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FRIDAY, OCT 25, 2013  |  29 comments
Health insurance cancellation notices soar above Obamacare enrollment rates

Hundreds of thousands of Americans who purchase their own health insurance have received cancellation notices since August because the plans do not meet Obamacare’s requirements.

The number of cancellation notices greatly exceed the number of Obamacare enrollees.

Insurance carrier Florida Blue sent out 300,000 cancellation notices, or 80 percent of the entire state’s individual coverage policies, Kaiser Health News reports. California’s Kaiser Permanente canceled 160,000 plans — half of its insurance plans in the state — while Blue Shield of California sent 119,000 notices in mid-September alone. ...


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News Item11/19/13 2:42 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
I should make a correction, and something I should add as a disclaimer every time that I use, The Record of Republican Corruption (on the Jesus was no Republican (He wasn't a Democrat either ) is they seem to go overboard in comparing Bushes to Nazis and trying to link Ted Bundy to the Bushes, by some vague similarities. However, on the whole the article is quite good, but I don't endorse sites by using them, well except Indian Hills Community Church which has nothing to do with politics

Too many Republicans and others listen to too many commentators, Left & Right Voices in Talk Radio & TV. Republicans have turned into a rightest, White, Catholic Party. A "Christian" "Democratic" party, which isn't Christian, and sometimes isn't democratic.

More importantly like it or not in a democracy you had better be able to compromise in some things, because people don't want the government shut down. As the recent elections show, voters are tired of idiotlogues ah, er, ideologues and perhaps some Republicans are getting their common sense back.

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News Item11/19/13 12:22 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Ah, Mike of New York, considering some of the sources I've seen here on the forum which are people who just have taken off their white sheets, I'm not very bothered about liberal sources-- if they're accurate.
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News Item10/27/13 6:02 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Ah, many of you people love Fox news, I run across it on the Internet once in awhile and this was an interesting article I picked up on it, Five reasons Americans already love ObamaCare — plus one reason why they’re gonna love it even more, soon. Oh, a recent opinion piece on Fox News, While this does has the possibility to be lower cost than anything the Obamacare has, it's still lacking in appeal. As Fla. Congressman Grayson put it, the Republican Health Care Plan:
1. Don't get sick
2. If you do get sick die quickly.
Quoting radical babblers like Grayson doesn't help you, Jim.
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News Item10/27/13 5:55 PM
GsTexas | Texas  Find all comments by GsTexas
That's funny considering my insurance went up, and many who don't have insurance who were hoping for affordable insurance are finding out that its not affordable after all. Not to mention the website that doesn't even work. (epic fail on the governments part on that one, they only had two years to get it right, that's why you beta test it.)
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News Item10/27/13 4:25 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Ah, many of you people love Fox news, I run across it on the Internet once in awhile and this was an interesting article I picked up on it,
Five reasons Americans already love ObamaCare — plus one reason why they’re gonna love it even more, soon
. Oh, a recent opinion piece on Fox News, "Ideologues may not like ObamaCare, but my wallet and my family’s health sure do."

While this does has the possibility to be lower cost than anything the Obamacare has, it's still lacking in appeal. As Fla. Congressman Grayson put it, the Republican Health Care Plan:

1. Don't get sick
2. If you do get sick die quickly.

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News Item10/27/13 3:05 PM
penny  Find all comments by penny
well, Mike, when you consider the fact that there were the married gays in his state, the forced care and was in support of NDAA passage which authorized for first time the detent. of americans without trial.... just sayin'.
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News Item10/26/13 3:40 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Dag nab that government! It controls the airlines! it controls the Interstate highway system! Ah, but rest easy! It doesn't control one thing the banks. So everything is alright in the world. The Financial Oligarchy in the US Fie on everyone's house.
By the way, Christian Scientists who eschew formal medicine, almost as much as some here has an interesting article in their flagship newspaper the Christian Science Monitor, If Obamacare were Romneycare, would we have a government shutdown? This is a later article than the Forbes one, though except for right-wing sources, I don't see much complaint about it, and I doubt the complaints that were in the Forbes has changed any.
It's hard to imagine Romney saying "my way or the highway" like our clear and present prez does incessantly. Oh but I hope you didn't suffer much from the imaginary shutdown by the way.
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News Item10/26/13 3:04 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Dag nab that government! It controls the airlines! it controls the Interstate highway system! Ah, but rest easy! It doesn't control one thing the banks. So everything is alright in the world. The Financial Oligarchy in the US Fie on everyone's house.

By the way, Christian Scientists who eschew formal medicine, almost as much as some here has an interesting article in their flagship newspaper the Christian Science Monitor, If Obamacare were Romneycare, would we have a government shutdown? This is a later article than the Forbes one, though except for right-wing sources, I don't see much complaint about it, and I doubt the complaints that were in the Forbes has changed any.

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News Item10/26/13 10:20 AM
John for JESUS | ATL  Find all comments by John for JESUS
GsTexas wrote:
Jim, what you fail to realize, and should scare you, is that our corrupt government now controls our healthcare. Our government is growing more and more hostile towards Christians everyday, and hostile towards our personal liberties as well. Not only that, but their inability to control the national debt, and ridiculous spending habits all but insure an impending disaster in their attempt to control out healthcare. If they can't control the national debt, what makes think they can do a good job of controlling our healthcare?
You are bringing up some good points that concern me. We already see how politicians try to control the amount of soda one drinks. I have heard rumors of them wanting to regulate fast food restaurants and penalize people with unhealthy lifestyles. I can easily see how they would start attacking Christianity as a unhealthy lifestyle which needs to be taxed or as a mental illness which needs to be treated.
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News Item10/26/13 9:55 AM
Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Yes, Mr. B, it is joke...
Generally speaking respect Forbes prospective, however numerous articles show Romneycare, which in many way is significantly different than Obamacare, is also rift with problems and cost overruns.

http://www.cato.org/policy-report/januaryfebruary-2008/lessons-fall-romneycare

http://reason.com/archives/2012/03/06/sorry-liberals-romneycare-is-still-not-w

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/229581/problem-romneycare/stephen-spruiell

http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/wrm/2013/08/15/romneycare-falters-in-massachusetts/

http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/09/04/obamacare-vs-romneycare-the-labor-impact/?_r=0

Also, still waiting for your retraction that Obamacare is a republican plan and that the republicans have no alternatives to the Obama plan. Which is turning out to be pay more money to the government coffers and stay healthy or get sick and perish while you wait to be treated. No need for funding R&D for new meds, that waste of money is just making pharmaceuticals rich. Also,if you are a seasoned citizen, then it is take an aspirin for the pain and deal with it as you are not worthy to have money wasted on extending your life.

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News Item10/26/13 1:30 AM
GsTexas | Texas  Find all comments by GsTexas
Jim, what you fail to realize, and should scare you, is that our corrupt government now controls our healthcare. Our government is growing more and more hostile towards Christians everyday, and hostile towards our personal liberties as well. Not only that, but their inability to control the national debt, and ridiculous spending habits all but insure an impending disaster in their attempt to control out healthcare. If they can't control the national debt, what makes think they can do a good job of controlling our healthcare?
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News Item10/26/13 1:29 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Yes, Mr. B, it is joke all the conplaints about the ACA. You notice that Ronneycare is doing fine. If ObamaCare Is So Bad, How Does RomneyCare Survive? (Ah, this article was in Forbes magazine, if you have to look it up on your own because my tablet messed up)
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News Item10/26/13 1:07 AM
John for JESUS | ATL  Find all comments by John for JESUS
John UK wrote:
In this world, there are many rich people who dislike the idea of the poor getting medical treatment at well below cost price. But take away all their assets and let them need a blood transfusion after a car accident without the means to pay for it, and they soon start thinking differently.
In the UK we have obligatory tax for health care continually, including expensive operations. It is well affordable to the man in the street. For those with plenty of dosh, they can also take out private health care insurance if they want to, and have private treatment.
The system is open to abuse, but that is no reason to cease from doing good to them that are in need.
We always hear horror stories over here of the poor healthcare in countries that have universal healthcare. So I'm glad to hear it seems to be working out for you in the UK. I hope it works out over here or gets replaced by something better because it would be nice to know poor people can get help if they need it. The only affect it has had on me so far is an $8 increase a week in health insurance cost. Which seems like a small price to pay to make sure all people are covered.
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News Item10/25/13 7:23 PM
Mr b  Find all comments by Mr b
"obamacare". ..... ?? what a joke.
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News Item10/25/13 6:01 PM
Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
A UK health and social care watchdog has warned that the country’s healthcare system is on the brink of collapse, and that many patients – particularly the elderly – are going to hospital for emergencies when they should have been seen much earlier.

http://rt.com/news/uk-nhs-health-crisis-049/

From 2005 to 2012, British hospital emergency room visits rose from 18 million to 22 million -- a 22 percent increase in only 7 years, a period during which the population grew by only 4 percent.

Like complaints about the Canadian system, patients in the NHS can expect long waits for non-emergency appointments and surgeries, which are sometimes rescheduled abruptly because of a lack of the correct medical equipment. Family doctors, known as general practitioners, are typically booked up weeks in advance and reserve only a few slots every day for emergencies.

General practitioners also ration specialist services so that without a referral, no specialist appointment can be obtained, a practice that has led to wrongful death.

http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_ID=23150

Gas prices equivalent $10 a gallon in UK, is that what you want Jim? Less coverage, long delays, few opportunities to actually see a doctor and higher premiums, and you think it is a good ide

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News Item10/25/13 4:37 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Unprofitable Servant wrote:
---
Jim---
If you cannot see how it is imploding, how it is INCREASING and not decreasing healthcare cost and is costing people jobs or hours and their current health coverage then you are like the proverbial ostrich with is head stuck in the sand.
There is an area in Nebraska known as the Sand Hills. Maybe Jim lives there?
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News Item10/25/13 3:43 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
In this world, there are many rich people who dislike the idea of the poor getting medical treatment at well below cost price. But take away all their assets and let them need a blood transfusion after a car accident without the means to pay for it, and they soon start thinking differently.

In the UK we have obligatory tax for health care continually, including expensive operations. It is well affordable to the man in the street. For those with plenty of dosh, they can also take out private health care insurance if they want to, and have private treatment.

The system is open to abuse, but that is no reason to cease from doing good to them that are in need.

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News Item10/25/13 3:30 PM
Anne | The Wild West  Find all comments by Anne
Cont...
But we are called to be discerning with the responsibilities God has given us and not throw pearls to swine. There is nothing kind about helping lazy people who have an entitlement mentality. There is everything kind and good in helping those who are truly in need and not abusing God's good graces.

"I have not coveted anyone’s silver or gold or clothing. You yourselves know that these hands have provided for my needs and for those who were with me. In every way I’ve shown you that by laboring like this, it is necessary to help the weak and to keep in mind the words of the Lord Jesus, for He said, ‘It is more blessed to give than to receive.’ ” (Acts 20:33-35 HCSB)

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News Item10/25/13 3:29 PM
Anne | The Wild West  Find all comments by Anne
Jim, seriously? My seven year old even knows better than to make the "Well, the Bible doesn't talk about toilet paper and airplanes" comment. The Bible is a code of conduct, given as command, instructions, rebukes and exhortations to strive to do GOD'S will and not my own. The government was given a role and that role outlined in Exodus. SJ already addressed your twisting of the good Samaratin who performed out of love and not coercion; reread the story. And Dorothy and you stooping to the level of "hard hearted" and "you may think it is Biblical to let people die along the roadside": 1 Timothy 5:8, Prov 26:15,16; 20:4; 22:13; 20:4; 18:9; 31:27; 13:2; 21:25-26; Ecclesiastes 11:4; 1 Corinthians 4:2; Romans 12:11; 2 Timothy 3:10; Matthew 25:26-30; Hebrews 6:12; Ephesians 5:15-16. (That took forever to type.)

They are absurd arguments and reveal little more than a strangely humanistic view in sheep's clothing. Take a look at Ruth's story - even in her misery and poverty, she still had to WORK yet was shown great care and mercy through Boaz. I have never met a Christian who wanted people to die on the road side and passed by like the hard hearted Pharasies. (Cont...)

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News Item10/25/13 3:26 PM
Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
Jim, to repeat a post from earlier that refutes your statement that universal healthcare was a Republican idea with hopes that you will stop spreading misinformation

NYT, April 16th, 1976 by Robert Reinhold.

"WASHINGTON, April 16 Jimmy Carter said today that he favored nationwide mandatory health insurance to be financed through employer and payroll taxes as well as general tax revenues."

Seems like it favored a Kennedy-Corman health security plan favored by Humphrey, Jackson and Udall all democrats.(from documented Wikipedia article on Jimmy Carter)

Speaking of misinformation, the republicans HAVE offered alternatives to Obamacare

http://www.freedomworks.org/blog/lt1800/republican-study-committee-offers-obamacare-altern

They offered SEVERAL amendments during the bill process that were all rejected by the Democratic majority.

If you cannot see how it is imploding, how it is INCREASING and not decreasing healthcare cost and is costing people jobs or hours and their current health coverage then you are like the proverbial ostrich with is head stuck in the sand.

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