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THURSDAY, SEP 19, 2013  |  14 comments
Unpaid Pastors May Be 'Future Of The Church' For Protestant Congregations

The 50 members of All Saints Episcopal Church in Hitchcock, Texas, are looking forward to December, when Mark Marmon will be ordained their priest.

One reason for the excitement? They won’t have to pay him.

A 57-year-old fly fishing guide, Marmon, whose wife is a lawyer, says he doesn’t want or need a church salary. He belongs to a growing breed of mainline Protestant clergy who serve congregations in exchange for little or no compensation.


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News Item9/20/13 2:27 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Why John Y., ever hear of fires started by barbeque grills and propane tank explosions? 5 Worst Barbeque Disasters. This will short article will give some statistics on outdoor cooking. Scary.

By the way,

1 Timothy 5
17 Let the elders who rule well be considered worthy of double honor, especially those who work hard at preaching and teaching.
18 For the Scripture says, "YOU SHALL NOT MUZZLE THE OX WHILE HE IS THRESHING," and "The laborer is worthy of his wages."---NASB

If a pastor is spending a significant time taking care of the spiritual needs of a group of Christians, he deserves a wage.

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News Item9/20/13 1:48 PM
fires don't start from grills  Find all comments by fires don't start from grills
John Yurich USA wrote:
Well if one uses an outdoor grill and an outdoor oven then there is zero chance of a fire starting inside from cooking. Why take the chance of a fire starting inside by using the stove and oven?
great point, ya know, some fires start from electrical wiring inside a home, maybe we should eliminate electricity in the home too? And have you addressed the incoming Indians with fire on their arrows mentioned by John UK, that could be a real problem. Ultimately the fire we have to be concerned about is the one that burns eternally and is never extinguished.
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News Item9/20/13 1:44 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
John Yurich USA wrote:
Well if one uses an outdoor grill and an outdoor oven then there is zero chance of a fire starting inside from cooking. Why take the chance of a fire starting inside by using the stove and oven?
Because then you won't get smoke in your eyes from the grill and fall onto the grill.
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News Item9/20/13 1:11 PM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
fires don't start from grills wrote:
you really have any data showing outdoor grills are safer than stoves with ovens?
Well if one uses an outdoor grill and an outdoor oven then there is zero chance of a fire starting inside from cooking. Why take the chance of a fire starting inside by using the stove and oven?
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News Item9/20/13 12:54 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
geronimo wrote:
Yeah but that only happens in Wales.
Especially if there is a painter working locally.
I don't do face-painting.
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News Item9/20/13 12:47 PM
geronimo  Find all comments by geronimo
John UK wrote:
Also, if the smoke is blown by the wind into certain patterns, it won't be long before on top of the hill you'll see a long line of Indians on horseback, all wearing their war paint and making funny noises.
Yeah but that only happens in Wales.

Especially if there is a painter working locally.

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News Item9/20/13 12:05 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Mike wrote:
Outdoor grills are dangerous. The wind can blow smoke in your eyes. Then when you can't see, you'll trip over something and fall onto the grill, and get grill stripes burned on your face.
Also, if the smoke is blown by the wind into certain patterns, it won't be long before on top of the hill you'll see a long line of Indians on horseback, all wearing their war paint and making funny noises.
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News Item9/20/13 11:14 AM
fires don't start from grills  Find all comments by fires don't start from grills
John Yurich USA wrote:
It is ok to make meals from scratch using the outdoor grill or an outdoor oven but it is stupid to cook inside using the stove and oven with the possibility of a fire starting using the stove and oven.
you really have any data showing outdoor grills are safer than stoves with ovens?
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News Item9/20/13 11:00 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
John Yurich USA wrote:
It is ok to make meals from scratch using the outdoor grill or an outdoor oven but it is stupid to cook inside using the stove and oven with the possibility of a fire starting using the stove and oven.
Outdoor grills are dangerous. The wind can blow smoke ion your eyes. Then when you can't see, you'll trip over something and fall onto the grill, and get grill stripes burned on your face.
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News Item9/20/13 10:07 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
new aged infiltration wrote:
@penny, you just can't wait until all the churches are destroyed can you?
most people can cook wholesome foods from meats grains and vegetables found in a supermarket, this is the food fear of the new ager, just like vaccines... now we are having outbreaks of those diseases you new agers refused to vaccinate against ...
new agers worship their bodies, and would not like to go through dirth and trust in God like our ancestors ...
If I may interject.

I challenge you to trust in God and put diesel fuel in your petrol car. Duh!

Man, you sure love your car, don't you!

p.s. the vegetables I buy in my local supermarket are mainly imports, they all look identical in size and shape, have no taste whatever, and I am sure are doing me NO GOOD WHATEVER.

Oh and BTW, I am NOT a new ager, but a blood-bought child of God. So stick that in your cocaine pipe and smoke it, or your gin and tonic and drink it. Oh, but maybe you don't smoke and drink eh? Wonder why not.

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News Item9/20/13 10:06 AM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
new aged infiltration wrote:
Most people can cook wholesome foods from meats grains and vegetables found in a supermarket.
It is ok to make meals from scratch using the outdoor grill or an outdoor oven but it is stupid to cook inside using the stove and oven with the possibility of a fire starting using the stove and oven.
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News Item9/20/13 9:39 AM
new aged infiltration | USA  Find all comments by new aged infiltration
@penny, you just can't wait until all the churches are destroyed can you?

most people can cook wholesome foods from meats grains and vegetables found in a supermarket, this is the food fear of the new ager, just like vaccines... now we are having outbreaks of those diseases you new agers refused to vaccinate against ...

new agers worship their bodies, and would not like to go through dirth and trust in God like our ancestors ...

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News Item9/19/13 8:03 PM
MG | Australia  Find all comments by MG
I agree with Penny - times are changing! I believe the true church will be much stronger, more pure and truly set-apart than we see right now! I've been meeting with other brothers and sisters in a home for a number of years now. It's GOD, Himself, that matures His people, not (necessarily) a pastor.
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News Item9/19/13 9:32 AM
penny  Find all comments by penny
the trending I'm seeing ......many mega churches protecting their turf and investments through compromise and smaller congregations not able to support their pastors or less and less. It may come to the point where believers meet with who they can in their home. I would not be surprised by this at all. There are large numbers of believers who have been leaving multiple denominations because of the false state worship, prosperity gospel, war mongering, abortion worshipping environment that has passed its way off as church. They are praying for strengthening during times of persecution that they will remain in the faith, while praying for their pretrib friends who expect Jesus to take us out of the fields that we sowed.

Judging from Rick Warren's comments, we are continuing on in this pattern.

Work is getting harder to come by, and to expect a pastor to take care of his family, in itself will be difficult. Perhaps "official" pastors will be the ones who's wives are outside the home working for obamacare, prescribing psychotropic drugs to children, and their kids going to public schools, while those who try to protect their family's body/soul, that know how to cook real meals and grow natural foods will have to be more creative about ministry.

Times are changing!

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