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FRONT PAGE  |  12/9/2016
SUNDAY, NOV 3, 2013  |  117 comments
Daylight Saving Time 2013: When Does It End? And Why?

With an extra hour of sleep and an earlier sunset, daylight saving time (also called daylight savings time) ends this weekend.

That means clock confusion is once again ticking away, giving rise to hotly debated questions: Why do we spring forward and fall back? Does daylight saving time (DST) really save energy? Is it bad for your health? Here are some answers from the experts.


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News Item11/9/13 12:00 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
While we have went off DST just recently, but most of Australia may have recently went on it, does this mean they have to shift coffee time. Wake up and postpone the coffee.
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News Item11/9/13 11:33 AM
mourner  Find all comments by mourner
Those I love I rebuke and chasten; would seem to indicate they are loved by the Lord; he loved the rich young ruler who seems to fit into Mr. Durham's definition of legal repentance. Some are even brought to an 'experience of great gratitude for what the Savior has done for them Luke 7:47 but it isn't finished until they understand that the Covenant of Works brings death and the Covenant of Grace alone brings eternal life. Dead men cannot initiate a Covenant as they are dead in trespasses and sins. Ye must be born again. The gift of faith alone makes a man capable of repentance unto life. He was crucified with Christ, nevertheless he lives by the faith of Christ, who is his life. The life is in the blood and His perfect humanity is theirs by faith, though our sanctification is imperfect in this life. He is the Word of God and teaches us by it, he breaks Truth to us, what we need to live by our daily portion of it.

The opening of the door of the heart in Rev 3 is hearing & opening to Christ as the alone Savior for poor sinners and in so completing our repentance unto life we close with our Prophet, Priest and King in supping with Him a Covenant meal, like a marriage supper. We shall be satisfied when we see Him as he is and then we will be like our glorious Head.

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News Item11/9/13 5:53 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Can the unsaved be lukewarm?

Somehow I always thought of the unsaved as living corpses, dead to God and incapable of anything which needs life.

But then Wurzel, being the arminist that he is, imagines that when Jesus dictated letters to the churches (ecclesias), he was writing to the unsaved. And because he believes that the unsaved can be lukewarm towards God, maybe he believes that they can, without the Spirit, stoke up the fire and get themselves a bit warmer. Och aye, it's the old arminist "man doing his little bit" again.

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News Item11/9/13 1:20 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
it is something of a pity that I haven't noticed any one commenting on how daring SA was and taking an article, which is quite neutral towards Christianity in itself, from a magazine what your so Pro Evolution! Perhaps only one other magazine which I haven't looked at for years is so pro evolutionary as the National Geographic and that is scientific American. I assume is still being published. So, I would suggest you follow the straight and narrow and read just the articles and not stray to whatever is to the side of them! Why did I use the plural for articles? Because I'm going to just another one from the same source: Time to Move On? The Case Against Daylight Saving Time
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News Item11/9/13 12:36 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Wurzel Gummidge, you commented from Scripture itself, so my argument of Specific Revelation still stands. You don't find out about Jesus by General Revelation
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News Item11/8/13 7:09 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Wurzel Gummidge wrote:
You are absolutely correct Mike. But John seems to be a little confused over that, perhaps you should clarify the matter for him.
BTW If you don't accept that the 'gift' is faith, what do you think is the 'source' of faith? If human faculty do you agree that salvation can be lost to the sinner? Subsequently what then do you do with the indwelling Spirit?
Let's put it this way. If salvation/eternal life could be lost, then it wasn't eternal, was it? No, it cannot be lost, not possible.
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News Item11/8/13 4:46 PM
Wurzel Gummidge  Find all comments by Wurzel Gummidge
Mike wrote:
A small clarification, Wurz. One who is indwelt by the Holy Spirit IS saved.
You are absolutely correct Mike. But John seems to be a little confused over that, perhaps you should clarify the matter for him.

BTW If you don't accept that the 'gift' is faith, what do you think is the 'source' of faith? If human faculty do you agree that salvation can be lost to the sinner? Subsequently what then do you do with the indwelling Spirit?

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News Item11/8/13 3:20 PM
WG  Find all comments by WG
Lisa wrote:
Re Arminianism Calvinism....
Interested where these words are found in the bible ??
Also hmmm how did Christians cope before Calvin and arminian- ????
Fred, Barney and Jeffrey are not found in the Bible either.
Strange huh?

"Before Calvin ... " - We had Augustine, versus Pelagius and Cassian (semi-pelagian) and prior to him we had Apostles, disciples and lots of Christians who taught doctrine. The basis of these 'nominated' discussions are about free will in man and the sovereignty of God. The Arminian/semipelagian thinking is that man has the 'free will' to choose Christ. The Calvinist position is God is sovereign and has elected His disciples from the foundation of the world.

If you think about it these are the only ways of constructing religion on earth. Either God does everything re salvation - or man "cooperates" with God who therefore must have the sinners permission to be saved.

The Roman Catholic church is = God plus man unto salvation.
The Calvinist position is God doesn't need man's permission/action to save His elect.
The Arminian way is similar to the RCC in that man gets a piece of the action.

This has been going on for 2000 years and remains today in the churches. Hence debate.

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News Item11/8/13 3:19 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
mourner wrote:
It would be a good idea that if God speaks to you in providence, it being his secret counsel, that you test the spirits with the Scripture to see if it be of God.
Rebukes abound but only the Incarnate Word knows the heart and speaks as the Amen, the true and faithful witness, the beginning (active in the Greek 'beginning' of the creation of God as John 1:1 states.
So God doesn't simply speak to one of his people, he arranges for him to have an accident which requires hospital treatment, and while he is in the waiting room, he picks up a magazine with a picture of a foreign country on the front page, which he investigates, and finds it is a French-speaking country, and because in the Providence of God he had learnt French at school, and while reading the article he finds his heart strangely warmed for the people there, living in idolatry and superstition, and knowing the Great Commission to go into all the world and preach the gospel, he begins to wonder if God has called him to go there in mission, so he prays, not expecting an answer from God, because he believes in sola scriptura, but he prays anyway.

When his pal came to take him home, his friend said, "Guess what! God just called me to go to France!"

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News Item11/8/13 2:48 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Wurzel Gummidge wrote:
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2. Do you mean that the "faith" - the gift of God, AND the indwelling Holy Spirit does not always work to save?
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A small clarification, Wurz. One who is indwelt by the Holy Spirit IS saved.
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News Item11/8/13 1:56 PM
Lisa | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by Lisa
Re hearing gods voice- cant make it happen, always occurs right out of the blue when I least expect him to show up.
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News Item11/8/13 1:55 PM
Lisa | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by Lisa
Re Arminianism Calvinism....

Interested where these words are found in the bible ??
Also hmmm how did Christians cope before Calvin and arminian- ????

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News Item11/8/13 1:53 PM
mourner  Find all comments by mourner
John UK wrote:
--it's about God communicating with his people apart from scripture.
OR DOES GOD NOT REBUKE HIS PEOPLE ANY MORE?
If you want to hear something from God, do you dig around in your Bible until he gives you a goosebump?
Eh?
It would be a good idea that if God speaks to you in providence, it being his secret counsel, that you test the spirits with the Scripture to see if it be of God.

Rebukes abound but only the Incarnate Word knows the heart and speaks as the Amen, the true and faithful witness, the beginning (active in the Greek 'beginning' of the creation of God as John 1:1 states.

Funny story to the point. After reading Reading Durham a few days ago I fell asleep. In what I thought was the end of a dream, heard a knock on the porch door in the middle of the night. My son was home, so it didn't concern me and I waited; no more knock. The next day I read my Bible and Mr. Durham with greater attention. Later that day I heard the same knock again, it was my dog next to a piece of plexi-glass itching his flees. But God in providence got my attention in a number of ways that day, of which this was one. But not until private worship did the Lord put it all together in the means, His word written and a teacher

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News Item11/8/13 1:32 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Wurzel Gummidge wrote:
What has this discussion been about if not John establishing the booming voice???
Eh?

The discussion has been about "sola scriptura". If you'd been paying attention........

Here's my very first post in the thread. Now please note that Jim 'Links' Lincoln claims that if a person does not believe in said doctrine, they are NOT a Christian!

Observe:

"Jim, may I ask, if "scripture only" is true, how do you interpret this text?

Revelation 3:19-22 KJV
19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man **hear my voice**, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.
22 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the **Spirit saith** unto the churches."

It's got nothing to do with "booming voices", it's about God communicating with his people apart from scripture.

OR DOES GOD NOT REBUKE HIS PEOPLE ANY MORE?

If you want to hear something from God, do you dig around in your Bible until he gives you a goosebump?

Eh?

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News Item11/8/13 1:11 PM
Wurzel Gummidge  Find all comments by Wurzel Gummidge
John UK wrote:
1. Now Wurzel, did I once say regarding Rev 3:20 that it was an audible voice, or an audible knock?

2. Can the unsaved be lukewarm?

1. What has this discussion been about if not John establishing the booming voice???

2. Do you mean that the "faith" - the gift of God, AND the indwelling Holy Spirit does not always work to save?

Is God defeated by hooman beans - Or are you returning to the Arminian fold?

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News Item11/7/13 4:42 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Lisa wrote:
I can only say- his voice- I can't describe it because I can't recall it. I only know that when I hear it I know whose voice it is and it is irresistibly commanding. Most of the. Time it's like in my stomach or heart area...so a bit different...in the pit of my stomach is the best way to describe it ???
Maybe it is indescribable, Lisa. But still very real nonetheless.

John 10:1-5 KJV
1 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.
2 But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep.
3 To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out.
4 And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.
5 And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers.

I'm outta here.

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News Item11/7/13 4:10 PM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
Lisa wrote:
I can only say- his voice- I can't describe it because I can't recall it. I only know that when I hear it I know whose voice it is and it is irresistibly commanding. Most of the. Time it's like in my stomach or heart area...so a bit different...in the pit of my stomach is the best way to describe it ???
I understand completely
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News Item11/7/13 3:54 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Wurzel Gummidge wrote:
So lets see...
Observe:

Luke 3:21-22 KJV
21 Now when all the people were baptized, it came to pass, that Jesus also being baptized, and praying, the heaven was opened,
22 And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.

John 12:28-29 KJV
28 Father, glorify thy name. Then came there a voice from heaven, saying, I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again.
29 The people therefore, that stood by, and heard it, said that it thundered: others said, An angel spake to him.

Acts 11:7-9 KJV
7 And I heard a voice saying unto me, Arise, Peter; slay and eat.
8 But I said, Not so, Lord: for nothing common or unclean hath at any time entered into my mouth.
9 But the voice answered me again from heaven, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.

2 Peter 1:18 KJV
18 And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount.

So we know from these verses that God HAS spoken with an audible voice from heaven.

Now Wurzel, did I once say regarding Rev 3:20 that it was an audible voice, or an audible knock?

Can the unsaved be lukewarm?

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News Item11/7/13 3:40 PM
Lisa | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by Lisa
I can only say- his voice- I can't describe it because I can't recall it. I only know that when I hear it I know whose voice it is and it is irresistibly commanding. Most of the. Time it's like in my stomach or heart area...so a bit different...in the pit of my stomach is the best way to describe it ???
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News Item11/7/13 3:33 PM
Wurzel Gummidge  Find all comments by Wurzel Gummidge
John UK wrote:
You think he never does that?
So lets see what we got in reply below.

1. Apparently the "I" in "I stand at the door and knock" doesn't relate to Christ? See introduction to Revelation verse Rev 1:11 to 20.

2. Apparently God or Christ shouts loudly into the ear of the Christian. When does He do this John? What does His voice sound like? If other Christians haven't heard this booming voice are they less Christian than the booming voice hearers?

3. Apparently Christ's communicating has nothing to do with conversion?
I guess the Laodiceans were already fully converted then??? If there were no problems why single them out for a roasting?

4. If physical ear hearing is so abundantly used in conversion/regeneration then is heart transformation irrelevant? Are we back to ye olde Arminian human faculty DIY conversion?

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