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TUESDAY, JAN 7, 2014| 17 comments
The Pope Is on The Democrats' Side

Shortly before leaving the Capitol for the holiday recess, Senate Democrats gathered behind closed doors to lay out an agenda for 2014. When the majority leader, Harry Reid, exhorted colleagues to “deal with the issue of income inequality,” the talk took a spiritual turn.

“You know,” declared Senator Bernard Sanders, the Vermont independent, who caucuses with Democrats, “we have a strong ally on our side in this issue — and that is the pope.”

That Mr. Sanders, who is Jewish, would invoke the pope to Mr. Reid, a Mormon, delighted Roman Catholics in the room. (“Bernie! You’re quoting my pope; this is good!” Senator Richard J. Durbin of Illinois recalled thinking.) Beyond interfaith banter, the comment underscored a larger truth: From 4,500 miles away at the Vatican, Pope Francis, who has captivated the world with a message of economic justice and tolerance, has become a presence in Washington’s ...


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Daniel 7 | student  Find all comments by Daniel 7
17 These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth. 18 But the saints of the most High shall take the kingdom, and possess the kingdom for ever, even for ever and ever. 19 Then I would know the truth of the fourth beast, which was diverse from all the others, exceeding dreadful, whose teeth were of iron, and his nails of brass; which devoured, brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with his feet;
*20 And of the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look was more stout than his fellows. 21 I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them; 22 Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom.* 23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces. 24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.
Rev17:11-18
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News Item1/8/14 7:31 PM
Strat  Find all comments by Strat
The Pope is the result of Catholic church's study of the times and who would be accepted and become a part of the world system and who had the skills to lead millions into that system.

Politically he is a leftist socialist

Theologically he reduces Christianity to mere charity and the life,death and resurrection of Jesus to a full belly and little else.

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News Item1/8/14 3:24 PM
Revelation 16 | student  Find all comments by Revelation 16
12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.

13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.

14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.

16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

In my studies it appears this is the 6th vial judgment poured out on the apostate church and there is yet one to follow. Its relation to the 6th seal and trumpet seem to indicate it is a judgment on the eastern section of that empire (trumpet)/church (vial) seventh trumpet and vial? follows the rise of the of the Church after the completion of the 1260 years of the great falling away or Daniel's time, times and a half of time see Rev. 11:1-13 ; verse 14 states The second woe(trumpet)is past; and, behold, the third woe (trumpet)cometh quickly.

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News Item1/8/14 2:56 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
1517, when did I say we knew the time that Christ was coming back? Of course we also don't then know when the tribulation starts either. I would also suggest you read, A Short History Of Dispensationalism. The idea of the millennium goes back to the early church. Also for your listening pleasure, I will point out the short sermon on Dispensations.

Longer a sermon would be, The Timing of the Rapture
End Time Diagram.

By the way, Tribulation is Not for the Church.

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News Item1/8/14 8:05 AM
Pretribulation rapture | Not new  Find all comments by Pretribulation rapture
http://www.mayimhayim.org/Academic%2520Stuff/Pre-Tribulation%2520Rapture.htm
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News Item1/7/14 6:00 PM
penny  Find all comments by penny
Frank, if I may add......Revelations is for us, God intended His people to have help in these fast changing times, for edification and warning for today, and when one is going through tribulation it brings clarity and protection, revelation 22 warns of sealing the words.

"Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book." verse 7

"And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand." verse 10

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News Item1/7/14 5:01 PM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
penny wrote:
yes, his pretrib rapture timeline keeps him from understanding the spirit of the age in this text and both the encouragement and warning to believers. it is said same thing of Chinese church, that they were taught the pretrib and were surprised by comm'n take over, while Wumbrand took his youth to the zoo to see the lions! (remind them of the martyrs and preparing them for what a walk with Christ will cost).
I agree Penny and I am a convinced Post-trib rapture person. Some think this issue should not be discussed, but scripture gives us signs for a reason and scripture talks extensively on His second coming. The only thing we are not to do is predict the "day or hour", but we should attempt to discern the times and the season.
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News Item1/7/14 3:17 PM
Revelation 17  Find all comments by Revelation 17
11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.

16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.

17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.

18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

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News Item1/7/14 2:33 PM
1517  Find all comments by 1517
Jim,
Dispensational and Pre-tribulation doctrine are new (19th century) western ideas. Besides, no matter your eschatology, Christ said NO ONE knows when he shall return. Kind of hard the write off the others without doing the same for your own.
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News Item1/7/14 2:03 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
(Sigh) I should've been a little wider awake, for my first comment.I really don't worship economic systems, and there are are examples of enough of capitalism and common ownership in the Bible. However, there is a fairly common thread about man-made religions such as the ones of the Roman Catholics, Mormons, and Jehovah Witnesses(URL] I was suppose this excellent commentary should really cover it all.

---The Perils of Popery---

I will congratulate SA on their good taste in articles. I think it really explains the current situation.

Penny, I'm rather amazed at your comment about dispensationalists, we don't think that things are going to get better and better on the world stage, but just the opposite! If the Pollyanna Amillennialist or post-millennialist who believes that. The Unscriptural Theologies Of Amillennialism And Postmillennialism.

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News Item1/7/14 1:48 PM
penny  Find all comments by penny
yes, his pretrib rapture timeline keeps him from understanding the spirit of the age in this text and both the encouragement and warning to believers. it is said same thing of Chinese church, that they were taught the pretrib and were surprised by comm'n take over, while Wumbrand took his youth to the zoo to see the lions! (remind them of the martyrs and preparing them for what a walk with Christ will cost).
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News Item1/7/14 10:23 AM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
Read the encyclical Rerum Novarum; it's effectively a Progressive manifesto, & has been cited ever since by popes in their crusade for "social justice" (redistributionist gov't policies). It is an example of "Third Way" thinking which has dominated Western politics since then: neither Marxist nor libertarian.

Excerpt: "the first thing of all to secure is to save unfortunate working people from the cruelty of men of greed." — does this sound familiar?

Don't be deceived by Repub conservatives (such as at Nat'l Review) who claim the RCC supports laissez-faire capitalism; the church never has.

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News Item1/7/14 8:45 AM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
The correct and more appropriate name of the article is

"Popular Voice in the Capitol? It’s the Pope’s"

If the newsdesk would have read beyond the first few paragraphs they would have found Republicans too care about the poor. How do you like that? Christian Republicans actually are concerned about the well being of the poor.

Honourable mention to Senator Joe Donnelly Democrat from Indiana and Notre Dame grad who responded “He’s not there to promote the Republicans or promote the Democratic Party. He’s there simply to preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ....”

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News Item1/7/14 6:59 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
The link peaked my curiosity so I gave Mr MacArthurs answer a listen and he gjves his answer within the 1st minute or so of the vid for anyone else curious.
What he says is that (assuming a pre trib rapture) to function in society on a basic level and to buy groceries, or anything for that matter, one would need to have taken the mark of the beast on the left hand or in the forehead. Now his reasoning is that if the saints are already gone, and multitudes are saved; the 144,000, etc, out of the tribulation, those multitudes must have taken the number to survive for so long but were forgiven and redeemed, nevertheless. I was paraphrasing here and what I guess he's saying is that one can take the number, come to their senses and repent, be forgiven and redeemed in the end.

I'm wondering what those who believe in a pre trib rapture think of this even though it's off topic.

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News Item1/7/14 3:37 AM
TeenChristian | Georgia  Find all comments by TeenChristian
"Get real from earth", you're one of those people who live just to bring people down aren't you?
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News Item1/7/14 2:01 AM
get real | earth  Find all comments by get real
JOHN F. MACARTHUR explains why accepting the mark of the beast: 666 wouldn't automatically condemn the person who receives it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cvCkf0V2oU#t=116

this is so crazy ...

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News Item1/7/14 1:42 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Popular Voice in the Capitol? It’s the Pope’s Franny, like all Popes is firstmost on the side of Carholic institution, and never on the side of Christianity, no matter what political party they may appear to favor at a particular time.
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