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Far From Happy Christmas for Christians in the Holy Land

There are 14 million Christians throughout the Holy Land but they are a rapidly dwindling minority. Many of them are so desperately vulnerable that they feel they have no choice now but to emigrate. In Iraq alone, since the fall of Saddam, a startling two-thirds have fled. Since 2003 at least a million have left. Most of them went to Syria. Now they face a second wave of displacement as they are no longer protected there. There have been reports of rape, murder and attacks directed at them and the Christian community lives in terror. When they feel they have to run for their lives they head for Turkey, Jordan and Lebanon. It is said that the ancient Syrian Armenian community has all but gone.

Egypt has seen churches being burnt and anti-Coptic rioting. In Gaza and on the West Bank, Christians are caught up in chaotic uncertainty. To be Christian in the Holy Land, the birthplace of Jesus, is to ...


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penny  Find all comments by penny
SteveR, just glad to clear things up.
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News Item1/26/14 10:46 AM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
penny wrote:
SteveR, reread my post, I said no such thing.
CAB, despite your confidence otherwise, there are Godly men that continue to pursue scholarship and preservation of the Word of God. it makes no sense they were chewing on a live person. especially when combining with meaning of "gnashing of teeth" in rest of NT. It doesn't make any sense. perhaps you should do some reading by doing a search on torah jews against Zionism. you will also see that jewish people have wide ranges of opinions. some in fact have similar humanitarian concerns for Palestinians. you paint broad strokes and do not listen.... let James 1:19-21 -- emphasis on word "listen".
Please accept my apology,

for I moment I thought you were consenting and holding CABS coat during her/his abuse of Scripture.

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News Item1/26/14 10:23 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Gnashing means the grinding of the teeth together, whether in pain or in anger. It does not mean chewing on food or Stephen.
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News Item1/26/14 9:43 AM
penny  Find all comments by penny
SteveR, reread my post, I said no such thing.

CAB, despite your confidence otherwise, there are Godly men that continue to pursue scholarship and preservation of the Word of God. it makes no sense they were chewing on a live person. especially when combining with meaning of "gnashing of teeth" in rest of NT. It doesn't make any sense. perhaps you should do some reading by doing a search on torah jews against Zionism. you will also see that jewish people have wide ranges of opinions. some in fact have similar humanitarian concerns for Palestinians. you paint broad strokes and do not listen.... let James 1:19-21 -- emphasis on word "listen".

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News Item1/26/14 9:33 AM
First rule of posting  Find all comments by First rule of posting
SteveR wrote:
Im sorry Penny & CAB, the Scriptures do not testify that Stephen was cannibalized. You are purposely inciting blood libel & doing the same to the Jews as our SA group of reprobates have done here daily to Catholics with partial truths. Yes, the truth drove that audience into a mad fury, but they didnt feast on Stephens flesh. More importantly, Stephen FORGAVE them.
First rule of Cannibalization: First kill your meal, then eat him. Its not the other way around. Blessed Stephen is matyred after the spiritually blind attacked him in vs 54.
Find brain to engage, then engage brain before posting. You would do well to heed the lesson.
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News Item1/26/14 9:22 AM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
penny wrote:
"When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed on him with their teeth." KJV
the KJV does say it. think I'll stick with NASB on this one!
"Now when they heard this, they were cut to the quick, and they began gnashing their teeth at him." NASB
Im sorry Penny & CAB, the Scriptures do not testify that Stephen was cannibalized. You are purposely inciting blood libel & doing the same to the Jews as our SA group of reprobates have done here daily to Catholics with partial truths. Yes, the truth drove that audience into a mad fury, but they didnt feast on Stephens flesh. More importantly, Stephen FORGAVE them.

First rule of Cannibalization: First kill your meal, then eat him. Its not the other way around. Blessed Stephen is matyred after the spiritually blind attacked him in vs 54.

Acts 7:54 When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed on him with their teeth. .. Acts 7:59 And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.

Acts 7:60 And he kneeled down, and cried with a loud voice, Lord, lay not this sin to their charge. And when he had said this, he fell asleep.

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News Item1/26/14 1:12 AM
CAB  Find all comments by CAB
penny wrote:
"When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed on him with their teeth." KJV
the KJV does say it. think I'll stick with NASB on this one!
"Now when they heard this, they were cut to the quick, and they began gnashing their teeth at him." NASB
Why? The KJB is carefully accurate, and would not mix words up to get a completely different meaning. The NASB is famous for mistranslation. Why when the Jews began to gnash on Stephen did he then "look up steadfastly into Heaven" and see the "glory of God" and "Jesus standing at the right hand of God looking down on him? Just because the Jews were grinding their teeth? KJB doesn't get its pronouns wrong, I always trust it. Always. I like modern versions to use for perusing, skipping through for a big picture, but for details and fine-tuning it's the KJB all the way.

And after this, Jews took Stephen out of the city and stoned him. Why? Because he was preaching Jesus. So if you find it hard to believe Stephen was making the Jews mad enough to cannibalize him, can you agree they were mad enough to stone him to DEATH?

Jesus promised, warned, this stuff WOULD happen. You do agree the Jews screamed to have Jesus crucified? Do you agree Jews hate and despise Jesus?

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News Item1/25/14 8:09 PM
penny  Find all comments by penny
DJC49 wrote:
The Jews cannibalized Stephen?
"When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed on him with their teeth." KJV

the KJV does say it. think I'll stick with NASB on this one!

"Now when they heard this, they were cut to the quick, and they began gnashing their teeth at him." NASB

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News Item1/25/14 2:40 PM
CAB  Find all comments by CAB
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Of course to be anti-Jewish is to be anti-Christian, Jesus was a Jew's Jew. One hopes that the influence of Identity: A 'Christian' Religion for White Racists isn't creeping back into this forum.
It was Jim L, not DJC49! Sorry.

I hate Christian Identity. I am not a wannabe Jew. I just want to be a Christian, a follower of Jesus. Lost tribes nonsense? Go get a blood test instead of thinking wishes will make it so. Or just go see a rabbi and take lessons like Madonna. I do not celebrate Jewish holidays and I cringe when I hear people call Jesus "Yeshua" -- as though they had a right to rename Jesus from what the Bible says.

Judaism is a religion, not a race, not a person. It is a false, evil religion. Probably the worst religion ever, since it is most focused on hatred of Jesus and Christianity. It is a murderous, hateful religion. The secret societies, Freemasonry come from Kabala, Talmud.

Talmud teaches how to lie, steal, cheat, rape little kids, that to "kill the best of the goyim is a virtue," that Jesus is a *** and his mother was a *** and that he is boiling in hot poop in Hell.

I don't like the way the Jews are treating the Palestinians!

Jews are CHRISTIAN? Are you c r a z y???

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News Item1/24/14 4:46 PM
CAB  Find all comments by CAB
Jim Lincoln wrote:
DJC49
Of course to be anti-Jewish is to be anti-Christian, Jesus was a Jew's Jew. One hopes that the influence of Identity: A 'Christian' Religion for White Racists isn't creeping back into this forum.
I hate Christian Identity. I am not a wannabe Jew. I just want to be a Christian, a follower of Jesus. Lost tribes nonsense? Go get a blood test instead of thinking wishes will make it so. Or just go see a rabbi and take lessons like Madonna. I do not celebrate Jewish holidays and I cringe when I hear people call Jesus "Yeshua" -- as though they had a right to rename Jesus from what the Bible says.

Judaism is a religion, not a race, not a person. It is a false, evil religion. Probably the worst religion ever, since it is most focused on hatred of Jesus and determination to eliminate Jesus and his followers and all non-Jews from the planet. It is a murderous, hateful religion, racist, wicked, occultic, and the Talmud teaches how to lie, steal, cheat, rape little kids, that to "kill the best of the goyim is a virtue," that Jesus is a *** and his mother was a *** and that he is boiling in hot poop in Hell. I don't like the way they're treating the Palestinians.

Jews are NOT CHRISTIAN. Are you c r a z y???

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News Item1/24/14 3:21 PM
CAB  Find all comments by CAB
the Book teaches wrote:
CAB
The beginning of the chapter states
Rom 11:1 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew.
Also Paul states
"For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:" Romans 9.
This Arminian philosophy of yours is having an effect on your reading CAB. Maybe you should become a Biblical Calvinist and receive the whole counsel of God.
Read it. It says "God has not cast away his people WHO HE FOREKNEW." REMNANT!

Other scripture says that those God foreknows he predestines to be conformed to the image of Jesus.

God knows those who will/do believe in him, because God "reveals himself in his creation and there is no excuse for anybody not to believe." So God knows, not because he's got a robot script, but because he can see the end from the beginning, and he KNOWS who will believe. I believe our parents, time of birth and circumstances are chosen by God so that all can "work out to good to THOSE WHO LOVE GOD AND ARE CALLED ACCORDING TO HIS PURPOSE."

Harmonize. It's not saying EVERY JEW! Read it all, put it all together. The holy scriptures are "able to make us wise unto salvat

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News Item1/24/14 3:08 PM
the Book teaches  Find all comments by the Book teaches
CAB wrote:
And Paul said Romans 11:20: Well; because of unbelief they (the Jews) were BROKEN OFF, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
21 For if God SPARED NOT the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
They are broken off, God did not spare them. Lots more besides these scriptures. Go read.
A remnant to be saved at Second Coming.
CAB
The beginning of the chapter states
Rom 11:1 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew.

Also Paul states
"For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:" Romans 9.

This Arminian philosophy of yours is having an effect on your reading CAB. Maybe you should become a Biblical Calvinist and receive the whole counsel of God.

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News Item1/24/14 3:03 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
DJC49

Of course to be anti-Jewish is to be anti-Christian, Jesus was a Jew's Jew. One hopes that the influence of Identity: A 'Christian' Religion for White Racists isn't creeping back into this forum.

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News Item1/24/14 3:02 PM
CAB  Find all comments by CAB
DJC49 wrote:
The Jews cannibalized Stephen?
Really, CAB?
Now ... Have I ever read the Bible?
Evidently NOT the same one you read!
(THANK GOD)
Read the story of Stephen in Acts 6 and 7.

Stephen preached to the Jews, and when he was finished ...

Acts 7:

54 When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and THEY GNASHED ON HIM WITH THEIR TEETH.

55 But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up steadfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,

56 And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.

57 Then they cried out with a loud voice, and stopped their ears, and ran upon him with one accord,

58 And cast him out of the city, and stoned him: and the witnesses laid down their clothes at a young man's feet, whose name was Saul.

59 And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.

60 And he kneeled down, and cried with a loud voice, Lord, lay not this sin to their charge. And when he had said this, he fell asleep.
___

I don't know if this group swallowed his flesh and blood, but they were all gnashing on him, like a pack of wolves I'd say--sounds like Satanic cannibalism to

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News Item1/24/14 2:49 PM
DJC49 | Florida  Find all comments by DJC49
CAB wrote:
[snip] Thereafter, they [the JEWS] chased down the Christians and persecuted them, stoned Stephen, even cannibalized him.
The Jews cannibalized Stephen?
Really, CAB?

Now ... Have I ever read the Bible?

Evidently NOT the same one you read!
(THANK GOD)

Or maybe ...
Maybe your interpretation of Acts 7:54 gives you the impression that JEWS actually started gnawing on Stephen's flesh. You just don't know the English as used in the KJV!
Unfortunate.

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News Item1/24/14 2:45 PM
word  Find all comments by word
pennned wrote:
there is no room in the Christian faith for hating or implicating whole groups of people and writing them off.
be it:
Catholic
Jewish
Muslem
The precedent for this is Jesus words in Matthew chapter 23:
13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.
15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
16 Woe unto you, ye blind guides....
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News Item1/24/14 2:37 PM
pennned  Find all comments by pennned
there is no room in the Christian faith for hating or implicating whole groups of people and writing them off.

be it:

Catholic

Jewish

Muslem

Christians are not to be used as fodder for their strivings!

People will strive for power.

We are to love truth. To love God and neighbor. Let the light shine on these dark days. Let the agendas be opened for us to see. Let them know we are not crusadors of wore for the faux rapture god who comes at the bid of the strong armers, instead humble of heart, meek in spirit.

like the believers losing their lives in the ME.
.

history is always more complicated. history is not what is in our school books.

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News Item1/24/14 2:31 PM
CAB  Find all comments by CAB
DJC49 wrote:
Your obvious hatred for Jews would have served you better had you been born in Germany circa 1920. Then you could have actively taken part in Hitler's "Final Solution."
And YOU profess keeping the second part of God's greatest commandment?
Your remark above was in response to this:

CAB wrote: "The Jews are accursed, they are broken off branches, and pretty soon they are going to kill us all."

Have you ever read the Bible? I'm seriously asking. If you're familiar with scripture you know that condemnation of the Jews is THROUGHOUT the Old and New Testaments.

The Jews did curse THEMSELVES at Jesus' public trial--screamed and demanded, "Crucify him, crucify him. His blood be on our heads and our children's heads forever." They forced Pilate to crucify Jesus. Thereafter, they chased down the Christians and persecuted them, stoned Stephen, even cannibalized him.

And Paul said Romans 11:20: Well; because of unbelief they (the Jews) were BROKEN OFF, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
21 For if God SPARED NOT the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.

They are broken off, God did not spare them. Lots more besides these scriptures. Go read.

A remnant to be saved at Second Coming.

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News Item1/24/14 12:05 PM
CAB  Find all comments by CAB
a reliable source would help wrote:
and you know this because you have been to Israel?
I'm sure anything I'd offer would not be considered reliable, but you can Google and surf same as me. It's common knowledge, you must sign off to go to Israel, promise not to try to evangelize "God's Chosen". Try Bro. Nathanael's website realjewnews.com (former orthodox Jew, now Russian Orthodox Christian and whistleblower, get an ear full and learn a lot).

Here's an article for you, but you will say it's not "reliable" since Ted Pike has been fighting hate crime laws all his life, and his family before him, and is one reason why we still have any freedom of speech left, but it's shrinking fast. http://www.truthtellers.org/hate%20crimes/proselyte.html

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News Item1/24/14 11:58 AM
DJC49 | Florida  Find all comments by DJC49
CAB wrote:
The Jews are accursed, they are broken off branches, and pretty soon they are going to kill us all.
Your obvious hatred for Jews would have served you better had you been born in Germany circa 1920. Then you could have actively taken part in Hitler's "Final Solution."

And YOU profess keeping the second part of God's greatest commandment?

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