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TUESDAY, DEC 17, 2013  |  47 comments
Nigerian Pastor Who Preaches With Armed Guards Rebuked for Saying 'Catholics Going to Hell,' Calling Pope 'Anti-Christ'

Nigerian televangelist and Pastor Chris Okotie stands by the inflammatory comments he made during a recent church service in which he claimed that "all Catholics will go to hell" and called the pope "an Anti-Christ', among other things. The controversial preacher's remarks were widely reported online by Nigerian media and swiftly rebuked by religious and nonreligious readers. PMNewsNigeria.com reports:

Fifty-five year old Okotie, while preaching in his Household of God Church in Ikeja area of Lagos, western Nigeria, said the Catholic church is "a counterfeit church set up by Satan" and that Catholics "bow to idols and crucify Jesus every Sunday when they eat bread claiming they are eating Jesus' body."

"They are not Christians and have never been," Okotie told a stunned congregation. ...


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News Item1/11/14 9:32 PM
Dr. Casey Smith | North Carolina, USA  Find all comments by Dr. Casey Smith
Read the best-selling book, THE GREAT GULF BETWEEN CATHOLICISM & CHRISTIANITY, a book that the Pope would love to see deleted from exposing the truth. The Pope is a replication of Simon the Sorcer, not Peter, and certainly not Christ's Vicar on earth - which assumption, acknowledgement, and belieF by anyone in or out of the RCC is blasphemy against the Holy Ghost. We don't need any man to teach us the truth when the Holy Spirit alone, as Jesus assured, will lead us "into all truth" and remind us of the "things I have spoken." To God be the glory!
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News Item12/21/13 11:01 AM
GsTexas | Texas  Find all comments by GsTexas
Observer wrote:
But, he's been told all this countless times over very many years. Just goes to prove that the spiritually dead don't hear so well!!

True that. These things are spiritually discerned, so he'll never see it, unless the Lord breaks his impenitent heart, and reveals his true standing with God.

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News Item12/21/13 7:07 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
John, we MUST be doers of the Word as well. We must. I know nothing anyone says on a personal level holds any clout with you, but you must not set aside all of God's own words that people post up for you to prove that what they are saying is accurate and true. Your views are very, very wrong...according to the bible itself
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News Item12/21/13 4:46 AM
Observer  Find all comments by Observer
GsTexas wrote:
John, are you seriously saying that you don't have to obey Scripture, because you believe your going to heaven?
Romans 6:1-2 "What shall we say then, shall we continue in sin, that sin may abound?
2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein."
Luke 14:33 "So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple."
James 1:22 "But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves."
James 2:19-20 "Thou believest there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe and tremble.
20 But wilt thou know O vain man, that faith without works is dead?"
To John's way of thinking he's got his ticket booked so nothing else matters. Problem is that the ticket he thinks he has is a fake, but he don't like to think of that! He'd rather go to hell believing what he does, cos he's in good company what with his brother, nephew and niece in law all having booked their seat the same way!

But, he's been told all this countless times over very many years. Just goes to prove that the spiritually dead don't hear so well!!

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News Item12/21/13 2:12 AM
GsTexas | Texas  Find all comments by GsTexas
John, are you seriously saying that you don't have to obey Scripture, because you believe your going to heaven?

Romans 6:1-2 "What shall we say then, shall we continue in sin, that sin may abound?
2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein."

Luke 14:33 "So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple."

James 1:22 "But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves."

James 2:19-20 "Thou believest there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe and tremble.
20 But wilt thou know O vain man, that faith without works is dead?"

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News Item12/19/13 10:22 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Not that anyone did here...just sayin'
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News Item12/19/13 8:09 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
By the way, people don't need to use the "000" following my name...it has no significance. When I first found the site, I tried to post using just my name but the system said the name was taken, so I threw a few zeros after it to get on.
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News Item12/19/13 8:00 AM
Observer  Find all comments by Observer
Christopher000 wrote:
Right, Observer...trusting in Christ as Lord and Savior as a stand alone really doesn't work because fruits must follow. Like I said to Steve yesterday, can one claim to adore God, yet work against; believing and practicing doctrines and rituals which are diametrically opposed to His own Word?...
Precisely Christopher! The change of nature that takes place at a genuine conversion means that there is a hatred of sin, of error and all that opposes Christ. Something that JY is a stranger to, which is why we never ever hear him speaking of his experiences as a born again Christian. He doesn't have any to speak of. Can someone who has a daily walk with the Lord remain silent on experiential Christianity? Can they hold so lightly to his word? Can they maintain the silly stance that in their head they trust Christ and nothing else matters, not even obedience to his clear commands? Can they remain in the harlot church that is guilty of the blood of God's people, and compounds its errors with every passing year?

Only if they know nothing of genuine conversion!

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News Item12/19/13 7:51 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Right, Observer...trusting in Christ as Lord and Savior as a stand alone really doesn't work because fruits must follow. Like I said to Steve yesterday, can one claim to adore God, yet work against; believing and practicing doctrines and rituals which are diametrically opposed to His own Word?
Similarily can anyone who says they trust in Christ not obey His written commands? Can they utter the words yet remain tight with and defend a system that works against Him on such a grand scale? To trust Christ is to love Him, and to live Him is to so all that He commands...to the best of our abilities anyway. Say I found a new church home and they taught even one fatal, unbiblical doctrine, prayed to or for the deceased, etc...I would get up and leave immediately.
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News Item12/19/13 5:22 AM
Observer  Find all comments by Observer
John Yurich USA wrote:
What it states in those verses is not required for entering Heaven upon ones demise as the only thing required for entering Heaven upon ones demise is to trust in Jesus alone for salvation.
That's right folk you heard it here first. Obedience to Christ is not necessary for entrance in heaven, so long as you trust him. How does one "trust" without obedience? Well we have a marvellous example in JY of someone who wants a cheap ticket to heaven. That's why he changed from Romanism because he found a cheaper ticket! Ha!
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News Item12/19/13 5:03 AM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
GsTexas wrote:
1 Timothy 6:3-5 "If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;
4 He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,
5 Perverse disputungs of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing gain is godliness: FROM SUCH WITHDRAW THYSELF."
John Y, you have no excuse after reading that to remain in the RCC. You are told to withdraw thyself from false prophets, and those that teach false doctrine. There is no arguing with Gods word. Really curious as to how you respond to these verses.
What it states in those verses is not required for entering Heaven upon ones demise as the only thing required for entering Heaven upon ones demise is to trust in Jesus alone for salvation.
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News Item12/19/13 1:31 AM
GsTexas | Texas  Find all comments by GsTexas
1 Timothy 6:3-5 "If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;
4 He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,
5 Perverse disputungs of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing gain is godliness: FROM SUCH WITHDRAW THYSELF."

John Y, you have no excuse after reading that to remain in the RCC. You are told to withdraw thyself from false prophets, and those that teach false doctrine. There is no arguing with Gods word. Really curious as to how you respond to these verses.

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News Item12/18/13 6:13 PM
Leon Jones | sydney  Contact via emailFind all comments by Leon Jones
I like to say that the Preacher is true in his statement however we need to understand the context too. Because Catholics are not Born Again. I would recommend everyone to read about Reformation Movement and for the meaning of "Faith Alone". Bible says "If you know the truth, the truth would set you free. I would say if the person truly Born Again,He/She would leave the catholic church because you cannot stand false worship and doctrines.
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News Item12/18/13 3:43 PM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Hi John, the issue isn't about what particular church one attends, or even going to church for that matter. The whole issue is about leaving a system that has invented their own fatal doctrines and defys the Word of God on so many levels. This is about finding a church that sticks to the Word of God for all instruction, guidance, doctrine, etc., or just staying home to study. SteveR even said at one point that he'd like to see you move on, and for good reason. I know you stay because you suffer from clinical grade shyness; being nervous people will try to talk to you in new surroundings. I understand and can sympathize, but facts are facts...
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News Item12/18/13 2:57 PM
Observer  Find all comments by Observer
John Yurich USA wrote:
Just who do you think you are anyway to state that I am not trusting in Jesus alone for salvation? How arrogant can anybody be? I am not trusting in the Catholic Church for salvation that is for sure. Just because I attend the Catholic Church does not automatically mean that I am not trusting in Jesus alone for salvation. That is pretty stupid to assume that. When I embraced Jesus as my Savior during an Altar Call at my brother's Non Denominational Church I started trusting in Jesus alone for salvation at that moment.
Blah, blah, blah....

Pretty stupid statements!

YE MUST BE BORN AGAIN!

Why don't you tell us all your conversion experience JY. You had some sort of experience, yes? Tell us all what happened.

I'll tell you what I think happened. You believe in Jesus like you believe that the moon revolves around the earth. Day to day it makes no difference to you one iota. Sure you go through the rituals of 'worship' once a week, but you haven't a clue what it is that everyone goes on about when they talk about their experiences with The Lord.

Over to you JY.... Lets have it like it happened.

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News Item12/18/13 12:43 PM
JSC | Illinois  Find all comments by JSC
To John Yurin

Some of the responses are very harsh and not in keeping with the biblical model we have been given. I am sorry for this.

But I would exhort you strongly to trust the Lord in this; you must leave that church and find a good protestant reformed church with Godly men that model 1 Timothy and fall under their leadership and guidance in the scriptures. You will not get this in a catholic church, it is impossible. You need Godly men to train you and hold you to a scriptural account.

The commision at the end of Matthew states "TEACHING them all I command and lo I am with you." Notice then Christ is with him, only then. 1 Timothy 4:16 "take heed to your doctrine for it will save you and your hearers" I appreciate other's concerns and I believe this to be why.

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News Item12/18/13 12:29 PM
GsTexas | Texas  Find all comments by GsTexas
I meant to say from false prophets and those that teach heresy. Ignore the typo.
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News Item12/18/13 12:04 PM
GsTexas | Texas  Find all comments by GsTexas
John Y wrote:
When I embraced Jesus as my Savior during an Altar Call at my brother's Non Denominational Church I started trusting in Jesus alone for salvation at that moment.

Good, now you need to take the next step and leave the RCC. I don't say this to be mean, but because it simply is not expedient to remain in a church that blasphemes our Lord Jesus Christ. In other words it will do you no good spiritually to stay there. Like I've posted before, the Bible commands us to avoid, and remove ourselves from those that teach false prophets and those that teach heresy. Please consider what I'm telling you. Don't take my word for it, search the Scriptures and it will be abundantly obvious.

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News Item12/18/13 9:55 AM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Observer wrote:
1. No its not false to state that all Catholics are unsaved.
2. You are not born again.
3. As for you trusting Jesus - only in your head.
Just who do you think you are anyway to state that I am not trusting in Jesus alone for salvation? How arrogant can anybody be? I am not trusting in the Catholic Church for salvation that is for sure. Just because I attend the Catholic Church does not automatically mean that I am not trusting in Jesus alone for salvation. That is pretty stupid to assume that. When I embraced Jesus as my Savior during an Altar Call at my brother's Non Denominational Church I started trusting in Jesus alone for salvation at that moment.
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News Item12/18/13 6:46 AM
Observer  Find all comments by Observer
John Yurich USA wrote:
That is false to state that all Catholics are not saved. I am saved and Born Again because I trust in Jesus alone for salvation and not the Sacraments.
1. No its not false to state that all Catholics are unsaved.

2. You are not born again.

3. As for you trusting Jesus - only in your head.

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