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MONDAY, JAN 20, 2014  |  57 comments
Nun gives birth to baby named after Pope
A nun who was rushed to hospital complaining of acute stomach pains has given birth to a baby boy – and named him Francesco after the Pope.

The 31-year-old nun began to feel severe abdominal cramps on Wednesday and gave birth just a few hours later.

The discovery of her pregnancy has embarrassed the Catholic Church in Italy, with the local bishop saying that she will have to leave her convent in Rieti, north of Rome, after breaking her vow of chastity.

"It would be preferable that she now lead a secular life with her baby, away from religious institutions," said a spokesman for Delio Lucarelli, bishop of Rieti. ...


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True Christian American | New York City  Find all comments by True Christian American
Learn the truth by running a Google search for: obama thanks drug dealer in yearbook
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News Item1/22/14 3:29 PM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
John, nobody can deny that some things said during a mass, the rosary, etc, are scriptural. The problem for someone in your position, John, is that as you learn more and more about the deeper things of the Roman religious system, the more you're going to feel like you're walking on egg shells. I would find it very difficult to attempt to ignore all of the unscriptural parts as you do, because everything is so intertwined. Like, you might be able to recite a couple of lines out loud of something, know you shouldn't repeat the 3rd line, the next line is ok, but the following two lines are not scriptural, etc. Just seems like a lot of work to avoid so much while trying to glean the little bit that you would consider scriptural. As for the rosary itself, personally I would avoid it like the plague because it is used for and plays an active role in the world of indulgences and vain repitition, not to mention that one of its purposes is to invoke Mary to forgive, save, and plea for both.
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News Item1/22/14 9:59 AM
Stevenr | Missouri  Contact via emailFind all comments by Stevenr
Whatever happened to fornicating nuns? Now we are on beads? Just a final curiosity, in passing the headline over and over; they never mentioned the daddy. Hope they are not trying to throw out a Virgin birth copy.
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News Item1/22/14 9:49 AM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
DJC49 wrote:
What does one need a string of beads for in order to pray to the Father? Obviously, you, a Roman Catholic, don't even know how to pray the rosary! (I.e., meditate on the 5 myteries -- either sorrowful, joyful, or glorious -- when fingering through the 5 sets of 10 Hail Marys)
Who stated I advocate using a string of beads in order to pray? And you only pray to the Father and not to Jesus? I don't pray the rosary normally but sometimes when I attend another Catholic Church in town they pray the rosary before Mass and I don't pray the Hail Marys and I don't meditate on the 5 mysteries. I only pray the Lord's Prayer, the Glory Be Prayer(Prayer to the Holy Trinity, which is scriptural) and the prayer that goes "O my Jesus forgive us our sins. Save us from the fires of Hell. Lead all souls to Heaven, especially those in most need of thy mercy."(This prayer is not about Purgatory. That is what I believe about this prayer).
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News Item1/22/14 9:49 AM
prayway  Find all comments by prayway
John Yurich USA wrote:
Would it be scriptural if one were to pray the rosary but omit the Hail Mary Prayer
John Yurich
It would be more scriptural to come out of the Roman Catholic idolatrous and blasphemous philosophy all together and pray in the Spirit.

Eph 6:18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;

1Cor 14:15 "I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also"

Matt 26:41 Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak"

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News Item1/22/14 9:35 AM
DJC49 | Florida  Find all comments by DJC49
John Yurich USA wrote:
Here is a scenario I have been wondering about. Would it be scriptural if one were to pray the rosary but omit the Hail Mary Prayer and just say the Lord's Prayer, the Glory Be Prayer(Prayer to the Holy Trinity) and the prayer that goes "O my Jesus forgive us our sins. Save us from the fires of Hell. Lead all souls to Heaven, espcially those in most need of thy mercy."(This prayer has nothing to do with Purgatory)?
What does one need a string of beads for in order to pray to the Father? Obviously, you, a Roman Catholic, don't even know how to pray the rosary! (I.e., meditate on the 5 mysteries -- either sorrowful, joyful, or glorious -- when fingering through the 5 sets of 10 Hail Marys)
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News Item1/22/14 9:23 AM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Christopher000 wrote:
Thanks John, but she and the rest of the family for that matter, are fully in and immersed in all that Rome teaches. Christ is working in you and that's how you have been able to differentiate and even disagree with much of what your church teaches, even though you remain (for now). Since she is fully absorbed, she does use the beads to pray to Mary which to me is no different than praying directly to Satan. If we're not praying to Christ, there's only one other who can hear and receive our audible prayers. I know that's hard for some to hear, but it's the way I view it.
I wish she at least had the knowledge that you do, but like I said, she is all in so the prayers to Mary are my dilemma, not the piece of harware.
Here is a scenario I have been wondering about. Would it be scriptural if one were to pray the rosary but omit the Hail Mary Prayer and just say the Lord's Prayer, the Glory Be Prayer(Prayer to the Holy Trinity) and the prayer that goes "O my Jesus forgive us our sins. Save us from the fires of Hell. Lead all souls to Heaven, espcially those in most need of thy mercy."(This prayer has nothing to do with Purgatory)?
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News Item1/22/14 7:51 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
I don't know...I'll figure out out today.
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News Item1/22/14 6:52 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Like your new handle, Kurker? Man, a lot of typos in that one...
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News Item1/22/14 6:41 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Thanks guys...I thought I had settled it in ny mind yesterday, but Kurker made me think it over again. Knowing them, there are two scenarios:
1) I return the necklace, untouched, and try to tell them why as they are not happy and holding back a little anger as they "maybe" listen for a minute.
2) Fix it and tell them why I had a very difficult time with it, while they are happy to have it back and might listen for two minutes.

I.think I've realy blown this up in my head...ha-ha. I think they will listen to me longer as I return it so maybe I can use it as a tool, you know, like against Satan, to get some Q and A time before theu shut down.

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News Item1/21/14 12:20 PM
Lurker  Protected NameFind all comments by Lurker
Christopher000 wrote:
I know this is way off topic but I have to ask a question that's been bothering me:
I make necklaces from beach stones in my spare time, infuse metal into the stones, use leather cord, etc, so I am all set up for any repairs as well. Two days ago, my father in law handed me his 91yr old mothers rosary asking me to fix it because a metal jumper broke. She is very Catholic and uses it every day, counting the beads for prayers, etc. I took it but don't really like even having it in my home.
The question that's bothering me is, should I fix it? She will use it regardless, so I don't feel like I'm feeding into the idolotry, but what do you all think about it? Maybe I'm over thinking it...
I'd fix it and when you give it back, simply say "Ya know, you don't need this to pray to God." and see what happens. If you get an attentive ear, God has opened it. If not, you've made it know that you've been set apart from such a vain practice that God won't hear.
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News Item1/21/14 11:04 AM
Stevenr | Missouri  Contact via emailFind all comments by Stevenr
Chris; I've always found honesty helps. We have a conviction about dress standards, and a relative bought a gift that, if worn, violated that standard. I wasn't going to let my daughter wear it, and I wasn't going to lie; I was nice, but honest. The main problem most fundamentalists have today is their delivery; if you come off "holier than thou" then expect problems. If you are honest and apologetic... It works for everything except baking cakes for queers....
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News Item1/21/14 9:32 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Stevenr Wrote:
Paul warned Christians that whatsoever was not of faith, was sin. If YOU have qualms about doing if, then you should avoid it.

This is the verse that's been on my mind and always comes to mind when faced with situations like this. This is going to be a very awkward situation for me to handle given their disposition when I have brought up the topic before. This time, not only am I bringing it up, but I would be refusing to fix his mother's necklace, one that she uses several times a day and probably feels lost without it at this very moment. Oh boy...

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News Item1/21/14 9:04 AM
William S. Sutherland | Houston, Texas  Find all comments by William S. Sutherland
SteveR and Stevenr,
I think you are both right. Christopher shouldn't repair the rosary because he obviously has a check in his spirit about doing so and it would encourage her to continue an idolatrous practice. I should have seen that before I offered my thought, but I do think this would be a great opportunity for him to witness regarding the faith once delivered to the saints and discuss with her what constitutes effectual prayer as opposed to vain repetitious prayer warned about by our LORD.
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News Item1/21/14 9:00 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Thanks William, and no, Barry, I'm glad you spoke up. I had a feeling you weren't aware of the prayers.
Now...Steve...thanks. These are my thoughts, and I know "praying to Satan" was extreme, but I would never actually carry that over Into a conversation. This has been bothering me and I must say that I was surprised by your response. I have tried to speak with them, but the last time I did, when the subject of Mary came up, my wife's mom got very upset. Her exact words: "I don't know what the bible says but that's our blessed mother!" and stomped off refusing to continue the conversation. This is the wall I always hit and the conversations never last more than a couple of minutes.
I don't know how I am going to approach this because nobody is really willing to listen. I have a feeling they are going to take my not repairing it personally, no matter what I say. We'll see...
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News Item1/21/14 8:53 AM
Stevenr | Missouri  Contact via emailFind all comments by Stevenr
John: it's not that I don't think others should be able to post here; it's because if the expectation. It would be like going to Church and having some Jehovah's witnesses in the foyer handing out watchtowers. Many of the "comments" are leading people into discussions just to have a floor to preach heresies and false doctrines.
Chris; personally, I would fix the rosary. It means nothing to me; I would fix it and pray for the opportunity to preach Christ to the woman. BUT, you should not. "Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind." (Romans 14:5) if you read the whole chapter you will see that Paul warned Christians that whatsoever was not of faith, was sin. If YOU have qualms about doing if, then you should avoid it. (Like Christians eating meat offered to idols, not a sin, unless you're conscience believes it wrong...) hope that helps.
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News Item1/21/14 8:33 AM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
Christopher000 wrote:
I know this is way off topic but I have to ask a question that's been bothering me:
The question that's bothering me is, should I fix it?
Good Morning Chris, Barry, William and John.

I definately would NOT fix the rosary under any circumstances. In fact, I think you should take the time to explain why you cant. Dont say its praying to Satan, because it isnt true and will only make them defensive. However, it is a false form of worship, and by fixing it you would contribute to their idolatry. Even children who gather the wood for idolatry are guilty.

I think this is a great opportunity for you to evangelize

Jeremiah 7:18 The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto other gods, that they may provoke me to anger.

Jeremiah 7:19 Do they provoke me to anger? saith the LORD: do they not provoke themselves to the confusion of their own faces?

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News Item1/21/14 8:24 AM
William S. Sutherland | Houston, Texas  Find all comments by William S. Sutherland
AMEN, Randy and Stevenr. This kind of stuff goes on way to much. Too many want to continuously argue their pet doctrines rather than comment on the story at hand. And the personal attacks certainly don't exhibit the love for one another which Christ said would characterize His disciples.

John Yurich, I think it is commendable that you have control over sexual lust. That is not an easy task in our sex-saturated culture, but as someone else stated, it is possible according to Scripture. As for the nun, being in an institution that requires chastity and forbids marriage for someone in her situation, it was probably more than she could bear. God does not give everyone the gift of singleness and that is why Biblical Christianity allows marriage even for those in full-time ministry. The position of the Church of Rome is unscriptural and has probably led to more sexual failures than it has prevented. "It is better to marry than to burn."

Christopher000, I would never want to encourage someone to continue in what is a vain and superstitious practice, but you could look on the repair of the rosary as an act of kindness and an opportunity for witness. Just a thought.

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News Item1/21/14 8:12 AM
Barry from KY. | Northern KY  Find all comments by Barry from KY.
Chris, i apologize, and must admit some ignorance to the catholic church and it's rituals. I didn't think about the prayers to Mary. There is a catholic church in our town, but very small. Most churches in Williamstown KY are evangelical Christian...

Perhaps I should have kept silent!!!

John, there are several verses about 'graven images' and that was what I was refering to.

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News Item1/21/14 8:00 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Thanks John, but she and the rest of the family for that matter, are fully in and immersed in all that Rome teaches. Christ is working in you and that's how you have been able to differentiate and even disagree with much of what your church teaches, even though you remain (for now). Since she is fully absorbed, she does use the beads to pray to Mary which to me is no different than praying directly to Satan. If we're not praying to Christ, there's only one other who can hear and receive our audible prayers. I know that's hard for some to hear, but it's the way I view it.
I wish she at least had the knowledge that you do, but like I said, she is all in so the prayers to Mary are my dilemma, not the piece of harware.
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