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WEDNESDAY, DEC 18, 2013| 11 comments
Bad News for American Religious Leaders When It Comes to ‘Honesty and Ethical Standards’

Clergy have traditionally held a revered place in American society, but new research from Gallup shows that the public’s view of faith leaders’ honesty and ethical standards is at a new low.

When asked, “How would you rate the honesty and ethical standards of people in the clergy?” 47 percent of those surveyed said very high or high, with 11 percent giving a low or very low rating.

This year marks the first time since Gallup started asking the question in 1977 that less than 50 percent of respondents rated clergy as having a high or very high rating for this measure. ...


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Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
It is a pity when atheists are in the vangard when it comes to pointing out the sins of the biggest cult which pretnds to be Christian. It blackens the name of Christianity worldwide http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/fighting_words/2010/09/a_call_for_earthly_justice.html (Holding the Catholic Church Accountable for Its Crimes) !
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News Item12/18/13 9:08 PM
Bloops  Find all comments by Bloops
Neil wrote:
So I think the failure of the organized church is part of a general collapse of our civilization, summarized well in this essay:
www.trinityfoundation.org/journal.php?id=226
"The prolific authors Norman Geisler and R. C. Sproul, and many lesser known Protestant theologians and philosophers as well, are disciples of the official philosopher of the Roman Church-State, Thomas Aquinas. Their influence has misled most Protestants away from a Biblical and Reformed view of philosophy and apologetics and into a compromise with Rome.

"The Protestant Reformation is indeed over; the respite of peace, freedom, and prosperity it afforded the West from the long history of human brutality is drawing to a close; and the world is about to enter a new Dark Age of slavery, brutality, and war."

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News Item12/18/13 6:51 PM
JSC | Illinois  Find all comments by JSC
Strat

What filter or measure does the world use to perceive whether a man is a crook or liar? Their own opinion?

Notice I talked about MY pastor. Now many men would take divinity because it made a good living. I believe a gigantic percentage are using a church to earn a living and unfortunately their success thrust them into the limelight to which the world takes their view of christianity albeit shallow.

The church is alive and radiant. The church is the true bride of Christ not false charlitans and crooks. We know that because we have the word of God that wieghs a man and the church he is responsible for. Hence my refering to not caring what the world thinks but caring what the word of God says about him and our church

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News Item12/18/13 6:51 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
The poll is rather meaningless if it included those who have nothing to do with clergy. Where would their opinions about the honesty and ethics of clergy come from? Movies? News media?
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News Item12/18/13 5:19 PM
Strat  Find all comments by Strat
JSC wrote:
This just told me those interviewed are unbelievers
My pastor is known for his amiable character in this town. A very Godly man that has a good name among even unbelievers
Again we need to carefully identify and qualify who we are talking about here.
I don't care what the world says about him, what does God's word say about him.
So the world doesn't know a crook and a liar when they see one,what does God say about crooks and liars ? what does it say about people who support them and wish them well ? The modern church with its taken out of context "judge not" dogma has put forth many a crook and liar in the pulpit.The bible speaks clearly about those who make merchandise of the gospel but many man worshiping church goers couldn't care less about what it says
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News Item12/18/13 3:08 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
If one understood ESCHATOLOGY--Different Rapture Views and Pre- Vs Post Tribulational Rapture. One shouldn't be surprised by the inevitable end. With The Fallibility of Ministers the most important thing is to worry about is false teaching, but personal honesty and integrity can't be ignored. Unfortunately, too many people are familiar with the likes of televangelists, like the one who has just died, than they are to ones in their own communities, and too often the sheep really get clipped by these parachurch leaders! A good free e-booklet to look over is, The Church: God's Program for Ministry
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News Item12/18/13 2:11 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
I have complained a lot about Pastor Disasters, but ethically challenged or clueless laymen are also part of the problem. Despite being immersed in Scripture, in my experience, they have little notion of integrity, nor empathy with people who are wronged, esp. by church leaders whom they sinfully idolize & protect at all costs.

So I think the failure of the organized church is part of a general collapse of our civilization, summarized well in this essay:
www.trinityfoundation.org/journal.php?id=226

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News Item12/18/13 1:03 PM
JSC | Illinois  Find all comments by JSC
This just told me those interviewed are unbelievers

My pastor is known for his amiable character in this town. A very Godly man that has a good name among even unbelievers

Again we need to carefully identify and qualify who we are talking about here.

I don't care what the world says about him, what does God's word say about him.

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News Item12/18/13 9:31 AM
Observer  Find all comments by Observer
SteveR wrote:
2 Kings 17:32 So they feared the LORD, and made unto themselves of the lowest of them priests of the high places, which sacrificed for them in the houses of the high places.
2 Kings 17:33 They feared the LORD, and served their own gods, after the manner of the nations whom they carried away from thence.
From Adam Clarke
"Verse 32. "Of the lowest of them priests" - One priest was not enough for this motley population; and, as the priesthood was probably neither respectable nor lucrative, it was only the lowest of the people who would enter into the employment.
Verse 33. "They feared the Lord, and served their own gods" - They did not relinquish their own idolatry but incorporated the worship of the true God with that of their idols. They were afraid of Jehovah, who had sent lions among them; and therefore they offered him a sort of worship that he might not thus afflict them: but they served other gods, devoted themselves affectionately to them, because their worship was such as gratified their grossest passions, and most sinful propensities.
Describes Roman Catholicism to a tee!
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News Item12/18/13 9:26 AM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
get real wrote:
when clergy wont get real with themselves how do you expect us to trust them?
they are lying cowards,.
2 Kings 17:32 So they feared the LORD, and made unto themselves of the lowest of them priests of the high places, which sacrificed for them in the houses of the high places.

2 Kings 17:33 They feared the LORD, and served their own gods, after the manner of the nations whom they carried away from thence.

From Adam Clarke

"Verse 32. "Of the lowest of them priests" - One priest was not enough for this motley population; and, as the priesthood was probably neither respectable nor lucrative, it was only the lowest of the people who would enter into the employment.

Verse 33. "They feared the Lord, and served their own gods" - They did not relinquish their own idolatry but incorporated the worship of the true God with that of their idols. They were afraid of Jehovah, who had sent lions among them; and therefore they offered him a sort of worship that he might not thus afflict them: but they served other gods, devoted themselves affectionately to them, because their worship was such as gratified their grossest passions, and most sinful propensities.

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News Item12/18/13 9:04 AM
get real | earth  Find all comments by get real
when clergy wont get real with themselves how do you expect us to trust them?
they are lying cowards, protecting their cushy positions, they ask for my tithe when they are fat and all their children have been fed clothed and sent to college in high style, whilst my children need medical and food, they come to my uninsulated shack that i decorated with thrift shop cast offs and tell me i an STEALING FROM GOD.

they have dainty soft girly hands when my husband is skinny bent from burden and caked in work dirt and hobbles instead of walks upright, they encourage us in our heavy burdens with songs of the suicided (the night of pain will soon be ending, by Jochen Klepper)
how horrifying is that?
well how horrifying is going to hell for eternity, for judgment begins at the pulpit ...

Gallup poll: Americans rate ministers’ ethics below 50 percent

http://www.news-record.com/news/local_news/article_176442b0-6790-11e3-a797-001a4bcf6878.html

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