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Rand Paul Says Aid Helps “Worldwide War on Christianity”
In his October 11 speech, Senator Paul accused President Obama of trying to “gloss over who is attacking and killing Christians.”

While carefully making a distinction between the majority of Muslims, who are non-violent, and the minority who condone the killing of Christians, Paul nonetheless said, “there is a worldwide war on Christians by a fanatical element of Islam.”

Observing that even a minority of Muslims constituted large numbers, Paul cited a Pew Research poll that indicated that 21 percent of Egyptians, 15 percent of Jordanians, and 13 percent of Pakistani Muslims “find terrorism acceptable if not laudable.” The senator noted that “if you add up the numbers in just three countries, over 40 million Muslims sympathize with violence against Christians.”

“American tax dollars should never be spent to prop up a war on Christianity. But that is what is happening right now. As Christians ...


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Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Apparently Randy, and all the Tea Party boys are going to have to rethink about being unthinking after these pre-midterm elections. No Mike of N.Y., I'm only somewhat relieved by the results. I'm a social conservative and a moderate on economic policies. Businessmen, most of them, which many here are oblivious about, are reactionary on economic policies (or I should at least say, if it doesn't put money in their pocket -- they're against it) and completely amoral. This is somewhat pity since they on the most part not being Christian should at least recognize the The Secular Case Against Gay [Queer] Marriageand some other social issues as well such as abortion. They have really taken to heart the serious danger of the Mad Hatter Tea Party is to the economy.
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Last thing first, how has the economy fared so far under left wingnut leadership?

Next, the point of being in business is to put money in their pocket. That isn't reactionary, but the idea that one goes into business to support government vote-buying programs and social experimentaion certainly is.

Third, social conservatives do not deliberately support abortion just to get government to dictate your health choices. You ain't a s.c.

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News Item11/6/13 3:00 PM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Apparently Randy, and all the Tea Party boys are going to have to rethink about being unthinking after these pre-midterm elections. No Mike of N.Y., I'm only somewhat relieved by the results. I'm a social conservative and a moderate on economic policies.
Rand isnt short for Randy, he was named after Ayn Rand aka Alisa Rosenbaum
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News Item11/6/13 2:48 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Apparently Randy, and all the Tea Party boys are going to have to rethink about being unthinking after these pre-midterm elections. No Mike of N.Y., I'm only somewhat relieved by the results. I'm a social conservative and a moderate on economic policies. Businessmen, most of them, which many here are oblivious about, are reactionary on economic policies (or I should at least say, if it doesn't put money in their pocket -- they're against it) and completely amoral. This is somewhat pity since they on the most part not being Christian should at least recognize the The Secular Case Against Gay [Queer] Marriage, and some other social issues as well such as abortion. They have really taken to heart the serious danger of the Mad Hatter Tea Party is to the economy.

Now, I really don't care for C. Christie, e.g., ...Chris Christie and law banning gay-to-straight conversion therapy. I have seen three different in interpretations of the Virginia Governor's elections all them had some points, but the win of a liberal Democrat one, is still the resul

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News Item11/6/13 9:16 AM
penny  Find all comments by penny
Brother US, thank you for that, I'm sorry for any frustration I have caused you, and need a break as well. God's blessings on you and yours.
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News Item11/6/13 5:37 AM
Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
penny wrote:
Brother US, are you talking about Iran now? I thought we were talking about Iraq.
The CNN link, if you were to read it, you would see that they are simply reporting on the Joint Forces Command report. They reviewed 600,000 documents and interviewed leadership and came to the conclusion there was no connection.
If you would like to read the actual document from the pentagon, then go to the article and on the left there's a line that says, "excerpts from report" where you can download it.
might I suggest leaving Jim out of this, I'm sorry for making that comment, he's an instigator, and its really not good to let him get the best of us, just my two cents....
Thanks jpw, no I was talking about Iraq. If you don't mind I am going to drop out of this discussion, I found myself taking time I normally spend in prayer and meditation pondering what to say next on this subject here. So, I needs let the discussion go in all due respect to you I thank you for your willingness to take the time to post about it. God bless, I will, Lord willing, post on other things as God sees fit to allow me, but on this topic I will drop off, not in anyway trying to cut you off sister just me. Thanks
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News Item11/5/13 6:56 PM
penny  Find all comments by penny
Brother US, are you talking about Iran now? I thought we were talking about Iraq.

The CNN link, if you were to read it, you would see that they are simply reporting on the Joint Forces Command report. They reviewed 600,000 documents and interviewed leadership and came to the conclusion there was no connection.

If you would like to read the actual document from the pentagon, then go to the article and on the left there's a line that says, "excerpts from report" where you can download it.

might I suggest leaving Jim out of this, I'm sorry for making that comment, he's an instigator, and its really not good to let him get the best of us, just my two cents....

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News Item11/5/13 3:49 PM
Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
penny wrote:
Brother US, there was no Al Q in Iraq before 2003. that's why Jim mocks. He knows.
JPW, you surprise me with your statement. To be sure the links I still have on the home computer are probably invalid that have Clinton, Kerry, Edwards, Gore, etc. all acknowledging the need to take out Saddam Hussein. So, I need a source that was fresher. You and Jim need to stop counting on the liberal media for your information. This is not from a conservative source but I am sure it is one of which you have heard. It is know as wikileaks. Wikileaks VERIFIED Al Q in Iran in 1998. Intelligence reports seen by the members of Congress who authorized the war also saw this information. So in all due respect, yes there was Al Qaeda in Iran BEFORE 2003. I don't believe I have ever said that Bush was a friend of Christians, have learned that any authentic criticism of him makes people like Jim feel that ALL criticism of him is legit so I shy away from it. It matters not who STARTED homeland security. We don't blame the abuses of the Social Security system on Roosevelt or abuse of the tax code on Taft.

http://m.weeklystandard.com/blogs/wikileaks-iraq-al-qaeda-connection-confirmed-again_558271.html

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News Item11/5/13 3:12 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Mike of N.Y., This is a reasonably good look at the political system. Interesting how one thought that "Enron" Bush had some competence and Cheney and Rumsfeld who should haven't been such flops but were, One of Bush's favorites Karl Rove had this man as a favorite, “There are two things that are important in politics,” Hanna said. “The first is money and I can’t remember what the second one is.”Bill Moyers: "Welcome to the Plutocracy!".

When you have the Tea Party running the Republicans and the Koch brothers funding it, Iowa Town Says No to Koch Brothers Influence on Local Elections You don't have thinking on the Republican's part.

Today's elections in Ala. In Alabama election, a showdown between the GOP establishment and the tea party, and the governor's races in Virgina and N.J. should be interesting, in a small way, for a Christian.

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News Item11/5/13 2:47 PM
penny  Find all comments by penny
headline: Hussein's Iraq and al Qaeda not linked, Pentagon says

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/03/13/alqaeda.saddam/

600,000 Iraqi documents were reviewed

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News Item11/5/13 2:13 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
penny wrote:
you would all rather argue with me than study the facts! I know wiki can be limited but go read up, quote from George Tenet, no proof of AQ in Iq prior to 2003.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saddam_Hussein_and_al-Qaeda_link_allegations
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Tenet? Why is this Clinton appointee credible? Didn't he provide the blueprint for the "war on terror"? Didn't he claim nukes were in Iraq? From wiki:
"According to a report by veteran investigative journalist Bob Woodward in his book Plan of Attack, Tenet privately lent his personal authority to the intelligence reports about weapons of mass destruction (WMDs) in Iraq.[33] At a meeting on December 12, 2002, he assured Bush that the evidence that Iraq had WMDs amounted to a "slam dunk case."

He eventually loses his job, writes a book critical of the administration he provided intel to, and we should listen why?

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News Item11/5/13 12:52 PM
penny  Find all comments by penny
you would all rather argue with me than study the facts! I know wiki can be limited but go read up, quote from George Tenet, no proof of AQ in Iq prior to 2003.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saddam_Hussein_and_al-Qaeda_link_allegations

look, even the CFR is saying same thing, ok?

http://www.cfr.org/iraq/al-qaeda-iraq-k-islamic-state-iraq-greater-syria/p14811

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News Item11/5/13 10:40 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
penny wrote:
Mike, "unintended" -- is that like "oops, I just cut down my neighbor's tree.....sorry"? like that? or "sorry officer, I didn't mean to drive 30 miles over the speed limit, just a careless mistake", that kind of "oops", like "oops, I just created a force that has unlimited power and an absolute surveillance system to protect my people and then some guy came after me who's muslm and doesn't like Christians"? like that kind of "oops"?
Consequences are either intended or unintended, aren't they? I have some cynicism, but not enough to think B intended for HS to grow into what it has become under O.

I don't care what O's claimed or unclaimed religion is, his actions are what matter, why bring it up?

Surely you know these bureaucracies develop a life of their own after a while, being unaccountable. Yes, B should have known. But I stop at believing he knew where it would lead. How many politicians have ever had that kind of wisdom? Thus, unintended, not intended consequences. Now that that's settled, B is a dead horse. 5 years into O is where we are now.

Now. Jim, who is an astute student of selective history, and opposed to the antics of B., supports the biggest bureaucratic boondoggle of all. Difference?

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News Item11/5/13 10:06 AM
penny  Find all comments by penny
Mike, "unintended" -- is that like "oops, I just cut down my neighbor's tree.....sorry"? like that? or "sorry officer, I didn't mean to drive 30 miles over the speed limit, just a careless mistake", that kind of "oops", like "oops, I just created a force that has unlimited power and an absolute surveillance system to protect my people and then some guy came after me who's muslm and doesn't like Christians"? like that kind of "oops"?
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News Item11/5/13 9:25 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
penny wrote:
Brother US, there was no Al Q in Iraq before 2003. that's why Jim mocks. He knows.
go look it up, please. yes, the link I gave showed a man who's family was proamerican and his own family was killed by saddam, we must hear their experiences....
please, google an image, put in Reagan and Taliban. you will see Reagan sitting with them in the oval office, he called them equivalent to founding fathers, because they were fighting against Russian in Afghan. we created them. Who put Saddam in?
study the history, if you want to know.
do you think your counter to Jim will hold back his liberal movement on the land? no, it won't. why? it was not that created homeland security.
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Jim mocks what he despises, no more or less. If it were merely historical accuracy he were about, we'd be blessed with links pertaining to what is happening now, and by whom it is happening. Do you not recognize this?

Was it wrong for the Taliban to fight the Russians in Afghan.? Was it wrong to "destabilize" Saddam and his lunatic sadistic sons?

You are right, Bush create HS, and he was wrong. Unintended consequences galore. Look who is running with it now. Or does the comfort of knowing its origin diminish "now"? Drones, anyone?

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News Item11/5/13 9:08 AM
penny  Find all comments by penny
Brother US, there was no Al Q in Iraq before 2003. that's why Jim mocks. He knows.

go look it up, please. yes, the link I gave showed a man who's family was proamerican and his own family was killed by saddam, we must hear their experiences....

please, google an image, put in Reagan and Taliban. you will see Reagan sitting with them in the oval office, he called them equivalent to founding fathers, because they were fighting against Russian in Afghan. we created them. Who put Saddam in?

study the history, if you want to know.

do you think your counter to Jim will hold back his liberal movement on the land? no, it won't. why? it was not O that created homeland security.

I know Iraqis are killing Iraqis. that's what happens everytime westerners go in and destabilize their govs! everytime! there are diff sects of islm and tribal wores, which is what is going to happen here, because as we disrupt the ME, the ME is sent here to disrupt us. and when we become destabilized will not the same thing happen?

B is no friend to Christians. better to know a wolf as a wolf than to love him in sheep's clothing. remember 3 days after he left office laura was on tv saying she was really prochoice. she had been all along, don't you see?

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News Item11/5/13 5:34 AM
Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
penny wrote:
I'm not linking first part because some cursing in one scene, but it really should be watched...
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jpw, if you believe that the terrorist have not been and were not trained in Iraq, then all I can say is you are duped.(not trying to be unkind) Even the Iraqis were glad that the tyrant who killed and oppressed their people gone. (You don't remember people risking their life to get a purple finger) Have you forgotten about the mass graves found in Iraq and the use of WMD's on the Iraqi people by their own government? Does it not occur to you that many of the civilian causalities were Iraqis killed BY Iraqis? (still are)
You can sit there and gripe about what you term an unjust war, but until President Bush left office there were NO MORE attacks on American soil by terrorists, and you think that is a coincidence? Maybe you would rather see evil Americans killed but I believe we have a responsibility to defend our country. It would be nice if we could sing kumbaya and all get along, and be in a live and let live world. But the world of Islam has but one goal and that is to put you and your people (infidels who practice Christianity) to death. Isn't that our discussion on other threads? Video premise is wrong and inaccurate.

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News Item11/4/13 10:35 PM
Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
Jim Lincoln wrote:
UPS, why is blaming Obama for anything to solve anything either?
In case you missed our discussion, and your OWN point from earlier, BOTH Obama and Bush bear some culpability at this point. But you consistently defend your guy anytime there is an article that is critical of him or his policies posted by SA. You will say it was all Bush's fault or the republicans are just as if not more corrupt. With rare exception do you acknowledge that the current administration and its policies are flawed. President Obama has been at it for 5 years now, it is time for him and you to acknowledge the problems he faces and creates are of his own making. If you are going to be an independent then be one, right now you could only be characterized, politically speaking, as a spokesperson for the DNC.
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News Item11/4/13 5:09 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Jim Lincoln wrote:
UPS, why is blaming Obama for anything to solve anything either? I just don't want some even worse than Bush, q.v., Bush: Terrible President, Also Not a Smart Man such as Randy Paul or the CanadianCruz. But of course, if God doesn't think the USA has been punished enough, they one of them or someone like them will get into office. Yes, the "Christians in name only,"
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The Region: Why Obama can't tame the Islamists to liberal Democrats. I think it would be a waste of time to point it out to the likes of Senator McCain, who thinks they're perfect the way they are. Thank God, he wasn't elected. Who is he working for anyway?
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Found this gem in your Why Obama can't tame the Islamists link:

3. "The elected regimes can use the educational system, religious institutions and media to indoctrinate the public and ensure continued support. They can use jobs and the economy to control patronage and votes; create or control trade unions and professional associations."

Sounds like here doesn't it? Common Core, lapdog media, support for crony capitalism, etc. Thought you were against such.

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News Item11/4/13 2:15 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
UPS, why is blaming Obama for anything to solve anything either? I just don't want some even worse than Bush, q.v., Bush: Terrible President, Also Not a Smart Man, such as Randy Paul or the Canadian Cruz. But of course, if God doesn't think the USA has been punished enough, they one of them or someone like them will get into office.

Yes, the "Christians in name only," q.v., The forgotten Christians of the East had fared better under dictatorships than tyranny of the masses. I wish someone would point out that The Region: Why Obama can't tame the Islamists to liberal Democrats. I think it would be a waste of time to point it out to the likes of Senator McCain, who thinks they're perfect the way they are. Thank God, he wasn't elected. Who is he working for anyway?

Anyway, Penny, you should read the lengthy, Lovers Of Zion: A History Of Christian Zionism

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News Item11/4/13 9:13 AM
penny  Find all comments by penny
I'm not linking first part because some cursing in one scene, but it really should be watched. this well spoken Iraqi shows footage of his home and college life in 2003, now his family refugees all over the world, tries to talk with americans who love their stories, quite profound

"Talk to an Iraqi - This American Life - Showtime: Part 2/2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPfLdxEr0jk

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