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FRONT PAGE  |  9/4/2015
SUNDAY, OCT 13, 2013  |  44 comments
Pope Francis: Women called to service, not servitude
ope Francis on Saturday spoke about ‚Äúthe vocation and the mission‚ÄĚ of women on Saturday when addressing participants of a study seminar organized by the Women‚Äôs Section of the Pontifical Council for the Laity on the 25th anniversary of Blessed Pope John Paul II‚Äôs Apostolic Letter Mulieris Dignitatem. The letter was the first in papal teaching dedicated entirely to the theme of the woman, and the study seminar in particular discussed the point which says that God entrusts man, the human being, to woman in a special way.

‚ÄúWhat does this ‚Äėspecial entrusting‚Äô‚Ķof the human being to woman signify? It seems evident to me that my predecessor is referring to maternity,‚ÄĚ said Pope Francis. ...


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News Item10/18/13 7:51 PM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Reader7 wrote:
JY
By attending and thus supporting the idolatrous RCC you are giving credence to an organisation by your presence. This is your religious witness of and by association. Question does God bless an idolatrous organisation?
Baptist teaching states that because I embraced Jesus as my Savior by praying to Him and asking Him to become my Savior that I am saved irrespective of the church that I attend as long as the church worships Jesus as God. It is totally illogical to keep stating that just by attending the Catholic Church that I am somehow condoning idolatry. If I don't engage in idolatrous practices then I am not condoning idolatry. My Independent Baptist friend does not state that I have to cease attending the Catholic Church or else I am not saved.
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News Item10/18/13 3:29 PM
Reader7  Find all comments by Reader7
John Yurich USA wrote:
Where do you get the insane idea that I engage in idolatry?
JY
By attending and thus supporting the idolatrous RCC you are giving credence to an organisation by your presence. This is your religious witness of and by association. Question does God bless an idolatrous organisation?
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News Item10/17/13 7:16 PM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Reader7 wrote:
JY
Idolatry is one of the standard doctrines of the apostate Roman Catholic church. Here is what Scripture says about the idolatry which your organisation adheres to.
4 Their idols are silver and gold, the work of men's hands.
5 They have mouths, but they speak not: eyes have they, but they see not:
6 They have ears, but they hear not: noses have they, but they smell not:
7 They have hands, but they handle not: feet have they, but they walk not: neither speak they through their throat.
8 They that make them are like unto them; so is every one that trusteth in them. Psalm 115.
JY you cannot serve two masters either follow Jesus or follow these dumb idols. You cannot follow both.
Jesus warns. "No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other"
Where do you get the insane idea that I engage in idolatry? I have stated repeatedly on here that I do not pray to or bow down to the Crucifix and the statues of the Virgin Mary and the Saints and I don't pray to the Virgin Mary and the Saints. And thus I don't engage in idolatry. I only follow Jesus as I am totally devoted to Jesus and not the Pope or the Virgin Mary or the Saints.
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News Item10/17/13 4:29 PM
Reader7  Find all comments by Reader7
John Yurich USA wrote:
I only adhere to the scriptural RCC doctrines and I only participate in the scriptural parts to the Mass
JY
Idolatry is one of the standard doctrines of the apostate Roman Catholic church. Here is what Scripture says about the idolatry which your organisation adheres to.
4 Their idols are silver and gold, the work of men's hands.
5 They have mouths, but they speak not: eyes have they, but they see not:
6 They have ears, but they hear not: noses have they, but they smell not:
7 They have hands, but they handle not: feet have they, but they walk not: neither speak they through their throat.
8 They that make them are like unto them; so is every one that trusteth in them. Psalm 115.

JY you cannot serve two masters either follow Jesus or follow these dumb idols. You cannot follow both.

Jesus warns. "No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other"

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News Item10/17/13 10:04 AM
penny  Find all comments by penny
one diminishes His Lordship, the other His Kingship --- same spiritual problem, different building, one uses relics, the other charts.
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News Item10/17/13 1:56 AM
GsTexas | Texas  Find all comments by GsTexas
I'm not trying to be mean, I just don't think its good for you spiritually to be part of system that is opposed to our Lord Jesus Christ. I'm glad you trust in Jesus alone for salvation and not the sacraments, but the Catholic system is full of heresy, and I think it would do you a lot of good to leave it behind.
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News Item10/17/13 1:49 AM
GsTexas | Texas  Find all comments by GsTexas
John Y, all I'm saying in that there is no such practice as an altar call in Scripture. There is no reference to such a thing in the book of Acts, or anywhere else in the new testament. Romans 10:9 is about calling on the Lord to be saved, but it doesn't say anything about a hymn of invitation, a preacher in an expensive suit on a raised platform calling lost people unto himself to recite a prayer he tells them to pray for salvation. All I'm saying is I think it does more harm than good.

Also, lets say I go to a church that teaches some Biblical truths, but also teaches something evil like for instance rape is okay. Should I stay there? Of course not! Now lets think about this: if Catholics teach some Biblical truths (I can't think of any, but this is hypothetical) but also teach evil like the worship of Mary, works based salvation etc. Shouldn't you leave that system? Is worshipping a false goddess or blatant Idolatry any less evil than rape?

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News Item10/16/13 11:54 PM
Lurker  Protected NameFind all comments by Lurker
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Penny you were doing well, until the David throne part
Source.... Is 11:10 And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.

Fulfillment.... Rom 15:12 And again, Esaias saith, There shall be a root of Jesse, and he that shall rise to *reign* over the Gentiles; in him shall the Gentiles trust.

"Reign" ?

Read the whole chapter of Isaiah 11, Jim. Notice how v4 sounds a lot like Rev 19:15 and v6-9 sounds a lot like Isaiah 65:25 (which sounds a lot like the Rev 20 reign of Christ) which makes sense since the Isaiah chapter starts out with....

Isa 65:1 I am sought of them that asked not for me; I am found of them that sought me not: I said, Behold me, behold me, unto a nation that was not called by my name.

.... which was also quoted by Paul....

Rom 10:20 But Esaias is very bold, and saith, I was found of them that sought me not; I was made manifest unto them that asked not after me.

Be careful connecting too many dots, Jim. You might actually begin to see Dispy theology for the fairy tale it is. But I guess I shouldn't be too concerned because your passion is being a news junkie and parroting Gil Rugh.

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News Item10/16/13 7:00 PM
penny  Find all comments by penny
Jim, Jesus is not King? that is one weak testimony. but I suppose that's what scofield does.... the affections to the King are given elsewhere.

The King-Priest Sermon

http://www.spurgeongems.org/vols25-27/chs1495.pdf

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News Item10/16/13 2:39 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Chris

Penny you were doing well, until the David throne part, q.v.,

Gil Rugh said or, wrote:
....
For the promises made to David to be fulfilled Israel first needed a Savior from their sin so they would be spiritually fit to be in the promised kingdom over which Christ will rule when He comes the second time.
from the summary for, Jesus' Legal Title to David's Throne

John Y.,
I would think you would agree that a professing Christian would have to leave:
A Buddhist temple
A Hindu temple
A Muslim Mosque
A JW Fellowship Hall
A Mormon Church

All of these organizations are anti-Christian, q.v., Roman Catholics, Mormons and Jehovah Witnesses (PDF), so Christian has to leave a Catholic Church
Read this, 2 Corinthians 6:14-18. So, John Y., you still need to read, Come out of the Catholic Church--after all these years!

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News Item10/16/13 10:29 AM
penny  Find all comments by penny
John Yurich -- Jesus cannot save you unless he is also Lord.

that is Jesus and Christ

Lord and Savior

a pauper cannot save you from poverty

Christ is able to forgive because he is King, perhaps a read of 1 Corinthians 15?

lots of Baptists do not even think the Davidic throne has been filled yet, including macarther, just read the bible, its all there! (and don't listen to those who would cut whole sections of the new testament out!)

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News Item10/16/13 7:17 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Before coming onto this forum, I always thought altar calls were such a great thing. Every time I would witness people going up, the thousands at a Billy Grahm conference, or whatever, I would think, "wow, look at all the people who just got saved". Now, I tend to think that it's not all that simple; that repeating canned salvation prayers don't necessarily remove anyone from the darkness, but rather make people feel good while in the moment. I'm talking about those who are pressured to walk forward or who are caught up in the emotion of the moment, etc. To me, it seems as though they are telling God, "okay, I'll give you a shot", as opposed to God calling out to them, saying, "follow me". I just wonder now if I was looking at this all wrong.
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News Item10/16/13 4:53 AM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Gs Texas wrote:
John Y, you can't isolate Scripture. While Romans 10:9 is a good verse on salvation, it certainly isn't the only one. Romans 10:9 doesn't say anything about repentance, but repentance is necessary for salvation, as is seen in numerous verses.
As you can see John Y there is more to salvation than Romans 10;9. You can't base theology on one verse, but the whole Bible. As for the altar call, show me in Scripture (NT) anything resembling a hym of invitation, a preacher all dressed up in an expensive suit, calling people down to him to pray a prayer he tells them for salvation.
Baptist teaching is that the Altar Call is based upon Romans 10:9. That is basic Baptist teaching. Repentance is supposed to go along with profession of faith in Jesus as Savior. Every Baptist minister I have heard preach on salvation has told individuals that they have to repent before coming forward for the Altar Call to embrace Jesus as their Savior.

Unprofitable Servant, No I am not placing my hope in salvation on attending Mass in the Catholic Church. I am placing my hope on Jesus. It is totally illogical to keep stating that I am placing my hope in salvation on attending Mass when I keep stating that I am trusting in Jesus alone for salvation.

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News Item10/15/13 11:44 AM
Unprofitable Servant  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
Carol wrote:
My testimony since my Lord and Saviour saved me out of the darkness and bondage of Roman Catholicism....
"No sacrifice but Calvary"
"No priest but Christ."
"No confessional but the throne of Grace."
All praise,glory, and honor to thee Almighty God and Saviour!!
Praise the Lord for your great testimony!!
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News Item10/15/13 11:32 AM
Carol  Find all comments by Carol
My testimony since my Lord and Saviour saved me out of the darkness and bondage of Roman Catholicism....
"No sacrifice but Calvary"
"No priest but Christ."
"No confessional but the throne of Grace."
All praise,glory, and honor to thee Almighty God and Saviour!!
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News Item10/15/13 10:39 AM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
Christopher000 wrote:
To some, it seems as though the contents of the Bible are worthless, save for a few key verses that, used alone, support their various positions. I can take many lone verses out of the Bible, neglect to read the contents before and after, and use them for my own nefarious purposes, use them as feel good examples to support my preferential way of living, lines of logic, or whatever. So many verses, used alone, can be used as weapons to support many things, leading to various theologies, etc, but read in the Bibles proper context; read together as a whole, well, they all come to be understood as having one particular meaning; conveying one particular thought, rule, instruction, or whatever, when read in the context of the Bible as a whole. Hope that made sense...my brain goes a little haywire sometimes when trying to break down a point.
Yes Chris, I'm sure we agree on the things concerning RC. Like I have said many times, they are the great whore of Rev. and the world's largest cult. They will help the "man of sin" root out and kill genuine Christians. Your brain is fine. I would say that mine has seen its better day, but then someone might say I am being falsely sanctimonious.

GS

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News Item10/15/13 7:58 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Hi Frank, I couldn't agree more with your point about some being either mentally unable, or simply refusing to see the big picture. To some, it seems as though the contents of the Bible are worthless, save for a few key verses that, used alone, support their various positions. I can take many lone verses out of the Bible, neglect to read the contents before and after, and use them for my own nefarious purposes, use them as feel good examples to support my preferential way of living, lines of logic, or whatever. So many verses, used alone, can be used as weapons to support many things, leading to various theologies, etc, but read in the Bibles proper context; read together as a whole, well, they all come to be understood as having one particular meaning; conveying one particular thought, rule, instruction, or whatever, when read in the context of the Bible as a whole. Hope that made sense...my brain goes a little haywire sometimes when trying to break down a point.
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News Item10/15/13 1:42 AM
Gs Texas | Texas  Find all comments by Gs Texas
And Steve R, show in Scripture where it says: "Thou shalt spell every word correctly, or you do err, not knowing Scripture."

Funny that I can't find that verse any where. That is what is known as a logical fallacy.

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News Item10/15/13 1:37 AM
Gs Texas | Texas  Find all comments by Gs Texas
John Y, you can't isolate Scripture. While Romans 10:9 is a good verse on salvation, it certainly isn't the only one. Romans 10:9 doesn't say anything about repentance, but repentance is necessary for salvation, as is seen in numerous verses.

Acts 20:21 "Testifying both to the Jews and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ."

2 Corinthians 6:10 "For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death."

2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance."

Luke 24:46-47 "And said into them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:
47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem."

As you can see John Y there is more to salvation than Romans 10;9. You can't base theology on one verse, but the whole Bible. As for the altar call, show me in Scripture (NT) anything resembling a hym of invitation, a preacher all dressed up in an expensive suit, calling people down to him to pray a prayer he tells them for salvation.

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News Item10/14/13 11:44 PM
May I suggest  Find all comments by May I suggest
The Almost Christian by the Puritan Matthew Mead...available as a PDF.
Quite soul searching!!!
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