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FRONT PAGE  |  8/30/2015
TUESDAY, NOV 19, 2013  |  23 comments
Judge: Bible Talk Unacceptable on Job

A southwest Iowa grocery store owner who lectured an employee on her religious beliefs must pay her unemployment benefits, a state judge has ruled.

The store owner, Tyler Stille, says his faith is an integral part of his business and all of his 15 employees were made aware of that before they were hired.

“We have a Christian fish symbol on our sign,” he said. “Before we hire anybody, we tell them our faith. We play Christian music in our store all the time, and we always make sure that’s OK with them because that’s a part of our life.”

The employee, Sherri Chafin of Tabor, says Stille’s beliefs “didn’t bother me one bit — not until he started preaching to me and telling me that I had to read a part of the Bible.” ...


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News Item11/20/13 9:34 AM
SF from TX  Find all comments by SF from TX
Dorcas, I'll add em' to my prayer list
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News Item11/20/13 5:54 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Dorcas wrote:
A little bit of aged woman advice here if you don't mind.
In our zeal as new converts and very arminian in our theology we continually hammered our family and friends with talks, tracts and Christian books till they ran the opposite direction when they would se us coming .
As we grew in our understanding and realized that they had all been witnessed to many, many times we live it before them..they know who we are..they are lifted up daily to the throne of grace and we know that if any are the Lords they will hear His voice and follow Him.
Quite so, Dorcas, quite so.

It's remarkable that we have a glorious gospel concerning a wonderful Saviour who has by himself redeemed a vast multitude and has set down on the right hand of God making intercession far better than our's, and the message is about forgiveness of sins and the gift of eternal life and salvation from God's wrath......and.......

.......the natural man (in Adam) keeps himself as far away as he can from it, keeps himself out of the way of Christians, prefers darkness to light, prefers a publican to a presbyter, will argue his socks off.........BUT GOD.....

Sure, HE can do it.

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News Item11/19/13 11:16 PM
Dorcas | USA  Find all comments by Dorcas
Hello SF....I still have to preach myself a sermon every now and then because I fall into despair over both of our families as they are getting on in years and seem to be getting harder towards the things of the Lord.
I wil add your family to our prayer time.
Please if you remember...pray for ours!
All of Gods best to you and yours
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News Item11/19/13 10:22 PM
SF from TX  Find all comments by SF from TX
Dorcas, thanks for the wisdom. It's the sane as what my husband tells me. If I could I would drag my family into getting saved despite all their kicking and screaming.......but that's not the way it works.
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News Item11/19/13 7:37 PM
Anne | The Wild West  Find all comments by Anne
Dorcas, "nattering and pontificating"!? I have NO idea what you're talking about!

Apparently I am going to be giving birth to a world class gymnast... Yeah for healthy fetal movements! Boo hoo for my sides! Hahaha!

Enjoy your peace now away from the bickering! I'll look forward to your next bit of wisdom when it comes!

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News Item11/19/13 6:39 PM
Dorcas | USA  Find all comments by Dorcas
Anne..hello dear one hope all is well with you and yours.Thought of you when we watched the video on the twins and pray that you and your little one are doing well.
I have been checking in now and then on the forum to see what's new.
Had to take a little break for awhile...to much nattering and pontificating .
Amen to looking forward to Heaven...oh when we see Him......
Grace and Peace.
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News Item11/19/13 6:22 PM
Anne | The Wild West  Find all comments by Anne
Dorcas, so happy to see your post! Always grounding and edifying. I finished "Stepping Heavenward" and must say a big thanks. I am still digesting some of its finer points; suppose it will take a lifetime - but I think that was the point? I find much joy in knowing God is patient with someone like me who is NOT unlike Katherine, as I desire to know how to please Him on His terms and not my own. I look forward more and more to Heaven where this toil will be over and by Christ's own power He will somehow retain "me" but made perfect - how?! Only GOD can do that! As always, you're close in my prayers! God keep you!
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News Item11/19/13 5:34 PM
Dorcas  Find all comments by Dorcas
A little bit of aged woman advice here if you don't mind.
In our zeal as new converts and very arminian in our theology we continually hammered our family and friends with talks, tracts and Christian books till they ran the opposite direction when they would se us coming .
As we grew in our understanding and realized that they had all been witnessed to many, many times we live it before them..they know who we are..they are lifted up daily to the throne of grace and we know that if any are the Lords they will hear His voice and follow Him.
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News Item11/19/13 5:31 PM
Anne | The Wild West  Find all comments by Anne
To clarify:
"But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another. "(Galatians 5:22-26 KJV)
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News Item11/19/13 5:13 PM
Mr b  Find all comments by Mr b
Amen Anne , you hit the nail on the head!!
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News Item11/19/13 5:09 PM
Anne | The Wild West  Find all comments by Anne
Lisa, Christ spent most of His time healing, preaching and teaching, giving out truth to those who would hear as directed by the Holy Spirit; and while He never minced words and was direct without the fluff, He wasn't some argumentative loon either. He spoke what He spoke because He alone had the authority to do so. He was always in control, even in His anger. I am so puzzled at your view on who Christ is - first you seem to think Him some dour, unsmiling man of sorrow (with which He was obviously well acquainted) and now He is angry and confrontational? He gave His own creation marriage, a Husband above husbands, a hope, the promise of joy everlasting, children, peace which passes all understanding. He is to be reverenced as the God who is SLOW to anger and ABOUNDING in love! Maybe it would help to read Song of Solomon and the Psalms more often - they do not fit Him into a box but rather uncover a microcosm of His innumerable attributes - from wrath to intoxicating joy - and yes, FOR HIS OWN GLORY! And we can share in that joy because it makes Him happy when we are happy in Him! (His turning tables over wasn't a "come to Jesus" moment, either...)
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News Item11/19/13 5:00 PM
Mr b  Find all comments by Mr b
I never thought or said Christ was fluffy and lovey. I see that in the gospels. So you can challenge me all you like. I just shared what we are supposed to be like. And Christ may have not been fluffy and lovey but he sure did show mercy and compassion. I've never seen anyone win a soul by constantly forcing it down their throats. Christ never did that either. He twists no ones arm to follow Him
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News Item11/19/13 4:49 PM
Lisa | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by Lisa
Mr b wrote:
That's right. We cannot force christianity on anyone, or constantly preach to them . The best way to witness to a non believer is to live it out . They will take notice.

Can I challenge you that Christ was never fluffy and lovey- he was to be frank confrontational difficult and difficult to live with. He threw tables over in anger, he accused them of hypocrisy and spoke in a manner that the common man and the religious found completely confusing.
Can I challenge you that Christians who are confrontational maybe more Christ like.

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News Item11/19/13 3:25 PM
postey  Find all comments by postey
SteveR wrote:
So you would reply in the same manner if he had a Statue of Mary symbolizing his faith?
As you know Steve Roman Catholics are not real Christians. Therefore your insistence to seek approval of their idolatry is unbiblical and unchristian. The obvious difference is that people who display the fish sign do not replace God with it and commit pagan idolatry as your Roman Catholic brothers and sisters do.

You really must stop encouraging idolatry blasphemy heresy and other unbiblical satanic practices. Don't curse these idolaters you defend.....
Deut 27:15 Cursed be the man that maketh any graven or molten image, an abomination unto the LORD, the work of the hands of the craftsman, and putteth it in a secret place. And all the people shall answer and say, Amen.

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News Item11/19/13 2:05 PM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
GsTexas wrote:
You can't force Christianity on someone, either God is going to draw them in, or he isn't. Just give them the Gospel message, and pray God gives the increase.
John 6:44 "No man can come to me, except the father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day."
Well said GS, thanks! And it is so true that Christ loses none that are given to Him and He "will" raise them up on the last day. No RC or Arminianism there.
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News Item11/19/13 11:40 AM
Mr b  Find all comments by Mr b
The statue of Mary isn't going to help anyone. I don't know why people pray to her or the saints as they say.Jesus is the way truth and life , not Mary or the saints. I understand what you mean steveR .
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News Item11/19/13 11:38 AM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
Mr b wrote:
No steve , I don't have any symbols of christianity. I just try to iive it out. How do I know he's a christian ? I don't. The only way you can tell if some one is a christian is how they live, example , are they walking in humility and love? Are they at least trying to be self less? Maybe you like dagon and beads . I don't know. I'm not catholic . I believe in Jesus Christ and try to live out my faith. Do I fail ? Yes, am I perfect or better than anyone else? Absolutely not . I need Gods mercy and grace moment by moment.
Thats good to hear

So you would reply in the same manner if he had a Statue of Mary symbolizing his faith?

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News Item11/19/13 11:36 AM
GsTexas | Texas  Find all comments by GsTexas
True SteveR, he might not be of the elect at all, but just a self proclaimed Christian. I also agree that the "Jesus fish" has no basis in Scripture, but its origins go back to Dagon.
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News Item11/19/13 11:32 AM
Mr b  Find all comments by Mr b
No steve , I don't have any symbols of christianity. I just try to iive it out. How do I know he's a christian ? I don't. The only way you can tell if some one is a christian is how they live, example , are they walking in humility and love? Are they at least trying to be self less? Maybe you like dagon and beads . I don't know. I'm not catholic . I believe in Jesus Christ and try to live out my faith. Do I fail ? Yes, am I perfect or better than anyone else? Absolutely not . I need Gods mercy and grace moment by moment.
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News Item11/19/13 9:50 AM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
Mr b wrote:
That's right. We cannot force christianity on anyone, or constantly preach to them . The best way to witness to a non believer is to live it out . They will take notice.
“We have a Christian fish symbol on our sign,” he said.

How do you know he is a Christian? So far all we know is he engages in idolatry and preaches from the Bible like Catholics

Or is Dagons symbol more acceptable to you than beads & replicas of Saints?

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