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So 'Vitamins don't work,' eh?

Now I will admit my bias. My bias is that modern medicine is the “Flat Earth Society,” and its adherents are infused with hubris – they “know not that they knoweth not.” In other words, classically trained physicians (and I am one) fall into the trap of forgetting that they don’t have all the answers, and that the truth is always unfolding. Today in 2013 what we believe is true will not be seen to be true in a hundred years.

In reality, even classically trained physicians use vitamins and mineral supplements all the time in their practice, and believe that they work – even the guys from the Ivy League who treat naturopaths and “complementary” physicians with such contempt. They prescribe Vitamin D all the time for bone preservation. They give iron for blood deficiency. They use sublingual and injectable B12 for pernicious anemia and neuropathy. These are vitamins and minerals.

They just don’t ...


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News Item1/23/14 6:47 PM
Strat  Find all comments by Strat
CAB wrote:
I'm with you. Our Bible is our temple, and the Bible says whoever destroys his temple, God will destroy HIM. If God is living in us, we should respect our temple, and treat our life with thankfulness and care for our body. To do otherwise is, at the least, to be a bad steward, and remember Jesus taught the bad and lazy steward was FURIOUSLY thrown into Hell by his Master.
I don't believe in Global Warming, but we can't be trashing the earth either, and Scripture says Jesus will come to destroy and judge the sorcerers and those "who destroy the earth."
He will also destroy those who used the goods and services produced by those who are destroying the earth,do you think you bear no blame? if I rob a bank and give you some of the money and you spend it on yourself are you not just as guilty ? you and everyone who uses modern conveinences have paid others to destroy the earth...they did it for your money that you willingly handed over because you wanted to live a comfortable life....what happens to the "steward" who draws attention to what he perceives to be only the guilt of others ? while portraying himself to be innocent ?unless you are living outdoors or in a cave you are contributing to the destruction as you define it of the earth.
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News Item1/23/14 2:44 AM
CAB  Find all comments by CAB
John Beechy wrote:
It works the other way too, the obsession with unnatural grocery stores, fast "food", restaurant "food", the obsession with pharmaceuticals, vaccines, hospitals, unnatural hospital childbirth, Allopath quacks, the obsession with insurance schemes in order to obtain said drugs/vaccines that allegedly prolong physical life, the obsession with destroying the body, the obsession with destroying the earth, the obsession with doing what every one else is doing, the obsession with believing whatever the State people say, the obsession with propaganda paranoia, the obsession with killing people and conquering the earth in the name of Jesus.
Lots of idol worshipping going on!
I'm with you. Our Bible is our temple, and the Bible says whoever destroys his temple, God will destroy HIM. If God is living in us, we should respect our temple, and treat our life with thankfulness and care for our body. To do otherwise is, at the least, to be a bad steward, and remember Jesus taught the bad and lazy steward was FURIOUSLY thrown into Hell by his Master.

I don't believe in Global Warming, but we can't be trashing the earth either, and Scripture says Jesus will come to destroy and judge the sorcerers and those "who destroy the earth."

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News Item1/22/14 9:33 PM
John Beechy  Find all comments by John Beechy
It works the other way too, the obsession with unnatural grocery stores, fast "food", restaurant "food", the obsession with pharmaceuticals, vaccines, hospitals, unnatural hospital childbirth, Allopath quacks, the obsession with insurance schemes in order to obtain said drugs/vaccines that allegedly prolong physical life, the obsession with destroying the body, the obsession with destroying the earth, the obsession with doing what every one else is doing, the obsession with believing whatever the State people say, the obsession with propaganda paranoia, the obsession with killing people and conquering the earth in the name of Jesus.

Lots of idol worshipping going on!

Strasse wrote:
The worlds modern obsession with vitamins, eating the quote, "right" food and exercise which is supposed to make the mortal last longer in this miserable life is all hocus pocus.
Life and longevity belongs to God. When you are finished with this world then and only then will you go home to heaven or hell.
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News Item1/22/14 3:44 PM
CAB  Find all comments by CAB
Strasse wrote:
3) Exactly God takes care of all their needs which is the Lord's point.
Matt 6:25 Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment?
26 Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they?
27 Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature?
28 And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin:
31 Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?
33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
This passage is often misinterpreted, and was by me also in my early Christian life, to think that if I was a believer and went to church I could expect all the things I wanted to come my way -- but the scripture is talking about providing for food and raimant, not fame and fortune. And scripture promises instead suffering, lots of it, but peace and joy in spite o
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News Item1/22/14 10:41 AM
pennned  Find all comments by pennned
Strasse wrote:
1) Yes I've been to the doctor - Much good that it did me???
2) The good old days! What about about them?
ha! thanks for the laugh.
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News Item1/22/14 10:25 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Strasse wrote:
Don't trust completely in God eh Mike?
If you cannot trust in God to keep you alive long enough for HIS purposes in your life then what can you trust HIM for?
Now is Mike of more value than a sparrow to God?
Matt 10:29 Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing? and one of them shall not fall on the ground without your Father. 30 But the very hairs of your head are all numbered.
**31 Fear ye not therefore, ye are of more value than many sparrows.**
Enjoy your burger and fries Mike, and trust in God for life.
I have a suspicion you do not sit on your duff, not having worked to provide. But then I ask, why not, God provides for sparrows, doesn't he? Why buy clothes, do the lilies toil? Doesn't Strasse trust him to keep him alive long enough for HIS purposes in his life?

btw, the Matthew verses say nothing about ignoring stewardship of the body and mind, nor do they establish stewardship as obsession.

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News Item1/22/14 10:00 AM
Strasse  Find all comments by Strasse
penny wrote:
1) Strasse, I'm assuming you never go to the doctor?
2) there was a time men spent the whole day in the field and the women spent the whole day in the kitchen!
3) sparrows don't worry, but they don't go to the doctor either
1) Yes I've been to the doctor - Much good that it did me???
2) The good old days! What about about them?
3) Exactly God takes care of all their needs which is the Lord's point.

Matt 6:25 Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment?
26 Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they?
27 Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature?
28 And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin:
31 Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?

33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

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News Item1/22/14 9:39 AM
penny  Find all comments by penny
Strasse, I'm assuming you never go to the doctor?

there was a time men spent the whole day in the field and the women spent the whole day in the kitchen!

sparrows don't worry, but they don't go to the doctor either. they spend much of their time searching for food in their natural environment, trusting there is a creative order from God for their Provision.

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News Item1/22/14 9:12 AM
Strasse  Find all comments by Strasse
Mike wrote:
Fatalism disguised as spiritual wisdom? Perhaps we should eat drink and be merry for tomorrow we die anyway
Don't trust completely in God eh Mike?
If you cannot trust in God to keep you alive long enough for HIS purposes in your life then what can you trust HIM for?
Now is Mike of more value than a sparrow to God?
Matt 10:29 Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing? and one of them shall not fall on the ground without your Father. 30 But the very hairs of your head are all numbered.

**31 Fear ye not therefore, ye are of more value than many sparrows.**

Enjoy your burger and fries Mike, and trust in God for life.

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News Item1/21/14 8:08 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Strasse wrote:
The worlds modern obsession with vitamins, eating the quote, "right" food and exercise which is supposed to make the mortal last longer in this miserable life is all hocus pocus.
Life and longevity belongs to God. When you are finished with this world then and only then will you go home to heaven or hell.
Fatalism disguised as spiritual wisdom? Perhaps we should eat drink and be merry for tomorrow we die anyway. Why should we be good stewards of the life God has given if the only important thing is to see stewardship of the body and mind as obsession and hocus pocus?
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News Item1/21/14 7:56 PM
Strat  Find all comments by Strat
Strasse wrote:
The worlds modern obsession with vitamins, eating the quote, "right" food and exercise which is supposed to make the mortal last longer in this miserable life is all hocus pocus.
Life and longevity belongs to God. When you are finished with this world then and only then will you go home to heaven or hell.
It is the "prosperity gospel" of the flesh
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News Item1/21/14 3:07 PM
Strasse  Find all comments by Strasse
The worlds modern obsession with vitamins, eating the quote, "right" food and exercise which is supposed to make the mortal last longer in this miserable life is all hocus pocus.

Life and longevity belongs to God. When you are finished with this world then and only then will you go home to heaven or hell.

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News Item1/21/14 10:41 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
CAB wrote:
So I guess you will only be posting here under the names of your imaginary friends you post with--but not as John UK?
If you are walking from your cave to the library to post, you should be in great shape getting all that fresh air and exercise. But if you're too sick to get out and serve God, why will dropping off the forum help you achieve health? Not that I think you should stick around and keep spreading your false doctrines and blowing smoke all over the forum per usual. I just don't believe you.
---
I'm sure that's ok, Cheryl. Not many believe you either.

Hey, do you suppose you see John's friends as imaginary for the same reason you see so many imaginary enemies?

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News Item1/21/14 10:35 AM
a reliable source would help  Find all comments by a reliable source would help
penny wrote:
"Congenital Hypothyroidism and Fukushima Fallout in the US"
http://farmwars.info/?p=12343
"A Time Lapse May of Every Nuclear Explosion Since 1945"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_W_lLhBt8Vg
then we treat cancer with radiation, use toxic waste products in water as "cavity preventers", we are the nuclear-petrol generations.
so this topic that some are scoffing is affecting each one of our families. there are simple things that can be taken that remove radiation from the body, that is something else than "vegetable only" cancer guys are not likely to bring to the table. I often think of the scripture about a nation perishing for a lack of knowledge. Living in this radiation and chemical exposure and adding on to daily toxic load without thought reminds me of the ecclesiastes generation, "eat, drink and be merry for tomorrow we die" -- the more our nations indebts itself the more this philosophy seems to reign
not a reliable source
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News Item1/21/14 10:26 AM
penny  Find all comments by penny
"Congenital Hypothyroidism and Fukushima Fallout in the US"

http://farmwars.info/?p=12343

"A Time Lapse May of Every Nuclear Explosion Since 1945"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_W_lLhBt8Vg

then we treat cancer with radiation, use toxic waste products in water as "cavity preventers", we are the nuclear-petrol generations.

so this topic that some are scoffing is affecting each one of our families. there are simple things that can be taken that remove radiation from the body, that is something else than "vegetable only" cancer guys are not likely to bring to the table. I often think of the scripture about a nation perishing for a lack of knowledge. Living in this radiation and chemical exposure and adding on to daily toxic load without thought reminds me of the ecclesiastes generation, "eat, drink and be merry for tomorrow we die" -- the more our nations indebts itself the more this philosophy seems to reign

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News Item1/21/14 2:42 AM
CAB  Find all comments by CAB
John UK wrote:
I am about to embark on following his dietary example, along with exercise and so on. I will be spending little time on the internet, but will maybe dip in from time to time. We must work while it is day, the night cometh when no man can work. There is plenty to do for the kingdom of God, so I aim to get some of my health back by eating and drinking sensibly, and get back to soldiering for the Lord with a cheerful countenance and a joy unspeakable and full of glory. This is my purpose, and none will dissuade me from it. Every blessing to all my dear friends here on SA.
So I guess you will only be posting here under the names of your imaginary friends you post with--but not as John UK?

If you are walking from your cave to the library to post, you should be in great shape getting all that fresh air and exercise. But if you're too sick to get out and serve God, why will dropping off the forum help you achieve health? Not that I think you should stick around and keep spreading your false doctrines and blowing smoke all over the forum per usual. I just don't believe you.

You are going to be taking your bloodless atonement doctrine and your 5 points out to the streets? Or just don't tell them,

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News Item1/20/14 10:55 PM
Lurker  Protected NameFind all comments by Lurker
John UK wrote:
Probably the healthiest preacher I've ever come across is the late Lester Roloff . He has some great advice about health and eating etc. Both physical and spiritual. I am about to embark on following his dietary example, along with exercise and so on. I will be spending little time on the internet, but will maybe dip in from time to time. We must work while it is day, the night cometh when no man can work. There is plenty to do for the kingdom of God, so I aim to get some of my health back by eating and drinking sensibly, and get back to soldiering for the Lord with a cheerful countenance and a joy unspeakable and full of glory. This is my purpose, and none will dissuade me from it. Every blessing to all my dear friends here on SA.
I guess I always knew the time would come when you would curtail your time here but I'm glad to hear the reason is you will be spending more time working for God.

May God bless you with fruitful days, peaceful nights and good health. And don't wait too long to let us know how you are fareing. God bless you, dear brother.

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News Item1/20/14 5:32 PM
Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
You will be dearly missed brother John UK, but as others have said, we will continue praying for you. The Lord bless and keep you as you fight the good fight of faith.
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News Item1/20/14 4:39 PM
SF from TX  Find all comments by SF from TX
Will miss your posts John. They've been a blessing. Praying for you.
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News Item1/20/14 4:20 PM
Dorcas | USA  Find all comments by Dorcas
The Lord bless thee, and keep thee!
Will hold you up in prayer at the throne of grace.
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