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THURSDAY, SEP 19, 2013  |  21 comments
Will Rick Warren lead a Christian movement for gun control?

Bestselling author and mega-church pastor Rick Warren and his wife, Kay, have been pushing Christians on social issues for the last decade. They were among the first evangelical leaders to begin championing adoption, which helped turn it into an issue of top priority among the faithful. And through their P.E.A.C.E. plan, they’ve helped mobilize evangelicals to fight AIDS, a disease many Christians believed was God’s judgment on gays and lesbians only a generation ago.

“It may actually be shorter to list causes that [Rick and Kay Warren] have not dedicated time and energy to,” CNN’s Daniel Burke wrote on Tuesday.

But after the Warren’s interview with CNN’s Piers Morgan last night about their son’s suicide and other issues, many wonder whether the religious power couple might lead a Christian movement for gun control. ...


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pennned  Find all comments by pennned
I ask myself the same questions. Its very disturbing, watching the churches over the years purge themselves of their true elders as they conform their churches to his modernism, and now his true colors showing. The SBC is in a lot of trouble right now, in my opinion (as they should be preparing themselves spiritually for what has come upon the country and the spirit demanded on them will be "compromise" of the gospel). The new pres pushing tithes for blessings, even requiring of the impoverished or curses type name it claim it stuff. and R Land, stepped down but full on Zionist (wars) CFR member, and now we see the end result in all the other articles today. The Ch's are being hunted down and eliminated as I write this. Lord have mercy. This control oriented group is doing to the convention what liberalism never fully accomplished at a time when the same fascism is sweeping the whole country (thereby making them a part of the new order in behavior instead of watchmen of the scriptures and belief in individual rght)

In the end, the true biblical teachers, who love their people and bring them the truth, they are in my prayers. They need to know, like the Christians hiding in caves tonight in Nineveh that God has placed on the hearts of others to intercede for them.

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News Item8/9/14 9:18 AM
Ted  Find all comments by Ted
Is not this guy a southern baptist? What is going on in the SBC with these leaders that become overlords to the christian community and interfere in our way of life? What happend to servant leadership? Why are these leaders in the church going against our constitution and our way of life? Who gave him the power to think that he can abuse my freedoms as a American? Time to do some house cleaning in the SBC.
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News Item8/9/14 8:54 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Even this Republican had a hard time pushing gun control Death of Reagan's Press Secretary James Brady Ruled a Homicide .
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News Item4/23/14 5:46 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Apparently not. I haven't heard very much about gun control lately anyway. The Republican Congress did not even want to look into it, the problems of gun violence. Meet the Doctor Who Gave $1 Million of His Own Money to Keep His Gun Research Going
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News Item9/26/13 10:45 AM
Mr b  Find all comments by Mr b
He's also a leader in the seeker sensitive apostate church. Nothing to see here, just a train wreck , move along...
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News Item9/23/13 7:35 PM
Strat  Find all comments by Strat
SteveR wrote:
I know the anti gun control argument has merit, I just dont approve of attacking the mans Church because of his stance on this secular issue. It would be best if certain self described Christians seperate their faith in GOD from their lust of the 2nd Amendment
it would alo be good if some self decribed Christians would exchange their lust for celebrity and acceptance by society for true biblical doctrine.
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News Item9/19/13 7:24 PM
Thomas the Doubter | Ohio  Find all comments by Thomas the Doubter
Steve R , are you really Rick Warren? Lol
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News Item9/19/13 3:45 PM
Angela Wittman | Southern Illinois  Find all comments by Angela Wittman
Why doesn't Rick Warren read his Bible and get to the heart of the matter instead of trying to be like the liberal progressives? If he wants to get involved in social issues, then why not try to abolish prenatal baby murder? Oh, that isn't exactly a popular thing to do in our "politically correct" society, is it?
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News Item9/19/13 2:34 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Too bad, Ricky didn't stop with pushing adoption, one of the best cures in the secular world for abortion. Apparently, he just didn't know where to stop.

Of course there is no reason for Christians not to co-operate in secular jobs, I can't see why law-abiding Christians, Muhammadans, Buddhists, atheists, etc. couldn't be working in one fire house as firemen for instance.

But no, we have nothing in common with Islam and Extremism: What is Underneath.

I would agree with others Rick Warren is not a Christian. He certainly doesn't realize the Church is to be Committed to the Ministry of the Truth

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News Item9/19/13 2:10 PM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
GS Texas wrote:
I could care less about his stance on gun control, the point I was making is that he is a false prophet, which is clear as day if you know the Bible.Any pastor that tries to bring Christianity and Islam together is of Satan.
GS, I agree with you. Thanks for your comment.

"Rather than apologetics demonstrating the inconsistency between the Koran and the Bible, Allah and Yahweh, the co-authored document affirms that Christians and Muslims believe in “one God,” share two central commandments: “love of God” and “love of neighbor,” and commits both faiths to three goals: Making friends with one another, building peace and working on shared social service projects."

I call Rick Warren a chameleon, who fools those who don’t see him change colors. See, he even fooled SteveR. You are correct in your assessment. Rick Warren is a false prophet!

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News Item9/19/13 12:30 PM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
GS Texas wrote:
I could care less about his stance on gun control, the point I was making is that he is a false prophet, which is clear as day if you know the Bible.Any pastor that tries to bring Christianity and Islam together is of Satan.
Since I had no idea what you were talking about, I googled Warren and Islam and found the following

"By Alex Murashko, Christian Post Reporter

March 2, 2012|5:53 pm

LAKE FOREST, Calif. – Influential evangelist Pastor Rick Warren has labeled as "flat out wrong" a local newspaper's assertion that he believes Muslims and Christians worship the same God, has partnered with Southern California mosques and has agreed not to evangelize Muslims."

Spreading rumours and backbiting is not what Christians are called to do

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News Item9/19/13 11:35 AM
GS Texas | Texas  Find all comments by GS Texas
I could care less about his stance on gun control, the point I was making is that he is a false prophet, which is clear as day if you know the Bible.Any pastor that tries to bring Christianity and Islam together is of Satan.
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News Item9/19/13 11:08 AM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
penny wrote:
in the conversation instead of their own personal responsibility for encouragement drug use, and their son's responsibility for his actions, he appeals to the class warfare that MSM is trying to promote.
but this is exactly the direction I expect mainstream evangelicalism to go.
and of course, as they do not want their own people to be able to defend themselves, and will be outspoken about that, not a peep about us arming AQ, wasn't Syria one of his pet projects at one time?
Get out much?

Evangelicals are pro gun rights. Too bad they havent shown the same zeal for the Pro Life or Pro Marriage positions

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News Item9/19/13 9:15 AM
penny  Find all comments by penny
in the conversation instead of their own personal responsibility for encouragement drug use, and their son's responsibility for his actions, he appeals to the class warfare that MSM is trying to promote.

but this is exactly the direction I expect mainstream evangelicalism to go.

and of course, as they do not want their own people to be able to defend themselves, and will be outspoken about that, not a peep about us arming AQ, wasn't Syria one of his pet projects at one time?

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News Item9/19/13 9:14 AM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
Mike wrote:
Steve.
"I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery."
- Thomas Jefferson
"To disarm the people is the most effectual way to enslave them."
- George Mason
"The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the best and most natural defense of a free country."
- James Madison
Steve. If warrens son, was to acquire a rope, should we ban that from citizens?
It's a tragic thing that happened. But the issue, is not guns. The issue is the state of the person.
As for Warren. He is a Chameleon of many colors.
I know the anti gun control argument has merit, I just dont approve of attacking the mans Church because of his stance on this secular issue. It would be best if certain self described Christians seperate their faith in GOD from their lust of the 2nd Amendment
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News Item9/19/13 9:03 AM
Mike | Florida  Find all comments by Mike
Steve.
"I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery."
- Thomas Jefferson

"To disarm the people is the most effectual way to enslave them."
- George Mason

"The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the best and most natural defense of a free country."
- James Madison
Steve. If warrens son, was to acquire a rope, should we ban that from citizens?
It's a tragic thing that happened. But the issue, is not guns. The issue is the state of the person.
As for Warren. He is a Chameleon of many colors.

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News Item9/19/13 8:56 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
SteveR wrote:
...hissing noise from a serpent
Steve, here is an example of a hissing noise:

"But going back to this thing about heaven and getting into a perfect place. Let’s say we got a scale of 1 to 100. Let’s put Hitler at zero and Mother Teresa at 100 OK. And Steve you’re at 85 and Larry’s at 65 and I’m at 45. The truth is, some people are better than others, there’s no doubt about it. Some people are more moral than others, they’re nicer, they’re less selfish, less self-centered, things like that. But the truth is, nobody makes [it] to perfection… And so somebody’s got to make up that difference. And that’s the gift I believe Jesus came to – to make up the difference between my zero and my 100 or my 45 and 100 -- somebody’s got to make up that difference." (RW)

Did you get that?

Do you think he actually understands what salvation is?

You think he's running a Christian church?

You don't believe he's leading people to hell?

Eh?

Why Rick Warren is a False Teacher

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News Item9/19/13 8:32 AM
Mike | Florida  Find all comments by Mike
The most dangerous thing. Is Rick Warrens teachings.
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News Item9/19/13 8:25 AM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
GS Texas wrote:
False prophets like Rick Warren are far more dangerous to society than guns in that his false teachings lead many to hell.
2 Timothy 3:13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse deceiving and being deceived."
2 Timothy 4:3-4 "For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears." 4 "And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned into fables."
You are just plain cruel to attack Warren because he might lobby for gun control. He lost a son over an all too easy to acquire handgun. While Im not crazy about Saddlebacks doctrine, it is a CHRISTIAN Church. To say he is leading people to hell while preaching the Gospel is just hissing noise from a serpent
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News Item9/19/13 2:01 AM
GS Texas | Texas  Find all comments by GS Texas
False prophets like Rick Warren are far more dangerous to society than guns in that his false teachings lead many to hell.
2 Timothy 3:13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse deceiving and being deceived."
2 Timothy 4:3-4 "For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears." 4 "And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned into fables."
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