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FRONT PAGE  |  9/20/2017
WEDNESDAY, FEB 5, 2014  |  19 comments
Pope: 'unjust' unemployment can mean sin, suicide
Pope Francis extolled the benefits of sharing wealth with the poor on Tuesday, warning that "unjust" social conditions like unemployment can lead to sin, financial ruin and even suicide.

The Jesuit pope has frequently railed about the excesses of capitalism and income disparity in a globalized world, and his message for Lent issued Tuesday echoed those same concerns.


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Strat  Find all comments by Strat
a sheep wrote:
Yes, it does and I'd like to ask your forgiveness. I never responded to a question you asked on another thread as I stated I would. Then I said something to UPS that I should have said to you. Forgive me?
The bible over and over again offers people the choice of blessing and prosperity for righteousness and holiness and cursing for disobedience and evil,and only in our twisted and distorted times do people choose cursing and call themselves better Christians for it....hoping to score holy points and earn their way to heaven.

There is only one kind of suffering that brings reward,suffering for the gospel of Jesus Christ,all other suffering comes from a fallen world,fallen people or it is self inflicted and no reward is ever promised for it,every life has sorrow and pain no matter how blessed.

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News Item2/6/14 10:25 AM
a sheep  Find all comments by a sheep
Strat wrote:
The bible does not teach universal poverty,it teaches righteousness and holiness and the blessings of such...
Yes, it does and I'd like to ask your forgiveness. I never responded to a question you asked on another thread as I stated I would. Then I said something to UPS that I should have said to you. Forgive me?
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News Item2/6/14 10:07 AM
NRC  Find all comments by NRC
Jethro wrote:
Troll:-
(in Scandinavian folklore) any of a race of supernatural beings, sometimes conceived as giants and sometimes as dwarfs, inhabiting caves or subterranean dwellings.
2. Slang. a person who lives or sleeps in a park or under a viaduct or bridge, as a bag lady or derelict.
You have some strange experiences in New York Mike
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News Item2/6/14 10:04 AM
Jethro  Find all comments by Jethro
Mike wrote:
Trolls are people, too.
Troll:-
(in Scandinavian folklore) any of a race of supernatural beings, sometimes conceived as giants and sometimes as dwarfs, inhabiting caves or subterranean dwellings.
2. Slang. a person who lives or sleeps in a park or under a viaduct or bridge, as a bag lady or derelict.

You have some strange experiences in New York Mike

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News Item2/6/14 9:57 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
NRC wrote:
Why keep feeding the trolls???
Trolls are people, too.
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News Item2/6/14 9:18 AM
NRC  Find all comments by NRC
Why keep feeding the trolls???
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News Item2/6/14 8:32 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
John Yurich Wrote:
...I would go to the bathroom during the sermon...

Is the truth of God's Word so repulsive to you that you couldn't even sit through the lesson on what had been read? You would rather go and stand by yourself next to a toilet until the sermon was over? You would rather listen to canned readings and superficial commentaries over hard teachings on truth?

That comment seems incredibly irreverent to me because staring at a toilet would apparently be less repulsive than hearing God's Word.
You claim to be a child of Christ because you to embrace Christ as your Savior. Embracing Christ doesn't begin and end with a thought. I can't claim to embrace Christ if there is absolutely no outward evidence of it. I can't just claim to believe in Christ and assume I'm automatically saved. Neither can I recite some canned sinners prayer and assume I'm saved. If I don't hate mother, father, sister, brother, and my own life; if I don't pick up my cross to follow Him, putting Him above all, always, then I can claim to embrace Him all day long and say all the sinners prayer all I want, but I'm doing nothing but fooling myself. Even the demons believe...and they tremble. By their fruits you will know them.

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News Item2/6/14 4:30 AM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
TeenChristian wrote:
Look John Y, you do understand we're evangelical Christians and not RC's right?
Right. I understand you guys are not RC's. I never stated you guys were. What statement did I make that you are taking exception to?
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News Item2/5/14 7:28 PM
Jessica Dawson | Canada  Find all comments by Jessica Dawson
John Yurich USA wrote:
Why would unemployment lead one to engage in sin and contemplate suicide?
Hi John -- God bless and peace to you!

When people do not have faith in The Lord Jesus Christ, and think they are making it on their own -- it may be very devastating for them to lose their jobs. It is devastating enough for a believer to lose their job, but for someone who has no hope in The Lord Jesus Christ the consequences can be deadly.

Persons, if they cannot make a living legally, may choose to make a living illegally by for example: stealing, prostitution, selling drugs etc. Moreover, persons who cannot support themselves and their families may end up feeling that the only way out is suicide.

Furthermore, persons experiencing oppressive working conditions have also been at risk for suicide. For example, the Foxconn suicides in China, where in a period of one year nine employees committed suicide.

In order to keep profit margins high, many large corporations do not pay their employees a what is called in sociology, 'a living wage.'

"Woe unto him that buildeth his house by unrighteousness, and his chambers by wrong; that useth his neighbour's service without wages, and giveth him not for his work;"

~ Jeremiah 22:13 KJV

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News Item2/5/14 6:51 PM
Strat  Find all comments by Strat
All he is doing is preparing the masses to accept universal poverty as a standard,while he and the elite will live like Kings,he is saying that if all can't be rich then all should be poor.

The bible does not teach universal poverty,it teaches righteousness and holiness and the blessings of such,but he is the Pope so the bible does not concern him.

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News Item2/5/14 4:02 PM
Dorcas | USA  Find all comments by Dorcas
The Oman Observer is reporting today that the UN Committee on the right of the child ..came out with a devastating report yesterday that the Vatican and the pope had done nothing to stamp out child abuse and called on the "church" to remove all clergy suspected of raping or molesting children and turn them over to the proper authorities of each country this has taken place.
Tens of thousands of children worldwide had been systemically abused over the years by these perverts.
And most of evangelicalism is silent....and even considers this "religion" Christian.
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News Item2/5/14 3:33 PM
TeenChristian | Georgia  Find all comments by TeenChristian
Look John Y, you do understand we're evangelical Christians and not RC's right?
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News Item2/5/14 2:41 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
John Y., you have it reversed, you should go to the restroom when you go to your Catholic Church so can regurgitate from hearing all that lying in the Mass The Mass: Miracle or Mendacity?. Then you go to an Independent Fundamentalist Baptist Church to listen to the truth. John Y., you would be better off going to no Church than the Romish one, Come Out Of The Catholic Church.

John B.,

Colossians 2
8 See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deception, according to the tradition of men, according to the elementary principles of the world, rather than according to Christ.
9 For in Him all the fulness of Deity dwells in bodily form,---NASB

John B., I would suggest you read the Sermon of Gil's Supremacy of Christ in Creation Christ is most assuredly God.

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News Item2/5/14 10:45 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
John Yurich USA wrote:
Even if I were to attend an Evangelical Protestant Church I would not engage in verbal communication with the minister or anybody else, I would go to the bathroom during the sermon and I would not participate in any church activities.
The Bible says nothing about a bathroom in the worship service, so the bathroom is an unscriptural part of the service. Why would you participate in an unscriptural part of the service?
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News Item2/5/14 9:52 AM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Jim Lincoln wrote:
His Unholiness has a lot more to worry about closer to home than unemployment!
‚Äúthe Holy See has not acknowledged the extent of the crimes committed, has not taken the necessary measures to address cases of child sexual abuse and to protect children, and has adopted policies and practices which have led to the continuation of the abuse by and the impunity of the perpetrators.‚ÄĚ
Abuse by Priests--UN
So, John, ready to come out of that International Crime Organization, i.e., the RCC?
Even if I were to attend an Evangelical Protestant Church I would not engage in verbal communication with the minister or anybody else, I would go to the bathroom during the sermon and I would not participate in any church activities.
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News Item2/5/14 9:30 AM
CaptCredence | Arizona  Find all comments by CaptCredence
I think John's point is that unemployment in and of itself isn't anymore a catalyst to sin than anything else. The Pope, Obama and other socialists pretend that jobs are entitlements.
Sin is a natural condition for the natural man but is not excusable. Believers will not continue in sin as (the Bible's) John says in his epistles.
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News Item2/5/14 9:30 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
His Unholiness has a lot more to worry about closer to home than unemployment!

‚Äúthe Holy See has not acknowledged the extent of the crimes committed, has not taken the necessary measures to address cases of child sexual abuse and to protect children, and has adopted policies and practices which have led to the continuation of the abuse by and the impunity of the perpetrators.‚ÄĚ

Abuse by Priests--UN

So, John, ready to come out of that International Crime Organization, i.e., the RCC?

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News Item2/5/14 6:45 AM
CAB  Find all comments by CAB
John Yurich USA wrote:
Why would unemployment lead one to engage in sin and contemplate suicide?
Because unbelievers will kill and steal to get food or whatever. And Christians will abandon their faith oftentimes and start acting like animals as well.

Life is a test, not a lottery. The people who are lame and crippled and retarded are the fortunate ones. Those who live for ourselves and our selfish (and sinful) desires will miss out on Heaven, have an eternity to regret not taking the Bible seriously when we're told God wants us to love him with all our heart, mind, soul and STRENGTH and our neighbor as ourself.

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News Item2/5/14 4:14 AM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Why would unemployment lead one to engage in sin and contemplate suicide?
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