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FRONT PAGE  |  9/5/2015
Choice News FRIDAY, JAN 3, 2014  |  42 comments  |  2 commentaries
‘Science Guy’ Bill Nye and Prominent Christian Set to Battle It Out Over Evolution and Creationism

Scientist Bill Nye has agreed to debate Christian leader Ken Ham next month at the Creation Museum in Petersburg, Ky., where the two will face off over the ever-contentious topics of evolution and creationism.

According to a release published on AnswersInGenesis.org, the website for Ham’s organization, the event will begin at 7 p.m. on Feb. 4, 2014 inside the museum’s 900-seat Legacy Hall.

The two will dialogue on an agreed upon topic: “Is creation a viable model of origins in today’s modern scientific world?” ...


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News Item2/6/14 7:06 PM
penned  Find all comments by penned
kudos to Ken Ham and even to Bill Nye. The heavens declare His handiwork. The proof of God is all around us. It is impossible that this world does not have a designer. I think many just don't want to hear the obvious... the pursuit of science can be a lifelong pursuit, at the end of it, in terms of their religion, or "historical science", I wonder what they can gain. to gain the world but lose your soul. now Jesus Christ is historical, because we have documentation of his life from witnesses, that is the books of Matthew, Mark, Luke, John.
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News Item2/6/14 4:36 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
s c wrote:
I can't imagine how someone could have used the Bible to support a flat earth. The Bible clearly states in Isaiah 40:22 "It is he that sits upon the CIRCLE of the earth." It would profit people who use the Bible to support their claims to actually be knowledgeable of what is in the Bible. Of course, the natural man can't understand it any way.
Evolutionists are the flat-earthers of today, which time will reveal.
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News Item2/6/14 2:59 PM
s c | Oh  Find all comments by s c
I can't imagine how someone could have used the Bible to support a flat earth. The Bible clearly states in Isaiah 40:22 "It is he that sits upon the CIRCLE of the earth." It would profit people who use the Bible to support their claims to actually be knowledgeable of what is in the Bible. Of course, the natural man can't understand it any way.
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News Item1/14/14 5:19 PM
Buc | Michigan  Find all comments by Buc
"Old Earthers" have to believe in "Progressive Creation" where God steps in periodically and does a little creating.

Nothing else works within an old earth framework. It would also have to mean that suffering and death were on the earth before the fall... wouldn't it?

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News Item1/12/14 5:47 PM
acm | South Dakota  Contact via emailFind all comments by acm
kjg...Although I am not a fan of Hank Hanegraaff I have listened to his radio show for many years and I do not understand why you would say he is a proponent of theistic evolution."

While it is true that Hank believes in an old earth and he believes in what he calls micro-evolution (evolution within kinds) he adamantly and consistently refutes the idea that one type of animal evolves into another, or that man evolved from a lower form.

Here are some articles on the Christian Research Institute's website that give Hank's position on thesistic evolution. They make it clear that Hank
is not a proponent of theistic evolution:
http://www.equip.org/bible_answers/what-about-theistic-evolution/
http://www.equip.org/articles/neither-human-evolution-nor-theistic-evolution-1/
http://www.equip.org/articles/ten-urgent-questions-and-answers-about-origins/

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News Item1/9/14 5:11 AM
YE believer | UK  Find all comments by YE believer
I Believe God got it right first time. Yes I believe God. six days , no more , no less and on the seventh He rested.
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News Item1/4/14 4:17 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
DJC49 wrote:
Neil,
There were a few kooks in the 1800's who did.
Oh. I thought this was the time when the textbook myth arose that Columbus was opposed by Flat-Earthers like his crew. Actually, Columbus badly underestimated the Earth's circumference; Vasco de Gama had it right, but who remembers that?
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News Item1/4/14 3:04 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Silofolous wrote:
15 hours ago
"Jim Lincoln from Nebraska writes:
I think we can all agree there are Fatal Flaws in Evolution (PDF file). I think Mr. Ham has become more sophisticated over the years, but I think such debates should really be between scientist vs. scientist to make the discussion more meaningful to non-Christians or better, to nominal Christians. Some Interesting Statements By Scientists: (only one is by a biblical creationist)"
I disagree. The nature of origins is not something that can be observed, measured, or repeated. Therefore, since the scientific method cannot be applied to the nature of origin, it is not a matter of science. We don't need two scientists saying that non-science is science.
Well, I agree on The Scientific Case Against Evolution and I would add, Evolution Is Religion--Not Science. I just happen to remember Mr. Ham from years ago, on the Ankerberg Show, and he gave a more emotional than rational responses to Evolutionary religion. What I have seen from his later writings he has become more polished. But Creationists can give good answers for their positions.
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News Item1/4/14 12:39 PM
DJC49 | Florida  Find all comments by DJC49
Neil wrote:
And who ever used the Bible to argue that the Earth is flat?
Neil,
There were a few kooks in the 1800's who did. Prior to these, absolutely no one did so. Google or Bing: "flat earth history"

BTW, today many Muslim mullahs argue for a flat earth! Amazing, no?

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News Item1/4/14 12:22 PM
DonLikesScience | Central NJ  Find all comments by DonLikesScience
In "A Reformed Approach to Science and Scripture", Dr. Keith A. Mathison presents some good related material on general and special revelation, and its interpretation. The ebook is free from ligonier.org .
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News Item1/4/14 11:49 AM
GsTexas | Texas  Find all comments by GsTexas
I mentioned this in another post, but the current evidence for anold earth is contingent upon the faulty assumption of uniformitarianism, which is the assumption that rates and processes have remained the same since the beginning of time, which the Bible shows to be wrong. As for Hugh Ross, he has the ridiculous belief that Flood was local not global, and also propagates the unbiblical gap theory, and would have you believe God made all manner of less sophisticated/developed men like Neanderthal etc., millions of years before he got it right with Adam and Eve. Obviously he has no regard for Scripture.
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News Item1/4/14 11:33 AM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
DonLikesScience wrote:
Current scientific evidence is stronger for "old-earth" view.
Using radiometric decay to infer the age of the Earth is the Fallacy of Induction. So is Uniformitarianism in general. A logical error cannot be “strong.”

And who ever used the Bible to argue that the Earth is flat?

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News Item1/4/14 11:17 AM
DonLikesScience | Central NJ  Find all comments by DonLikesScience
Current scientific evidence is stronger for "old-earth" view. Remember Bible was once used to "prove" flat-earth and geocentrism. I'm not saying science absolutely proves old-earth/old-universe, rather the current evidence points strongly to that view.
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News Item1/4/14 11:15 AM
JDHY | Florida  Find all comments by JDHY
That's going to be an awesome debate! Wish I could watch it. I hope Ken Ham beats him hands down.
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News Item1/4/14 10:50 AM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
Chris Frost wrote:
Hugh Ross is an old-earther.
I agree, Ross should NOT be considered a source of information for Biblical Creation let alone simple Physics
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News Item1/4/14 10:46 AM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
DonLikesScience wrote:
Hugh Ross and Ken Samples are very good at explaining science from a Christian perspective, and defending our views.
Actually, empirical science has nothing to report because it's fallacious. Neither AiG, Reasons to Believe, nor secular Darwinists grasp this.

All science can ever do is formulate tentative models of how nature works. They are never true, but they can be useful.

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News Item1/4/14 10:43 AM
Chris Frost | Indiana  Find all comments by Chris Frost
Hugh Ross is an old-earther.
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News Item1/4/14 10:33 AM
DonLikesScience | Central NJ  Find all comments by DonLikesScience
Hugh Ross and Ken Samples are very good at explaining science from a Christian perspective, and defending our views. See:
http://www.reasons.org/about/who-we-are
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News Item1/4/14 7:38 AM
kjg | Kansas  Protected NameFind all comments by kjg
"TeenChristian from Georgia writes: Personally, while Ken Ham is great & all, I think Hank Hanegraaf (I think I misspelled his last name) would be better equipped to defend creation. But that's just me."

TeenChristian, I do not know if you are aware that Mr. Hanegraaff is a proponent of theistic evolution.

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News Item1/4/14 7:21 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
I have listened to more debates than I can remember, whether it be against evolutionary apologists, Roman priests and Bishops, Christian against Christian, whoever. I always like to hear how the other side argues, but what always makes me a bit weary about debates like this is that I have watched many Christians be taken to the cleaners. Some people do a great job on paper, where they can put thought into what they are trying to convey, prove, or whatever, but when put on the spot against professional apologists, their brains don't process the information fast enough or they're simply not equipped to answer the more technical, less thought about questions.
As with any other, I hope this one is productive.
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