so, and we can move on.

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News Item2/11/14 2:54 PM
By the Book  Find all comments by By the Book
Duh wrote:
And before you start again with your mindless Abrahamic covenant argument stop and think what justification you have to equate circumcision with baptism. Present your arguments from the NT and I will endeavour to prove to you how absurd they are, assuming that you care one iota for the truth, which somehow I doubt.
I have presented ALL the Biblical arguments on the Covenant of Grace which God made everlasting, and how circumcision is the precursor to baptism, and the establishment of these points from the NT. All you did was present malice, hate and contempt. As a Christian I don't want to exhibit that side of Baptist ideology on the threads again.

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John UK wrote:
So how do Presby churches decide whether or not to baptise a professing new convert?
Biblical paedobaptism is practiced by Presbyterian Churches. Thus establishing our commitment to the whole counsel of God - As God has commanded. Our commitment to the Old Testament and the New is therefore demonstrated and has been since the Lord and His Apostles left us with the Bible doctrines which we apply and obey.
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News Item2/11/14 12:56 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Ruvale wrote:
There are no professions of faith in the Bible which provide authenticity to the ceremony of baptism.
So how do Presby churches decide whether or not to baptise a professing new convert?
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News Item2/11/14 12:49 PM
Duh  Find all comments by Duh
Ruvale wrote:
The reason why the Eunuch is a favourite with the Baptists is discrimination of infants.
How is it discrimination if it is NOT commanded?

Rather what you practice, you have no command or example for and therefore you break your own precious Regulative principle. You act presumptuously and one day you will have to account to The Lord for such presumption. How you think you differ on this from Nadab and Abihu is beyond me.

And before you start again with your mindless Abrahamic covenant argument stop and think what justification you have to equate circumcision with baptism. Present your arguments from the NT and I will endeavour to prove to you how absurd they are, assuming that you care one iota for the truth, which somehow I doubt.

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News Item2/11/14 12:38 PM
Ruvale  Find all comments by Ruvale
John UK wrote:
Probably they would have held the Ethiopian eunuch as a reprobate for being immersed on such a flimsy profession of faith.
There are no professions of faith in the Bible which provide authenticity to the ceremony of baptism.

The reason why the Eunuch is a favourite with the Baptists is discrimination of infants. Eunuchs and Baptists have this concord in common with each other. For different reasons.

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Question wrote:
If we imitate your father in the faith Calvin
Only Biblical Christians can 'imitate' Calvin - Because of Biblical doctrine agreement.
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News Item2/11/14 12:00 PM
Question  Find all comments by Question
olways wrote:
Perhaps he should be like the local Baptists who post regular juvenile contempt and scorn - And believe that it is debate!!!
If we imitate your father in the faith Calvin and your local Presby rep we're being juvenile, scornful and contemptuous? That figures
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News Item2/11/14 11:57 AM
olways  Find all comments by olways
Question wrote:
Persecution comes easy to him, because he can justify it in the name of Calvin.
Perhaps he should be like the local Baptists who post regular juvenile contempt and scorn - And believe that it is debate!!!
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News Item2/10/14 6:08 PM
Question  Find all comments by Question
John UK wrote:
Yes, my guess is that he gets it from reading all those old books which commended persecution of anyone not holding precisely what they held. Probably they would have held the Ethiopian eunuch as a reprobate for being immersed on such a flimsy profession of faith.
I think he gets all his knowledge by just reading all those old works. His faith is not in the word of God, but in his library of books.

This could explain why he finds it so difficult to explain the Scriptures in his own words. He has no thoughts of his own. They are all derived from dead authors.

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