members, click to sign in..

6,266 active users!!Bandwidth
TUESDAY
OCT 21, 2014
Home
NewsSITE
Events & Blogs
New Audio & Video
BroadcastersNew Stuff!
Local Church Finder
Webcast LIVE NOW!
Sermons by Bible
Sermons by Topic
Sermons by Speaker
Sermons by Date
Staff Picks
CommentsALL -20 min
Top Sermons
VideosPDFs
Daily Log
PhotosNew Stuff!
Stores
Online Bible
Hymnal
Daily Reading
Our Services
Submit Sermon
Members Only

 
RELIGION, CURRENT EVENTS, TECHNOLOGY Subscribe to the breaking newsWhat is RSS?
FRONT PAGE  |  10/21/2014
WEDNESDAY, NOV 27, 2013  |  500 comments
Calvinism: Mohler, Hankins hold 'conversation'
Southern Baptists need to "learn the table manners of denominational life" when discussing Calvinism, R. Albert Mohler Jr. said during a "conversation" with Mississippi pastor Eric Hankins at Southern Baptist Theological Seminary.

Mohler, president of Southern Seminary, and Hankins, pastor of First Baptist Church in Oxford, Miss., co-chaired a 19-member Calvinism Advisory Committee that issued a unanimous report in May to Executive Committee President Frank Page, who assembled the group. While acknowledging tension over Calvinism within the Southern Baptist Convention, the report urged Southern Baptists to "grant one another liberty" on the doctrine while joining arms for the Great Commission.

In recent years, a debate about Calvinism, a term associated with the doctrine of salvation taught by 16th-century theologian John Calvin has generated controversy within the SBC, with each side of the ...


CLICK HERE to Read Entire Article
www.bpnews.net

   04/08/14  |  PBS Looks at New Calvinism • 151 comments
   04/04/14  |  Author says Calvinism can’t make sense of the cross • 368 comments
   01/05/14  |  Evangelicals Find Themselves in the Midst of a Calvinist Revival • 500 comments
   06/11/13  |  Baptist Press: Why Calvinists and Arminians (and those in... • 323 comments
   06/02/13  |  Calvinism committee issues report, urges SBC to 'stand together'... • 131 comments
MORE RELATED ( CALVINISM ) NEWS | MORE..
   10/18/14  |  Gay marriage becomes legal in Arizona • 16 comments
   10/18/14  |  Ted Cruz: "Real Risk" Of Pastors Being Jailed For Preaching... • 11 comments
   10/18/14  |  Rev. Billy Graham: ‘America is Just as Wicked as Sodom and... • 26 comments
   10/16/14  |  Mark Driscoll resigns • 16 comments
   10/15/14  |  Houston demands oversight of sermons • 28 comments
OTHER CHOICE NEWS | MORE..
   06/02/14  |  A Letter to SermonAudio From a Missionary to Haiti • 10 comments
   02/07/14  |  Bringing the Gospel of John to Every Home in Austin, TX • 31 comments
   01/07/14  |  SermonAudio Partners with RFC for the 2014 Family Conference at... • 1 comments
   01/01/14  |  Happy New Year from SermonAudio! • 29 comments
   12/10/13  |  SermonAudio Broadcaster Loses Historic Church Building To Fire • 3 comments
OTHER CHOICE NEWS | MORE..
   10/21/14  |  Obama names his favorite Supreme Court decision
   10/21/14  |  The Pastor’s Wife Effect
   10/21/14  |  Government Is Forcing Islam On This School In An Unbelievable Way • 3 comments
   10/21/14  |  Fake IRS agents scare many consumers into paying up
   10/21/14  |  Saudi Arabia steps up beheadings • 5 comments
OTHER RECENT NEWS | MORE..

COMMENTS | show all | add new  
    Sorting Order:  
· Page 1 ·  Found: Last 500 user comments shown
News Item3/9/14 1:10 PM
Duh  Find all comments by Duh
John UK wrote:
Acts 15:1-2 KJV
1 And certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved.
2 When therefore Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and disputation with them, they determined that Paul and Barnabas, and certain other of them, should go up to Jerusalem unto the apostles and elders about this question.
Please notice that even if you read the whole context, there is no mention here of "baptism replacing circumcision". Funny that the apostles didn't mention that, when confronted with the issue.
The claim that the early church held the Presby version of things is a false claim and ought to be looked at in all sincerity, in seeking out the truth and rejecting the lie.
Presbys like to fill in the blanks where Scripture is silent. They call it 'just and necessary consequences'.
500

News Item3/9/14 11:56 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Acts 15:1-2 KJV
1 And certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved.
2 When therefore Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and disputation with them, they determined that Paul and Barnabas, and certain other of them, should go up to Jerusalem unto the apostles and elders about this question.

Please notice that even if you read the whole context, there is no mention here of "baptism replacing circumcision". Funny that the apostles didn't mention that, when confronted with the issue.

The claim that the early church held the Presby version of things is a false claim and ought to be looked at in all sincerity, in seeking out the truth and rejecting the lie.

499

News Item3/7/14 4:23 PM
Duh  Find all comments by Duh
the oath wrote:
13 For when God made promise to Abraham, because he could swear by no greater, he sware by himself,
14 Saying, Surely blessing I will bless thee, and multiplying I will multiply thee.
15 And so, after he had patiently endured, he obtained the promise.
16 For men verily swear by the greater: and an oath for confirmation is to them an end of all strife.
17 Wherein God, willing more abundantly to shew unto the heirs of promise the immutability of his counsel, confirmed it by an oath:
18 That by two immutable things, in which it was impossible for God to lie, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold upon the hope set before us:
19 Which hope we have as an anchor of the soul, both sure and stedfast, and which entereth into that within the veil;
20 Whither the forerunner is for us entered, even Jesus, made an high priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.
Your point being?
498

News Item3/7/14 3:21 PM
the oath  Find all comments by the oath
13 For when God made promise to Abraham, because he could swear by no greater, he sware by himself,
14 Saying, Surely blessing I will bless thee, and multiplying I will multiply thee.
15 And so, after he had patiently endured, he obtained the promise.
16 For men verily swear by the greater: and an oath for confirmation is to them an end of all strife.
17 Wherein God, willing more abundantly to shew unto the heirs of promise the immutability of his counsel, confirmed it by an oath:
18 That by two immutable things, in which it was impossible for God to lie, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold upon the hope set before us:
19 Which hope we have as an anchor of the soul, both sure and stedfast, and which entereth into that within the veil;
20 Whither the forerunner is for us entered, even Jesus, made an high priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.
497

News Item3/7/14 12:26 PM
Lurker  Protected NameFind all comments by Lurker
seeking truth wrote:
I guess we are finished with this Lurker. God Bless.
I guess we are so I'll leave you with this which, before our discussion, you may have been ignorant of....

Zec 11:4 Thus saith the LORD my God; 6 I will feed the flock of slaughter, even you, O poor of the flock. And I took unto me two staves; the one I called Beauty, and the other I called Bands; and I fed the flock. 8 Three shepherds also I cut off in one month; and my soul lothed them, and their soul also abhorred me. 10 And I took my staff, even Beauty, and cut it asunder, that I might break my covenant which I had made with all the people. 12 And I said unto them, If ye think good, give me my price; and if not, forbear. So they weighed for my price thirty pieces of silver. 13 And the LORD said unto me, Cast it unto the potter: a goodly price that I was prised at of them. And I took the thirty pieces of silver, and cast them to the potter in the house of the LORD. 14 Then I cut asunder mine other staff, even Bands, that I might break the brotherhood between Judah and Israel.

..... but now you have no excuse.

Psa 119:11 Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against thee.

496

News Item3/7/14 8:20 AM
seeking truth  Find all comments by seeking truth
Lurker wrote:
So why do you keep trying to slide a loaded question through? Isn't the truth sufficient to stand on its own merit
Lurker
No not loaded, just creating thought. Sometimes that is what a question does.
If you had answered #(1) then it would "disturb" ye olde Baptist Tradition. And you cannot do that can you?
If you had answered #(2) Then God would have become less than omnipotent and less omniscient, I might even add less sovereign. So obviously #2 is a definite No!!

Your answer must be #1. *God was right* when HE ordained the Covenant of Grace to be "everlasting." And of course it is. Christ Jesus is the Mediator of the Everlasting Covenant of Grace. He was in Abraham's day and always has been.

As for the "land" - Where do the Jews live today?

Incidentally the word "Unilateral" is very important to the Covenant. The unilateral nature of the Covenant is highlighted in Genesis 15:17. Thus man's "responsibilities" in the Covenant cannot break the Covenant, and never did. The 'elect' have always been in Covenant, Christ has always been the Mediator of the Covenant - And yes it has always been everlasting.

"the truth (IS) sufficient to stand on its own merit"

I guess we are finished with this Lurker. God Bless.

495

News Item3/6/14 5:20 PM
Speaking for the persecuted | No SteveR Hate  Find all comments by Speaking for the persecuted
SteveR wrote:
When legions of Roman Catholics come on SA to deny the wicked acts of the counter reformation, I will mete out the same. You like the RCC, cant escape the vile wickedness which plagued the forefathers of your past
The persecutions and killings by the RCC started a very long time before the counter reformation, silly!
494

News Item3/6/14 4:49 PM
What about Calvin  Find all comments by What about Calvin
SteveR wrote:
Not all Baptists are evil like those that caused so much pain and misery in your early years. Just as there are Saints today in the RCC, there are Saints in places like the SBC. One of the BEST Sermons I ever heard on the topic of Grace was by a baptist. So like Catholics, Baptists dont enjoy the fulness of reformed theology? So? Like the RCC, they have the Gospel.
However just as the spirit of idolatry infects the RCC, the Spirit of Munster envy has seduced some baptists here on this board.
Jude 1:11 Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core.
Steve says that because the reformers like Calvin and Zwingli did not persecute anyone

he that is without sin cast the first stone

493

News Item3/6/14 4:44 PM
Lurker  Protected NameFind all comments by Lurker
seeking truth wrote:
All right Lurker here is the question you need to deal with.
God declares in Scripture that the Abrahamic Covenant is everlasting.
So Question- (1) Was God right?
OR (2) Has history shown HIM to be wrong?
A loaded question, such as "Can God create a rock big enough that even He can't lift it?"

Gen 17:8
And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.

Neither is the land everlasting because heaven and earth will pass away; nor was Israel's possession of it everlasting. But, according to your selective reasoning, the covenant is.

So why do you keep trying to slide a loaded question through? Isn't the truth sufficient to stand on its own merit with out devious slight of hand?

492

News Item3/6/14 4:42 PM
SteveR | Mt Zion  Find all comments by SteveR
Speaking for the persecuted wrote:
As has been pointed out the vast majority of the Anabaptists had nothing to do with the few events that you clearly like to dwell on. The Anabaptists were pacifists and did not believe in using carnal weapons because they knew they were involved in a spiritual battle.
In what the radicals did, they imitated the Roman Catholics and reformed. Why such hatred of the vast majority based on an errant minority? Why not mete out the same treatment to Roman Catholics and reformed who between them have murdered literally millions? Oh wait, I forget because you're here to justify the Harlot church and the reformed in so far as they imitate the RCC.
When legions of Roman Catholics come on SA to deny the wicked acts of the counter reformation, I will mete out the same. You like the RCC, cant escape the vile wickedness which plagued the forefathers of your past
491

News Item3/6/14 4:19 PM
mourner | from T. Manton my Pastor  Find all comments by mourner
3. Because without a real personal entering into covenant, the covenant doth us no good; unless every one of us do choose God for our God and Lord, and particularly own him. Every man must give his hand to the Lord, and personally engage for himself. It is not enough that Christ engage for us in being our surety, but we must take a bond upon ourselves. Something Christ did for us and in our name, he interposed as the surety of a better testament, Heb. 7.22. Something must be done personally by us before we can have benefit by it. You must give up yourselves to the Lord. It is not enough that the church engage for us, but every man must engage his own heart to draw nigh to God: Jer. 30.21, ‘Who is he that engageth his heart to draw nigh to me?’ It is not enough that our parents did engage for us, Deut. 29.10-12. They did in the name of their little ones avouch God to be their God, as we devote, dedicate, and engage our children to God in baptism; but no man can savingly transact this work for another. We ratify the covenant in our own persons, 2 Cor. 9.13, by a professed subjection to the gospel of Christ. This is a work cannot be done by a proxy, or assignees; unless we personally enter into covenant with God for ourselves, our dedication by our parents will not profit
490

News Item3/6/14 2:59 PM
The answer  Find all comments by The answer
morehelps wrote:
That's the whole point - "Baptists understanding"
"The Covenant of Grace"
http://www.the-highway.com/Covenant_Murray.html
Duh!

Baptist= biblical = sense and light

Presby = fiction = dense and darkness

I'll take Baptist any day!

489

News Item3/6/14 2:51 PM
morehelps  Find all comments by morehelps
Helps wrote:
If you really want to see what Baptists understand by the Covenant of Grace, here is a very short read:
That's the whole point - "Baptists understanding"

"The Covenant of Grace"
http://www.the-highway.com/Covenant_Murray.html

488

News Item3/6/14 2:44 PM
The answer  Find all comments by The answer
seeking truth wrote:
All right Lurker here is the question you need to deal with.
God declares in Scripture that the Abrahamic Covenant is everlasting.
So Question- (1) Was God right?
OR (2) Has history shown HIM to be wrong?
The answer that any thinking person would come to is that the Abrahamic covenant was conditional, which it was, and as with all conditional covenants that ended when the people did not adhere to it.

"Everlasting" so long as the conditions were met!

Otherwise, you ignorant person, the land would also still belong to the Jews.

Shisssh! You really struggle with comprehension, don't you?!

487

News Item3/6/14 2:33 PM
seeking truth  Find all comments by seeking truth
Lurker wrote:
Zech 11:10 And I took my staff, even Beauty, and cut it asunder, that I might break my covenant which I had made with all the people
All right Lurker here is the question you need to deal with.

God declares in Scripture that the Abrahamic Covenant is everlasting.

So Question- (1) Was God right?
OR (2) Has history shown HIM to be wrong?

486

News Item3/6/14 12:30 PM
Speaking for the persecuted | No SteveR hate  Find all comments by Speaking for the persecuted
SteveR wrote:
Would you like me to post historical accounts of those early Anabaptists which led to their being hunted down like wild dogs?
As has been pointed out the vast majority of the Anabaptists had nothing to do with the few events that you clearly like to dwell on. The Anabaptists were pacifists and did not believe in using carnal weapons because they knew they were involved in a spiritual battle.

In what the radicals did, they imitated the Roman Catholics and reformed. Why such hatred of the vast majority based on an errant minority? Why not mete out the same treatment to Roman Catholics and reformed who between them have murdered literally millions? Oh wait, I forget because you're here to justify the Harlot church and the reformed in so far as they imitate the RCC.

485

News Item3/6/14 12:23 PM
Just to set the record | straight  Find all comments by Just to set the record
SteveR wrote:
Not all Baptists.. in your early years
Our early years date back to around 33 A.D.
484

News Item3/6/14 10:47 AM
SteveR | Mt Zion  Find all comments by SteveR
Speaking for the persecuted wrote:
The bitter hatred of the 'reformed' and Roman Catholics endures to this day against all those Baptists who profess the true faith.
Would you like me to post historical accounts of those early Anabaptists which led to their being hunted down like wild dogs?
483

News Item3/6/14 10:38 AM
Speaking for the persecuted | No SteveR Hate  Find all comments by Speaking for the persecuted
continuing

The simplicity and purity of the church of Christ, the voluntariness of man's belief, freedom of conscience, and the opposition of scripture to infants' baptism without which national reformed churches would have no existence, were the main features of the creed of that people whom papist and protestant, pope and king, alike strove to extirpate. The slaughter was great and indiscriminate. The well disposed and the evil minded were ranked in the same class. Under the pretence of crushing rebellion against the powers ordained of God, conscience was wounded in its tenderest part, its dictates were mocked and scorned, and pure truth and holy liberty driven away from nearly every continental state. During the three centuries that have since elapsed, despotism has ruled with an iron sway, and in these last days given birth to anarchy. The leaven was cast out that would have leavened the populations with its holy and saving power.
________________________________

The bitter hatred of the 'reformed' and Roman Catholics endures to this day against all those Baptists who profess the true faith.

As for SteveR, the ignorant Roman Catholic protagonist, given half the chance he would no doubt seek to repeat the bloodshed of the past.

482

News Item3/6/14 10:23 AM
SteveR | Mt Zion  Find all comments by SteveR
Speaking for the persecuted wrote:
continuing
It is not the editor's intention here to consider or deny whatever part the baptists may be said to have taken in the Peasant War, the Siege of Munster, or the riots at Amsterdam. It will be seen in the subsequent pages that the persons whose sufferings are recorded, denied all connexion with those lamentable events; and that in fact they held opinions on the subject of war and the use of carnal weapons, which must have led them to disapprove and oppose those movements.
Not all Baptists are evil like those that caused so much pain and misery in your early years. Just as there are Saints today in the RCC, there are Saints in places like the SBC. One of the BEST Sermons I ever heard on the topic of Grace was by a baptist. So like Catholics, Baptists dont enjoy the fulness of reformed theology? So? Like the RCC, they have the Gospel.

However just as the spirit of idolatry infects the RCC, the Spirit of Munster envy has seduced some baptists here on this board.

Jude 1:11 Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core.

481
There are a total of 500 user comments displayed | add new comment |Subscribe to these comments
Jump to Page : [1] 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 more | last
Last PostTotal
Hillsong's Brian Houston on Gay Marriage: 'I Believe the...
michael hranek from endicott, new york: " bishop brian said the most difficult..."
-17 min 
Government Is Forcing Islam On This School In An Unbelievable...
g haldens from uk: "'the department of education says that promoting “acceptance..."
-33 min 
Gay marriage becomes legal in Arizona
penned: "that's right. its the eugenics movement on the land. they do not want..."
-55 min 16 


The Results of Continued Sin

Scott T. Brown
Forsaken

Matthew
Sunday Service
Hope Baptist Church
Play! | MP3 | RSS

The Compassion of Christ
Dr. Curt D. Daniel

Pastor Ralph Ovadal
Rising Protestant Magisterium

Pilgrims Covenant Church
Sunday - AM
Play! | MP3

Kevin Swanson
The Vatican and Homosexuals

Who Will Stand for Truth?
Generations Radio
Play! | MP3

Blog 9/20/14
Protestant Gender Hypocrisy

Grace Community International
dear prayer warr­iors, a friend who as an educ­at­or...

Sponsor:
Westminster Assembly's Grand Debate

Prepub 19.95 +s/h. Papers on Congr­eg­at­ion­al­ism/ Presbyt­er­ian­ism. 12/14 Napht­ali Press
www.naphtali.com/news

Event: Reforming Families Conference 2015
FPC of Indianapolis






                   
A saving relationship with Christ always produces fruit. ... Alexander Simpson

City: Las Vegas, NV
Gospel of John
Cities | Local | Personal
MOBILE
iPhone + iPad
Church App
Android
Church App
Kindle + Nook
BlackBerry
Windows Mobile, Nokia
Chromecast TV
ROKU TV
Pebble Smartwatch
Kindle Reader


HELP
Knowledgebase
Broadcasters
Listeners
Q&A
Uploading Sermons
Uploading Videos
Webcasting
Tips & Tricks
YouTube Screencasts

FOLLOW
Weekly Newsletter
Staff Picks Feed
Site Notices
RSS | Twitter | Facebook
SERVICES | ALL
Local Church Finder | Info
MP3 Play & Download
Mobile Apps
Podcasting
Video Support
Live Webcasting
Transcription Service
HIFI Option
Business Cards
SOLO | MINI | Domains
Favorites
QR Codes
24x7 Radio Stream
INTEGRATION
Sermon Browser
HTML Codes
WordPress
Twitter
Facebook
Logos | e-Sword
SOAP API

BATCH
Transfer Agent
Protected Podcasts
Upload via Email
Auto-Upload Sermons
Auto-Blog Import
Picasa | FTP | Dropbox
ABOUT US
SermonAudio.com is the largest library of audio sermons from conservative churches and ministries worldwide. All broadcasters must adhere to the Articles of Faith.

Our Services | Testimonials
Broadcast With Us!
Support Us
Advertising | Local Ads
CONTACT
info@sermonaudio.com
Copyright © 2014 SermonAudio.com.