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SATURDAY, JAN 4, 2014  |  33 comments
Mennonite Church USA Ordains First Openly Homosexual ‘Pastor’

Mennonite Church USA has ordained its first openly homosexual pastor, reports state.

According to Mennonite World Review, the Mountain States Conference, a division of the Mennonite Church USA, has approved the ministerial license of a Colorado woman who identifies as a lesbian.

Theda Good, who is in a relationship with another woman, began serving with First Mennonite Church of Denver in 2012, and has a master’s degree from Eastern Mennonite University in Virginia. Her church submitted a letter requesting her licensure last year, and the Conference has been reviewing the matter over a period of many months. ...


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News Item1/7/14 1:43 PM
John Beechy  Find all comments by John Beechy
The Menno's round here are self-professed conservative, the ones that wear coffee filter caps and have segregated seating in the building they call a church. Not true Anabaptists, and hard-core State Supremacists (they just refuse to do the personal dirty work of killing). Nice folks and neighbors, and I do hang with them at times. I try to help them, but they're stuck in their ways like most people.

I recently learned of their youth Bible schools. Apparently it's a time and place for mating. Young Menno's from other states come in so the relations are kept a little distant. They say a Menno can marry a believer outside the Menno club, but they "encourage" to marry within the club. Bible school appears to be a cloak for what's really going on.

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News Item1/5/14 7:17 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
23 hours ago
Mike from New York writes:
Christopher000 wrote:
I don knkw too much about the menonite clan but I always thought they were pretty strict when it came to Christian values, morals, etc; living according to the Bible.
There are at least 4 levels of Mennonite churches, from liberal to very conservative. They should not be judged as a single entity

Great information...thanks. Some other posts as well.

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News Item1/4/14 5:20 PM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
CV wrote:
What Stevie is saying is that, after having lumped all offshoots and any fringe connections to the Anabapists, to really smear the Anabaptis's. (After all, remember the AB's were fighting Rome.)
What Steverr is saying is that according to his Jesuit Gorilla Warfare Handbook, after you smear the AB's like you did the Waldensians, you reverse back and accept that catagoric lumping is not good.
This is so Rome can be edged back in with an emphasis of it's 'good' bits separated from Romes bad bits
Very well said CV! But, still think he is a member of an emergent church group. We will see after he provides the info I asked him to.
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News Item1/4/14 4:48 PM
CV  Find all comments by CV
What Stevie is saying is that, after having lumped all offshoots and any fringe connections to the Anabapists, to really smear the Anabaptis's. (After all, remember the AB's were fighting Rome.)

What Steverr is saying is that according to his Jesuit Gorilla Warfare Handbook, after you smear the AB's like you did the Waldensians, you reverse back and accept that catagoric lumping is not good.

This is so Rome can be edged back in with an emphasis of it's 'good' bits separated from Romes bad bits

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News Item1/4/14 3:47 PM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
Mike wrote:
Are not you a heretic to the RCC? I am. Heretics are defined as such by the ones who 1) have power at the moment, or 2) think they have a lock on truth. What is with all the generalizations on this site? Inclusion carried to its logical conclusion?
No offense intended, I wasnt expecting a metric for Mennonite salvation. Consider my earlier response complimentary rhetoric for your willingness to express that not all within a denominations are the same.
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News Item1/4/14 3:14 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
SteveR wrote:
All 4 levels are heretical. So, how much of a heretic can you be and still be saved?
Are not you a heretic to the RCC? I am. Heretics are defined as such by the ones who 1) have power at the moment, or 2) think they have a lock on truth. What is with all the generalizations on this site? Inclusion carried to its logical conclusion?
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News Item1/4/14 1:32 PM
Thomas the Doubter | Ohio  Find all comments by Thomas the Doubter
John Boy- no typo! Rofl!!
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News Item1/4/14 12:48 PM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
SteveR wrote:
Let me understand your sanctimonious senile syndrome correctly...
You refuse to categorize people you know best like yourself, but feel confident when you falsely categorize others you dont know.
How entertaining that must be for you
No, all of my thoughts regarding denominations and categorizing folks were meant to be in the first person. I don't mind others categorizing themselves. All I meant to say was, I personally try not to do that. When I referred to you, I was simply saying what I thought was true. Are you against the emergent church? My guess is you are not even if you want to claim you are not part of that movement. I expect to hear a JohnY comment that it doesn't matter where you worship as long as you claim Jesus is your Savior and you believe in the trinity.

What is the name of the church you attend? And if you have a link to their statement of faith, that would be helpful.

What did I say that led you to think I was being sanctimonious?

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News Item1/4/14 12:26 PM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
Frank wrote:
That is why I never categorize myself. There are so many offshoots of denominations making it very difficult to define oneself that way. If someone asks me, I usually just say I am a born again Christian. If they push it a little, I will say I am more closely aligned with fundamentalism and then I let it go. There are wackos in every group. To those that are familiar with me and who are in the faith, I refer to myself as a Pilgrim.
Observer, I think that SteveR is in the emergent church movement. I have always said that. Thanks for the links. Now that my brother John UK has enlightened me, I am frantically searching my mind for some ideas that lend themselves to links, but sadly when your mind is as old as mine, those ideas don't come easily.
TIM WHALEN. I agree fully with your comment. Thanks!!!
Let me understand your sanctimonious senile syndrome correctly...

You refuse to categorize people you know best like yourself, but feel confident when you falsely categorize others you dont know.
How entertaining that must be for you

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News Item1/4/14 12:10 PM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
Mike wrote:
There are at least 4 levels of Mennonite churches, from liberal to very conservative. They should not be judged as a single entity
That is why I never categorize myself. There are so many offshoots of denominations making it very difficult to define oneself that way. If someone asks me, I usually just say I am a born again Christian. If they push it a little, I will say I am more closely aligned with fundamentalism and then I let it go. There are wackos in every group. To those that are familiar with me and who are in the faith, I often refer to myself as a Pilgrim.

Observer, I think that SteveR is in the emergent church movement. I have always said that. Thanks for the links. Now that my brother John UK has enlightened me, I am frantically searching my mind for some ideas that lend themselves to links, but sadly when your mind is as old as mine, those ideas don't come easily.

TIM WHALEN. I agree fully with your comment. Thanks!!!

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News Item1/4/14 12:08 PM
Thomas the Doubter | Ohio  Find all comments by Thomas the Doubter
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News Item1/4/14 12:00 PM
Tim Whalen | Louisville, Kentucky  Find all comments by Tim Whalen
In order to be a shepherd (Pastor) one must first be a follower of Christ. Biblically you cannot both claim to be a follower of Christ and ok with homosexuality. It is a sin very clearly pointed out in scripture just like lust, coveting, and many other things. This is why God - I believe - gave us an objective standard to look toward in the Bible so that we would not be subject to our own feelings and lack of wisdom in areas like this. Besides - a woman should not be a pastor in the first place - regardless of her "orientation".
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News Item1/4/14 11:45 AM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Thomas the Doubter wrote:
Haha!! John Boy!
The error is yours!
You are the one who made the typographical error by typing Cathoholic instead of Catholic Church.
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News Item1/4/14 11:01 AM
Observer  Find all comments by Observer
SteveR wrote:
Blah
We share sources. Mine are
Blah
Googled the resources, eh Chimera?

And which of those resources have you ever read, let alone studied? Perhaps you could share with us which of them agree with your devilish assessment.

Your hatred of true believers pours out of your every pore. You despise the true work of God. You truly are a vile Semi-Catholic, to be pitied for your blindness and bitterness! The influence of Mama church sure is strong on ya. Papa Francis would be proud of you!

With every post you reveal more of your true unregenerate character, and it's a pretty ugly picture!

Which is why YE MUST BE BORN AGAIN!

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News Item1/4/14 10:44 AM
Thomas the Doubter | Ohio  Find all comments by Thomas the Doubter
Haha!! John Boy!
The error is yours!
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News Item1/4/14 10:38 AM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
Observer wrote:
For any interested parties, I would highly recommend to you 2 books:
1. William Estep - Anabaptist Story
2. Leonard Verduin - The Reformers and their step children...
The incident at Munster, which was a city
No aberration, its your spiritual forefathers Observer. Its the source of the demon that controls you not to mention the dominant form of Anabaptism in the Reformed period. It would have remained dominant if the rest of your forefathers werent hunted down like vermin. I agree most Baptists today arent like this, but some are still controlled by that ancient spirit.

We share sources. Mine are
Baylor, Michael G (ed.) (1991) The Radical Reformation. Cambridge; New York: Cambridge University Press. [Consists of extracts from primary source materials.]
Clasen, Claus Peter (1972)Anabaptism - a social history, 1525-1618: Switzerland , Moravia, South and Central Germany. Ithaca, Cornell University Press.
Estep, William Roscoe (1996) The Anabaptist story: an introduction to sixteenth-century Anabaptism. 3rd ed., rev. , Mich.: William B. Eerdmans.
Verduin, Leonard (1964) The reformers and their stepchildren. Grand Rapids: Eerdmans.
Williams, George Huntston (1962) The Radical Reformation. Westminster Press.

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News Item1/4/14 10:14 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
SteveR wrote:
All 4 levels are heretical. So, how much of a heretic can you be and still be saved?
Yes, think about that one.
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News Item1/4/14 10:13 AM
Observer  Find all comments by Observer
SteveR wrote:
If you did your homework earlier this week, you would have understood the evil done at the Anabaptist Kingdom of Munster. blah blah blah
For any interested parties, I would highly recommend to you 2 books:

1. William Estep - Anabaptist Story
2. Leonard Verduin - The Reformers and their step children

There are other more detailed and scholarly books, but the above 2 lay a great foundation.

You could also read this short article:

Anabaptist Story

The incident at Munster, which was a city (not a kingdom), was a radical aberration by some who called themselves Anabaptists, but in their beliefs were far removed from a wide movement which was never homogenous. In fact they turned Presby like and used the OT laws to good effect!

Who would ever trust a malicious ignoramus like SteveR for an impartial view of anything?! Let's also remember his hypocrisy in seeing the apostate RCC as elect when freely condemning an movement sizeable parts of which knew the Lord.

A good Martyrology of Baptists, including accounts of the many Anabaptists who were persecuted is at:

Van Braght's Bloody Theatre

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News Item1/4/14 9:11 AM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
John UK wrote:
Thomas didn't say Catholic Church, but Cathoholic church, that's the one drunken with the blood of the saints.
Cathoholic church doesn't exist. That is what I would have told Thomas had I caught his typographical error.
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News Item1/4/14 9:03 AM
Strat  Find all comments by Strat
Mike wrote:
There are at least 4 levels of Mennonite churches, from liberal to very conservative. They should not be judged as a single entity
Then they should separate themselves entirely from the Mennonite church and not be called,or perhaps there are certain benefits they don't wish to give up.
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