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FRIDAY, SEP 20, 2013  |  30 comments
Can Prayer and the Bible Alone Help Someone Overcome Mental Illness?

Can prayer and the Bible, alone, help someone overcome a serious mental illness? This question is one that LifeWay Research, a faith-based polling firm, recently asked respondents ‚ÄĒ and the results might not be what you expect.

In the wake of a broader discussion in Christian circles about these disorders and their impact on believers, the findings indicate that nearly half of evangelicals, born-again Christians and fundamentalists (48 percent) believe that the Bible and prayer, alone, can help people overcome these barriers.

Forty-seven percent of believers, though, disagree with the notion that these elements, alone, will cure serious illnesses like bipolar disorder, schizophrenia and depression. ...


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News Item9/23/13 10:31 AM
penny  Find all comments by penny
ah Dolores, I didn't expect such a nice response, I appreciate your comments as well.
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News Item9/23/13 12:10 AM
Dolores L | Texas  Find all comments by Dolores L
Thank you so much Penny..I really appreciate your comments that have helped so much.
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News Item9/22/13 9:35 PM
penny  Find all comments by penny
Dolores, I am praying for you, dear sister.
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News Item9/22/13 3:00 PM
Dolores L | Texas  Find all comments by Dolores L
I have a friend age 45 that struggles with clincal depression..she has tried herbs, natural vitamins everything she could to ease her suffering she's prayed which hard to do when in a deep depression or read the Bible. She has finally agreed to start on medicine and she's still taking all the rest as well..it'so hard to make people who have never suffered with Major Deppression..totally different from from a case of sadness over some death in the family etc. This depression is a fatal disease if they don't get help. I had a friend commit sucide..my mother had thoughts of sucide once in her depression she was on Valium until she died because she was so close to a nervous breakdown and she was a devote christian..her brother shot himself but survived and was in a wheel chair for the rest of his life. I take medicine for depression and thank God that He has provided something to ease that suffering. My friend ask me why doesn't God heal her so she doesn't have to take medicine. I don't know the answer to that all I know is my doctor explained to me that I was born with low seriton and when under stress I lose what little I have..so I take the medicine and thank God
od for it.If I were a diebetic, I would take the medicine and watch my diet and thank God for it..just as my parents h
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News Item9/22/13 2:57 PM
Hreick  Find all comments by Hreick
Mike wrote:
Is it prudent to imply what God can do, or does, by saying Christians no longer work miracles? What if they don't? How does this put God in a bind?
The actual question in the heading is,
"Can Prayer and the Bible Alone Help Someone Overcome Mental Illness?"

If you are asking the question will human choice and action change God's mind to effect human desires then the answer is no. Man has never nor will ever take charge of God and His purpose and plan for mankind.

If on the other hand you are asking "Can God" - then the true Christian position is that God can do anything.

If you are suggesting that God does not work in and through His followers! - Then frankly where does He work?

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News Item9/22/13 1:57 PM
Delmyor  Find all comments by Delmyor
Andrew wrote:
I believe all things 'physical' have their basis in the spiritual. Jim seems to miss that point. It appears that in His Wisdom God has made sure that those who reject Him will, in their iniquity, pass said iniquity down the genetic line
Here is a little question for you Andrew. Does God create the soul/spirit for every mortal born?

As for the flesh part of us that is "created" by mum and dad. Yes?

My Mum and Dad had certain specific ailments - and I have been diagnosed with some of them. Was that inheritance or just coincidence?

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News Item9/22/13 10:09 AM
Strat  Find all comments by Strat
Man has been making,looking for and creating excuses for his behavior since Eden.
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News Item9/22/13 9:29 AM
penny  Find all comments by penny
Thanks Andy! I think along the same lines... because absolute trust in mans philosophies is along the lines of idolatry. it is no surprise to me the physical and spiritual manifestations of such absolute trust... yes, as you mentioned the chemical wastes are considered toxic and have to be disposed of at high expense, instead our cities give them money for the toxic waste and our kidneys filter it out.

I wonder if baking soda would work? I know people are making their own but can't think of the recipe off the top of my head.

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News Item9/22/13 5:42 AM
Andrew | Australia  Contact via emailFind all comments by Andrew
By the way, Penny; I recently ran out of my stash of herbal (fluoride-free) toothpaste. Do you think I could find it, in order to restock, anywhere? Not yet! It's hard to not believe there's not a conspiracy (spiritual basis) in this regard. Eventually, I guess I'll have to learn how to make my own fluoride-free toothpaste. Kindest regards to you from Andy!
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News Item9/22/13 5:31 AM
Andrew | Australia  Contact via emailFind all comments by Andrew
Dear Penny; I don't have time to respond in detail right now. All I'm saying is that I am always on the lookout for the spiritual basis of all things. Have you considered what might be the spiritual basis of heavy metal accumulation in the human body, whether a placenta is involved or not? Just think about it. For example, the iniquity of man causing him to not consider the implications of excess heavy metals in the environment making their way into the food chain and water, and even the 'adjuvants' (especially Mercury) in immunisations, likely due to profiteering/greed for money (even though the adjuvants in immunisations supposedly act as preservatives). Fluoride in toothpaste? Spiritual basis for that? Likely just selling off the waste product from coal-fired power stations. I don't have all the answers, Penny; I just like to think about it.
Cheers from Andy!
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News Item9/22/13 12:01 AM
Dolores L | Texas  Find all comments by Dolores L
An instant healing..left the word instant out.Ive never seen these but I believe they happen but only as God so wills and always for His glory.
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News Item9/21/13 11:55 PM
Dolores L | Texas  Find all comments by Dolores L
Yes, God does still work miracles and if you would open your eyes you would see. Where in the Bible does it say that the gifts of healing and miracles are no longer for today?? Everytime you have surgery and survive it is God that did it..He gave the doctors the knowledge to cut on you,the antibotics to heal you..the doctors cut you open but God makes the wound close up and heal. Have you read how penicillin was discovered by Fleming..he was working on bacteria in different petra dishes when a window that just happened to be open and a spore blew in landed in one of the dishes and the mold began to destroy the bacteria.The fact I'm alive today is because of cirumstances that can't be explained and I knew God healed me in 2004 of cancer in my Uterus..I had surgery but no chemo or radition because it was caught so early through unusual circumstances that I know it was God. He heals all our diseases..sometimes through doctors and medicine (a merry heart doeth good like a medicine Proverbs) Luke was a physcian. Sometimes through a miracle and sometimes he says" No, but my grace is sufficent"
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News Item9/21/13 9:38 PM
penny  Find all comments by penny
Andrew, does your solid background in health care address the placenta crossover and accumulation of heavy metals that many are seeing as the norm now (as opposed to even 20 years ago)?
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News Item9/21/13 8:35 PM
Andrew | Australia  Contact via emailFind all comments by Andrew
Hope this is food for thought. I have a solid background in science and health care, and it's interesting how God brings it all together for me. I'd be interested to hear what you think. Cheers from Andy!
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News Item9/21/13 8:33 PM
Andrew | Australia  Contact via emailFind all comments by Andrew
Although I am yet to understand fully, I am coming to an understanding of the significance of 'visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me...' (Exodus 20:5 KJV) in regard to genetics and inheritance. I believe all things 'physical' have their basis in the spiritual. Jim seems to miss that point. It appears that in His Wisdom God has made sure that those who reject Him will, in their iniquity, pass said iniquity down the genetic line. The consequences of iniquity manifests in various 'physical' (visibly observable) and spiritual (non-visibly observable, yet often still observable indirectly) illnesses/diseases; these are what the medico-scientific community call inherited diseases. Does this mean that if we have inherited them we are stuck with them for this lifetime on Earth? Not necessarily, because all things can be overcome through Christ. How Christ brings that healing about is another issue altogether, but the fact that He can heal from all afflictions is undeniable. Is everything inherited? Not necessarily in the way described above; e.g. 'common cold', flu, gastro, other 'transmissible' diseases; and yet, in a way, we are even 'inheriting' these from others, only not always from our blood relatives. Hope
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News Item9/21/13 6:02 PM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
Jim Lincoln wrote:
No, you can't limit God, and you can pray for the recovery for a physical, mental illness, but since miracles were used as proof for apostleship, and there are no more apostles around, then there is no reason to expect such healings.
Jim, the performing of or gift of miracles was not associated only with the apostles. Also, why would someone pray for something if they don't think God will do it?

Matthew 7:21 "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven {will enter.} 22 "Many will say to Me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?' 23 "And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.'

1 Corinthians 12:28, And God has appointed in the church, first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, {various} kinds of tongues.

Remember, this issue is not dealing with which gifts remain today. Like Mike is alluding to; the issue is can or even if God will heal today or perform miracles - YES, He can and does.

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News Item9/21/13 3:58 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Jim Lincoln wrote:
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No, you can't limit God, and you can pray for the recovery for a physical, mental illness, but since miracles were used as proof for apostleship, and there are no more apostles around, then there is no reason to expect such healings.
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If miracles were defined as events provided by apostles, you might be right.
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News Item9/21/13 3:49 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
A lot of psychosomatic illnesses are from one thing, sin, and anyone who asks God's help, can easily learn How to Have Victory Over Sin

No, you can't limit God, and you can pray for the recovery for a physical, mental illness, but since miracles were used as proof for apostleship, and there are no more apostles around, then there is no reason to expect such healings. Some Gifts Not Present Today.

You can see perhaps most or all of John MacArthur's book Charismatic Chaos on line, or get a printed copy from such sites online as Charismatic Chaos at "Sound Words."

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News Item9/20/13 8:05 PM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
LenB and Rob Sam, I do thank you for your come back, but I'm afraid you are raising strawman arguments. The issue as I saw it was "can" God do these things. The verses I quoted would never be quoted by a card carrying Charismatic. They rarely and perhaps never even consider God's will when He responds to prayers, but believe they can use some type of formula and God must respond to them. In other words, God serves them and not the other way around. They worship their faith instead of the faith-giver. It is very unlikely my verses would be used by them. But, if they were that doesn't logically matter if you think about it. They would have to understand them in the same way I do and they don't.

Now I doubt very seriously whether or not you really meant to say that God can't do something or that we should put limits on God by saying He "won't" do something. The only thing my Lord won't do is something that doesn't glorify Him.

But, thanks for your comments!

Mike, I agree with your thoughts.

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News Item9/20/13 7:12 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Is it prudent to imply what God can do, or does, by saying Christians no longer work miracles? What if they don't? How does this put God in a bind?
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