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WEDNESDAY, SEP 25, 2013  |  263 comments
No communion for Nancy Pelosi: Vatican court head

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi has no Catholic right to be granted Communion, said the leading cardinal of the highest court at the Vatican.

Mrs. Pelosi should be denied Communion until she changes her advocacy views on abortion, Cardinal Raymond Leo Burke said, according to the Western Center for Journalism.

That’s canon law, not opinion, he said. Canon 915 states that Catholics who are stubbornly contrary “in manifest grave sin are not to be admitted to Holy Communion.”

And Cardinal Burke said Mrs. Pelosi fits the definition. ...


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John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Christopher000 wrote:
Perfect summary, John, and this single fact/requirement, all by itself, incriminates the one true church. All of their false doctrines, Pagan rituals, etc, work directly against what you posted so, as I've said so many times before, I don't understand the arguments...I don't know how anyone can argue for something that has no defense.
I used to wonder Chris why so many reformed sermons seemed to major on justification by faith. However, I now see that if the church loses sight of this all important doctrine, or is not strong in understanding it, apostasy is only a short step away. This is how the RCC fights on for the victory, even though a victory over doctrine just furthers their lostness.
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News Item10/2/13 3:21 PM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Perfect summary, John, and this single fact/requirement, all by itself, incriminates the one true church. All of their false doctrines, Pagan rituals, etc, work directly against what you posted so, as I've said so many times before, I don't understand the arguments...I don't know how anyone can argue for something that has no defense.
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News Item10/2/13 8:22 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Christopher000 wrote:
By the way, I am fully aware that no church is perfect, and am fully aware that there are errors to some extent pretty much anywhere, but the Roman system is on its own playing field; preferring manmade tradition to the word of God, even when the word of God teaches against the very things they practice, teach, and observe.
There are many issues Chris on which no church has it all sewn up. However, there is one issue which is so important, that to get it wrong would spell disaster for our souls. I am speaking of course on the doctrine of justification, or how a sinner may be reconciled to God.

The Bible is very clear on this, and no church has an excuse for not getting this 100% correct. A man is accounted righteous before God only for the merits of the Lord Jesus Christ imputed to him and appropriated through faith. Thus salvation is by grace alone through faith alone in the Lord Jesus alone, and to God alone be all the glory.

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News Item10/2/13 7:27 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
By the way, I am fully aware that no church is perfect, and am fully aware that there are errors to some extent pretty much anywhere, but the Roman system is on its own playing field; preferring manmade tradition to the word of God, even when the word of God teaches against the very things they practice, teach, and observe.
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News Item10/2/13 7:19 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Thanks, b4real. I always find it interesting how it is that when people argue for the Roman system, and call anyone who stands against them, haters, lost, hypocrites, etc, never once have I seen them provide any rebuttal to the fatal false doctrines, Pagan rituals, idolotry, etc, that we fight and warn against. Never once have I seen them admit the great, eternal danger, but rather defend it all by saying, "yes, they have errors like anyone else, but they are just as Christian as you and me'. How can anyone who is truly born again, being fully aware of their many false doctrines and manmade, anti-god traditions continue to defend the system and even encourage others to stay put?
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News Item10/1/13 10:07 AM
b4real  Find all comments by b4real
Christopher000,

You bring up an interesting point that Catholics who claim to be 'in Christ' refuse to address, or address wrongly. Would Christ leave His elect in an apostate church? No! The Spirit of God would bring the regenerated child of God OUT of that, God does not put His child in danger.
Christ Himself warns, 'take heed no man deceive you'. When the false teachings of the RCC are addressed, the RCC'rs do not respond. For example, the worship of Mary, and praying to her. I have pointed out that Christ tells us we are to pray to our Father {Matt. 6:9}. When pressed on this issue, they ignore the question. This is only one of many false teachings adhered to by the RCC. A true regenerated follower of Christ would never go through the ritual of an apostate church for any length of time. After God saved me, I left the church I grew up in because it is apostate, it only took a short amount of time for God to remove me from it.

Here is the key issue Roman Catholics do NOT get, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God." The doctrine of regeneration is lacking from the RCC. God the Spirit does not reside in false religions that exalt mortal men as vicars.

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News Item10/1/13 7:39 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Well, considering the frightening fact that the road to Heaven won't see a lot of foot traffic, I'd have to disagree. I tend to think that there won't be any surprises when it comes to who we will see in Heaven. I feel that if we feel that someone couldn't possibly be a Christian while on Earth, we most likely won't see them in Heaven. I just feel like true Christians are set apart, and once you get to know one, you realize that there is something different about them, before even finding out that they are born again.
Hi US, I guess what I was curious about is the born again Christians who remain within the Roman system...those who just haven't broken free yet. I don't know how Christ could be presiding over services that actively re-sacrifice him, pray to Mary and the saints, pull Him out of Heaven and put him in a wafer/box, pray for the dead, curse those who dare to defy them, live lavishly and sinfully, worship his earthly mother, believe a mere man can forgive sins, and the list goes on, and on, and on...
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News Item9/30/13 5:33 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
An old saying wrote:
The surprise in Heaven will not be you seeing who is there. The real surprise in Heaven will be the first of many, who upon seeing you, cry out, "Thank the Lord! I never thought I'd see YOU here!"
You talking about John Yurich again.
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News Item9/30/13 5:24 PM
An old saying | an old farmer  Find all comments by An old saying
The surprise in Heaven will not be you seeing who is there. The real surprise in Heaven will be the first of many, who upon seeing you, cry out, "Thank the Lord! I never thought I'd see YOU here!"
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News Item9/30/13 5:14 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
factual truths wrote:
Truth does not change. Biblical truth - Reformation truth and truth today remain the same.
On the face of it, sounds okay. But look into it and you find that much Reformation "truth" needed much more reforming. Rome wasn't built in a day, and restoration of biblical blueprint to the church does not happen overnight.

I think that every Christian will praise the Lord for the Protestant Reformation, but I also think the Reformers would not like to have their names up in lights. Mr Calvin would be disappointed with you. When it comes to sound doctrine from the Bible, it is called "The Biblical Doctrines of Free and Sovereign Grace". The reason for this, is because the expression glorifies God and no man. It speaks of God, God's word, and God's works. Soli Deo Gloria.

Please also note that God chooses whom he saves, not man. And no man knows whom God has chosen, contrary to the great Presby error which claims to know exactly whom God has chosen.

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News Item9/30/13 4:38 PM
factual truths  Find all comments by factual truths
John UK wrote:
The elect church at Colosse was neither Protestant, Presbyterian-denominated, nor had they even heard of Mr Calvin.
Truth does not change. Biblical truth - Reformation truth and truth today remain the same.

a) God ordained the Reformation. Those to whom God gave the grace to recognise the heresy of Rome and the grace to leave Rome and protest against its unbiblical works were/are the Protestants.

b) Presbyterian simply applies to the Biblical form of church government. Namely Jesus is the Head - and all are beneath Him. There is no hierarchy on earth in the true church.

c) Calvin and 5th century Augustine are two of God's servants whom God has used to teach the true Biblical doctrines of Christ. When one perceives the Biblical doctrine in truth, then one simply agrees with Calvin. Those who do not perceive the Calvinist teachings of doctrine are invariably works based salvationists and free willers who cannot comprehend sin.

John 3:21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

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News Item9/30/13 2:43 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
factual truths wrote:
That verse like the rest of the Bible is only applicable to the TRUE Elect Church Steve, which is Protestant, Presbyterian and Calvinist.
The elect church at Colosse was neither Protestant, Presbyterian-denominated, nor had they even heard of Mr Calvin.

Colossians 3:11-13 KJV
11 Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.
12 Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering;
13 Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye.

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News Item9/30/13 10:25 AM
penny  Find all comments by penny
should we be anti-Semites, antimuslems, anti any group of people? what kind of language is this?

many muslems are semites and many jews are not semites and, ...on and on.

what about kabbalah? are we supposed to be prokabbalah and if we deny God is male and female does that make us antisemitical?

what was luther and calvin exactly against?? (not trying to defend them, because I think forcing a Jewish family to baptize their baby in a Christian church is ludicrous).

just throwing some question out there, I just see a blending of modern political correctness and redefining of terms....

the point, I hope is that the beginning and ending of all things is Christ. Mary was not "holy" like God, but made righteouss through faith, just like any of us. We do her no harm to hold her as one of our own. We can still be thankful for her righteous work, just as we are John the Baptist and the disciples.

just some thoughts for the gentlemen on here, I'll probably bow back out..

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News Item9/30/13 10:06 AM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
factual truths wrote:
That verse like the rest of the Bible is only applicable to the TRUE Elect Church Steve, which is Protestant, Presbyterian and Calvinist.
Have the requirements eased?

You didnt include without memorizing the shorter and possessing a notorized copy of the Westminster Longer Catechism

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News Item9/30/13 9:28 AM
factual truths  Find all comments by factual truths
SteveR wrote:
Matthew 18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
That verse like the rest of the Bible is only applicable to the TRUE Elect Church Steve, which is Protestant, Presbyterian and Calvinist.
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News Item9/30/13 9:05 AM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
Unprofitable Servant wrote:
Don't fret about it brother Christopher. It is just SteveR misapplying and quoting out context the Holy Bible like he usually does. II Peter 3:16b (KJV)"... which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction." If he starts with a false assumption it stands to reason he will come to a false conclusion. God bless.
Your heart must be completely darkened by hate of Gods people to not understand

Matthew 18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

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News Item9/30/13 8:49 AM
Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
Christopher000 wrote:
SteveR writes:
Christopher000 wrote:
The spirit of Christ isn't there so nobody has the desire, need, or interest in fellowshipping with anyone
You couldnt be more wrong
Matthew 18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
Hey Steve, I'll be interested to read any comments because that does give me some trouble and have me wondering how that works...
Don't fret about it brother Christopher. It is just SteveR misapplying and quoting out context the Holy Bible like he usually does. II Peter 3:16b (KJV)"... which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction." If he starts with a false assumption it stands to reason he will come to a false conclusion. God bless.
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News Item9/30/13 8:01 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
SteveR writes:
Christopher000 wrote:
The spirit of Christ isn't there so nobody has the desire, need, or interest in fellowshipping with anyone
You couldnt be more wrong

Matthew 18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

Hey Steve, I'll be interested to read any comments because that does give me some trouble and have me wondering how that works...

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News Item9/30/13 7:59 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
By the way, if Luther was wrong about his anti-Semitic stance, how can you properly determine what else he was right or wrong about? The Bible explains perfectly what he was wrong about; the errors that he carried out with him. Romes view of Mary being ever virgin, the mother of God, Queen of Heaven, etc, are the qualifications they needed in order to diefy her. According to Rome, Mary is basically in charge, exercises the same powers that are reserved for God Himself, co-redeemed mankind, co-mediates alongside Christ, and without Mary, salvation is impossible (Romes own words).
The Bible alone is right, not a Pope, a priest, manmade traditions, a religious system, Luther, or your brother...the Bible alone, no matter what any sin filled man may spew.

Great comments below, and Frank...thanks for the comment. I was hoping, even expecting to hear something back today. Steve, if you need anything...

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News Item9/30/13 7:59 AM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
Christopher000 wrote:
The spirit of Christ isn't there so nobody has the desire, need, or interest in fellowshipping with anyone
You couldnt be more wrong

Matthew 18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

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