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FRONT PAGE  |  9/30/2016
WEDNESDAY, SEP 18, 2013  |  17 comments
Households on Food Stamps Now Outnumber All Households in Northeast U.S.

A record 23,116,928 American households were enrolled in the federal government’s Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP)—AKA food stamps—during the month of June, according to data released this month by the Department of Agriculture.

That outnumbers the 20,618,000 households that the Census Bureau estimated were in the entire Northeastern United States as of the second quarter of 2013.


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News Item9/19/13 11:38 PM
Anne | The Wild West  Find all comments by Anne
Mike, heard of using straw to grow tomatoes and strawberries but have never tried it. You hit the nail on the head there: "An amazing amount of crop can be grown on a little plot, if one has a mind to work." The work part is what gets everybody nowadays it seems. It was Adams curse and we are forever looking for a way out of it, only to find we traded hard work for a more incideous ease and comfort.

"A man shall be satisfied with good by the fruit of his mouth: and the recompence of a man's hands shall be rendered unto him." (Proverbs 12:14 KJV)

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News Item9/19/13 6:29 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Anne wrote:
Mike, ever tried tire potatoes? Bumper crops even if you only have a patio! You can help many a people and your self with one tire and a good bag of dirt. We tried rabbits, too, but they weren't "enjoyed" as much as chickens and eggs - a favorite of ours!
No, I haven't tried tire potatoes, but have tried patio tomatoes. The upside down type container, but more trouble than worth, for the soil got very hot and needed constant watering. Grew nice tomatoes on straw in a field, though. I also had a large garden, maybe 3/4 acre, from which came much stuff, even buckwheat, sunflowers, indian corn. An amazing amount of crop can be grown on a little plot, if one has a mind to work.
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News Item9/19/13 4:42 PM
Anne | The Wild West  Find all comments by Anne
Mike, ever tried tire potatoes? Bumper crops even if you only have a patio! You can help many a people and your self with one tire and a good bag of dirt. We tried rabbits, too, but they weren't "enjoyed" as much as chickens and eggs - a favorite of ours!
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News Item9/19/13 4:28 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Anne wrote:
Lots of jars, indeed! We freeze and smoke elk, deer and fish and buy milk at the store. "Well, not everyone has access to hunting or fishing" is a sorry excuse. Move where you have access or figure it out; it really isn't difficult or expensive. You might be surprised what a rancher/farmer would trade for good work! We've done it! My kids know what hotdogs are; I love ice cream and potato chips; I rue the day I may not have access to a Coke. However, these are expenses to both the wallet and body we greatly limit.
In all, the health debate often forgoes God's grace. We have done mission work where we have watched people pray for God to bless food they dug out of a landfill. While it is our duty to treat our bodies as best we can, circumstances allowed by God may mean I pray "Bless this food" over a bowl of rice. But any government food program drives people to develop a terribly unhealthy diet and in our country there is sorry little excuse for figuring out a way to eat real food.
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Amen Anne! I've raised chickens in an old garage with a 15x20 fenced in yard for them to scratch for pebbles, bugs and worms. This resulted in plenty of meat and eggs.
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News Item9/19/13 3:53 PM
Anne | The Wild West  Find all comments by Anne
Is he actually suggesting that there is something "new under the sun"? Can you not see he is feeding into the entitlement mentality? This is a spoiled, thankless, greedy, lazy mentality. Reminds me of the Israelites a few days after they left Egypt whining about their meat pots back in slavery. Did you catch the GOVERNMENT PARALLEL there? Give them food to satisfy their tastes and they'll remain your slaves! Huh! Whodathunk!
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News Item9/19/13 3:53 PM
Anne | The Wild West  Find all comments by Anne
Lots of jars, indeed! We freeze and smoke elk, deer and fish and buy milk at the store. "Well, not everyone has access to hunting or fishing" is a sorry excuse. Move where you have access or figure it out; it really isn't difficult or expensive. You might be surprised what a rancher/farmer would trade for good work! We've done it! My kids know what hotdogs are; I love ice cream and potato chips; I rue the day I may not have access to a Coke. However, these are expenses to both the wallet and body we greatly limit.

In all, the health debate often forgoes God's grace. We have done mission work where we have watched people pray for God to bless food they dug out of a landfill. While it is our duty to treat our bodies as best we can, circumstances allowed by God may mean I pray "Bless this food" over a bowl of rice. But any government food program drives people to develop a terribly unhealthy diet and in our country there is sorry little excuse for figuring out a way to eat real food.

"It hasn’t kept up with our new necessities, it hasn’t kept up with new ideas of what our basic needs are...." What a line of bull! Jim, where is your biblical worldview? God was VERY clear about our needs being taken care of in Mathew 6! What on earth is this idiot referring to? Is

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News Item9/19/13 2:16 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Why, Anne, you have a green thumb! I bet you have a lot of Mason jars? What do you do for meat and milk, something that is necessary for the healthy raising of children?
Arloc Sherman, a senior researcher with the Center for Budget and Policy Priorities wrote:
The fact that other basic needs have increased in cost more rapidly than food is one reason why the old poverty line is out-of-date and, in fact, is too low: It hasn’t kept up with our new necessities, it hasn’t kept up with new ideas of what our basic needs are....
And the line doesn’t just omit key expenses — because it looks at a family’s before-tax cash income, it also ignores important sources of non-cash income for poor people such as the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP, or food stamps) and the Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC). If the poverty guidelines don’t incorporate income from benefits, it’s hard to measure if these benefits programs are doing their job and lifting people out of poverty....
excerpt from, Why is the Federal Poverty Line So Far Off?

I can guarantee you farmers don't want food stamps cut.

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News Item9/19/13 1:50 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
Since the DofAg actively recruits even employed people to get SNAP cards (not stamps), rather than wait around passively for applicants, statistics like these are worthless as a poverty statistic because of Conflict of Interest. And poverty, being a subjective notion, can't be measured objectively anyway, for arbitrary choices about method & data must be made, & worse, he who pays the piper (i.e., the people who study the issue) calls the tune.

This is not from a "Right Wing" periodical:
Food Stamps Ads

Note that G.W. Bush began the recruitment campaign, but it is continued under the current Admin, which is even more Progressive.

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News Item9/19/13 1:04 PM
penny  Find all comments by penny
Anne, that's terrific. great news!
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News Item9/19/13 11:25 AM
Anne | The Wild West  Find all comments by Anne
Jim, we have less than an acre of land and produce enough food for not just our family of six, soon to be seven, but have enough to give away to some families in our town. We use it to barter for wheat berries and STILL have enough for canning which keeps us stocked through the winter. It's work but people have been doing it for, oh, more than six thousand years with pretty good success. Too much for acreage? You can grow an enormous amount of food in an apartment - we've done that as poor college students. Didn't buy salad or veggies for three years doing that.
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News Item9/18/13 7:58 PM
SF from Tx  Find all comments by SF from Tx
Of course you CA farm and feed a family on less then 80 acres! The Derveas family does it on less then an acre. Google them.
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News Item9/18/13 7:02 PM
penny  Find all comments by penny
a backyard can do a lot of feeding if done well!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nX7J8-VTG08

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News Item9/18/13 6:53 PM
Chris Frost | Indiana  Find all comments by Chris Frost
I would think you could feed a family on far less than 80 acres.
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News Item9/18/13 2:02 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
jpw, the homestead act became ineffective since the early 20th of century, The land then was in eastern Colorado. Try to grow enough food for a family on 160 acres. It is a pity that Catholics are more interested in this problem than Protestants, NATIONAL SHAME AND PAIN: U.S. Homes on food stamps outnumber ALL homes in northeast U.S. (Wow! is this a Romish site)

By the way, jpw, Nebraska farm land averages $11,000 an acre, gimme the money to buy 80 acres, which should be enough to support a good size family? -- and I'll just retire happy! See, Despite Drop in Commodity Prices, Farmland Values Rise

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News Item9/18/13 9:26 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
The news says:
"(According to the Census Bureau, in the second quarter of 2013, there were 20,618,000 households in the Northeast United States, including 13,021 households that owned their residence and 7,597 that rented."

That leaves over 20 million out of less than 21 million that neither own nor rent. Writer is bad at statistics, I guess.

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News Item9/18/13 9:14 AM
Chris Frost | Indiana  Find all comments by Chris Frost
It is not for lack of food that this issue exists.
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News Item9/18/13 8:28 AM
jpw  Find all comments by jpw
you know, we could open the land, get young people some land property and not force taxes on them, forego ordinances that prevent someone from developing their property for food... they might do just fine. that's how the country was built... nah, just keep them on gms and dependent.
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