members, click to sign in..

5,782 active users!!Bandwidth
TUESDAY
SEP 16, 2014
Home
NewsSITE
Events & Blogs
New Audio & Video
BroadcastersNew Stuff!
Local Church Finder
Live Webcasts
Sermons by Bible
Sermons by Topic
Sermons by Speaker
Sermons by Date
Staff Picks
CommentsALL -6 sec
Top Sermons
VideosPDFs
Daily Log
PhotosNew Stuff!
StoresNew Stuff!
Online Bible
Hymnal
Daily Reading
Our Services
Submit Sermon
Members Only

 
RELIGION, CURRENT EVENTS, TECHNOLOGY Subscribe to the breaking newsWhat is RSS?
FRONT PAGE  |  9/16/2014
SATURDAY, SEP 14, 2013  |  16 comments
Should Christians abandon state marriage?

Government doesn’t belong in the marriage business.

That’s what a chorus of prominent libertarian, conservative and Catholic voices have been saying for some time. They argue that there’s no good reason for the state to regulate marriage and predict that making marriage a purely private affair will bring a blissful end to the same-sex marriage debate.

If the state isn’t defining marriage, it can’t redefine it either, they reason.

That sounds good to some, but privatizing marriage would make matters worse, say experts in law and family policy. Marriage is a fundamental public institution that demands a state role, they say, warning that private marriage would jeopardize children and give marriage the same status as alternatives like polygamy. ...


CLICK HERE to Read Entire Article
www.wnd.com

Basics of Courtship #1
|  START  |  Recommended sermons | more..
•  God's View of Homosexuality, 1 • Pastor John MacArthur | 8/8/2010
•  The Bible and Homosexuality • Dr. Stephen Jones | 4/9/2007
•  Marriages MADE in Heaven! • Dr. John Barnett | 9/8/2002
•  The Problem of Sodom • Dr. James White | 5/8/2011

   09/08/14  |  17 States Ask US Supreme Court to Rule on Same-Sex Marriage • 10 comments
   08/29/14  |  Reagan-nominated judge: 'Gay'-marriage bans fueled by... • 5 comments
   08/22/14  |  Supreme Court Orders Stay on Virginia Gay Marriage • 5 comments
   08/21/14  |  Southern Baptist Leaders: Christians Should Make Themselves... • 5 comments
   08/20/14  |  Want a Successful Marriage? More People at Your Wedding a Good... • 2 comments
MORE RELATED ( MARRIAGE ) NEWS | MORE..
   09/14/14  |  Islamic State claims beheading of British hostage: SITE • 5 comments
   09/14/14  |  Scottish independence campaign lead before vote - ICM poll • 21 comments
   09/14/14  |  Atheist Bill Maher Defends Christians as Host Charlie Rose... • 11 comments
   09/12/14  |  6 billion smartphones in use by 2020 • 8 comments
   09/12/14  |  Former First Minister Ian Paisley has died aged 88 • 29 comments
OTHER CHOICE NEWS | MORE..
   06/02/14  |  A Letter to SermonAudio From a Missionary to Haiti • 10 comments
   02/07/14  |  Bringing the Gospel of John to Every Home in Austin, TX • 31 comments
   01/07/14  |  SermonAudio Partners with RFC for the 2014 Family Conference at... • 1 comments
   01/01/14  |  Happy New Year from SermonAudio! • 29 comments
   12/10/13  |  SermonAudio Broadcaster Loses Historic Church Building To Fire • 3 comments
OTHER CHOICE NEWS | MORE..
   09/16/14  |  Does this Flood theory blow Bill Nye’s attack on creation out of...
   09/16/14  |  Harvest Bible Chapel sorry for church discipline • 1 comments
   09/16/14  |  Mood-Altering Drug in the Water Supply? • 7 comments
   09/16/14  |  ISIS 'Won't Be Afraid To Put A Bomb In Lower Manhattan' • 3 comments
   09/16/14  |  Pastor Gets Jail Time for Noisy Church • 7 comments
OTHER RECENT NEWS | MORE..

COMMENTS | show all | add new  
    Sorting Order:  
· Page 1 ·  Found: 16 user comment(s)
News Item9/17/13 2:07 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
So, what if the Social Security is Biblical? Neither is the U.S., it is a secular country. State marriages, can or cannot be recognized by churches, though I would think mine does, If a man and woman are living together...(well that is a far as need to go, there married, as far as I'm concerned and the state should enforce laws to protect children and spouses in such unions), but if they have been formally married by a governmental agency, and made the necessary pledges, then they are married, and should be recognized as such by churches.

By the way, some churches are closely linked to commercialism and politics, While the Scientologists and Mormons are well-known abusers of their tax-exempt status, one shouldn't forget the Romish Church either, e.g., Is the Vatican an Evil Organization?.

Of course Christians should be married in a Christian Church, in fact if that is going to be the standard, the above mentioned, Roman Catholics, Mormons and Jehovah Witnesses ((maybe HTML)PDF) should also be remarried in a Christian Church?

16

News Item9/16/13 9:13 PM
Thomas the Doubter | Ohio  Find all comments by Thomas the Doubter
John, if these churches are "part of gods plan" will he not provide the tax money for them, or does that only happen in the bible. Just wondering....
15

News Item9/16/13 7:41 AM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Thomas the Doubter wrote:
John, what makes you think that these "churches" are necessary? Do you believe that god is unable to provide for them? Do you know what you believe, or do you just parrot what others tell you?
Dolt
I was referring to rural Baptist Churches in the country that are small. Small country Baptist Churches don't have enough revenue from their members to pay taxes if their tax exempt status was withdrawn.
14

News Item9/16/13 6:48 AM
Thomas the Doubter | Ohio  Find all comments by Thomas the Doubter
[Removed by Moderator Alpha]
13

News Item9/16/13 4:48 AM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Thomas the Doubter wrote:
John Y, are you judge and jury on what is insane? Lol
It does not take a rocket scientist to ascertain what kind of statements are insane. And when you make statements like you did at 8:26 AM on 14 Septemeber then there is no other conclusion to make but that those statements are insane. Small churches would not be able to afford to pay taxes if their tax exempt status was withdrawn. That is why I asked you why don't you think before making such insane statements. If you had thought about the small churches not being able to pay taxes if their tax exempt status was withdrawn then you would not have stated that tax exempt status for churches should be gotten rid of.
12

News Item9/15/13 4:23 PM
Thomas the Doubter | Ohio  Find all comments by Thomas the Doubter
John Y, are you judge and jury on what is insane? Lol
11

News Item9/14/13 5:58 PM
Kyle | Tucson  Find all comments by Kyle
"...warning that private marriage would jeopardize children and give marriage the same status as alternatives like polygamy."

Oh, don't worry. That's coming soon anyway.

10

News Item9/14/13 3:20 PM
Disestablishmentarianism  Find all comments by Disestablishmentarianism
Should Christians abandon state marriage?

Should Christians abandon state religion?

For example all the Liberal churches/Denominations who have recently emerged as accepting the rules of Sodom and Gomorrah and in agreement with the satanic perverted western governments.

State run church by the back door?

9

News Item9/14/13 12:11 PM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
Biblical pattern wrote:
God's pattern for marriage. Everything else weighs down the institution.
If you mean Protestants CONTINUING to sell the indulgence of divorce to grow their numbers, I agree. Otherwise please note what happened one generation later. The laws and customs of Labans people did play a role in the Biblical Pattern of My LORDs geneology

Genesis 29:23 And it came to pass in the evening, that he took Leah his daughter, and brought her to him; and he went in unto her.

Genesis 29:24 And Laban gave unto his daughter Leah Zilpah his maid for an handmaid.

Genesis 29:25 And it came to pass, that in the morning, behold, it was Leah: and he said to Laban, What is this thou hast done unto me? did not I serve with thee for Rachel? wherefore then hast thou beguiled me?

Genesis 29:26 And Laban said, It must not be so done in our country, to give the younger before the firstborn.

8

News Item9/14/13 12:01 PM
Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
Fiat Funds wrote:
John Y, if you want to open that can of worms, Social Security isn't Biblical. The care of the Body of Christ was supposed to be covered by church, not the government - it is completely out of it's scope. So maybe the Christian community should refrain from desiring federal funds and instead turn back to the biblical model we see from OT to NT.
Their is no such thing a federal funds. If the government has money they got it from someone else. The money they have is not theirs, the money they take from you for social security (security is an oxymoron in this case) is YOUR money. You don't think we should be good stewards of the resources God has given us and get back to the money He has allowed us to earn? Most churches, and more than likely yours included, do not have a program in place to help those who are "surviving" on social security. I am not defending the system, government should not be there, but they are. We need to stop calling funds the federal government has taken from us, federal money.
7

News Item9/14/13 11:16 AM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Fiat Funds wrote:
John Y, if you want to open that can of worms, Social Security isn't Biblical. The care of the Body of Christ was supposed to be covered by church, not the government - it is completely out of it's scope. So maybe the Christian community shoul refrain from desiring federal funds and instead turn back to the biblical model we see from OT to NT.
I agree that Social Security is not biblical. But remember every worker in the United States is required to put money from their pay check into Social Security.
6

News Item9/14/13 10:27 AM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
Thomas the Doubter wrote:
Cultural Christians should never have invited the state to sanction marriage in the first place. Churches should give up the ridiculous 501c's and such and quit playing both sides of the fence. Do what is right and forget the rest.
While the State might have a role in legal unions, its quite clear that 501c3s can have a negative influence on Church goals
5

News Item9/14/13 9:50 AM
Fiat Funds | Social Security  Find all comments by Fiat Funds
John Y, if you want to open that can of worms, Social Security isn't Biblical. The care of the Body of Christ was supposed to be covered by church, not the government - it is completely out of it's scope. So maybe the Christian community shoul refrain from desiring federal funds and instead turn back to the biblical model we see from OT to NT.
4

News Item9/14/13 8:52 AM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Thomas the Doubter wrote:
Cultural Christians should never have invited the state to sanction marriage in the first place. Churches should give up the ridiculous 501c's and such and quit playing both sides of the fence. Do what is right and forget the rest.
Without a state licensed marriage certificate a woman can't receive Social Security death benefits when her husband pases away. Why don't you think before making such insane statements?
3

News Item9/14/13 8:26 AM
Thomas the Doubter | Ohio  Find all comments by Thomas the Doubter
Cultural Christians should never have invited the state to sanction marriage in the first place. Churches should give up the ridiculous 501c's and such and quit playing both sides of the fence. Do what is right and forget the rest.
2

News Item9/14/13 5:49 AM
Biblical pattern  Find all comments by Biblical pattern
63 And Isaac went out to meditate in the field at the eventide: and he lifted up his eyes, and saw, and, behold, the camels were coming.

64 And Rebekah lifted up her eyes, and when she saw Isaac, she lighted off the camel.

65 For she had said unto the servant, What man is this that walketh in the field to meet us? And the servant had said, It is my master: therefore she took a vail, and covered herself.

66 And the servant told Isaac all things that he had done.

67 And Isaac brought her into his mother Sarah's tent, and took Rebekah, and she became his wife; and he loved her: and Isaac was comforted after his mother's death.

Genesis 24

God's pattern for marriage. Everything else weighs down the institution.

1
There are a total of 16 user comments displayed | add new comment |Subscribe to these comments
Last PostTotal
Pastor Gets Jail Time for Noisy Church
michael hranek from endicott, new york: " didactics i guess what you are saying..."
-3 min 
Why Same-Sex Marriage is Expected to Heat Up This Election...
pennned: " christopher000 '...in 2012, pew found that 29 percent of young white..."
-1 hrs 
Mood-Altering Drug in the Water Supply?
pennned: "great points mike."
-2 hrs 


Testimony at Christmas Dinner
Scott T. Brown
You Will Be Made to Stumble

Matthew
Sunday Service
Hope Baptist Church
Play! | MP3 | RSS


Mark B. Lawless
The Lord's Comforting Rod

Sundry Sermons
Battlefield Baptist Church
Play! | MP3

Pastor Alfred J. Chompff
Why Do We Suffer?

Reformed Bible Church of S. CA
Sunday Service
Play! | MP3

Sponsor:
Ready Made Church Websites for $84.95

Get a prof­ess­ional look­ing church webs­ite today. Pers­onal train­ing incl­ud­ed!
www.baptisthost.net/wordpre..

Sponsor:
Chantry,Quinn,Daniel 2014 Conference

Faith Bible Church Oct 10-12 "The Joy of Worsh­ip"
www.sermonaudio.com

Sponsor:
Ichabod

The Cond­it­ion of Amer­ican Chr­ist­ian­ity in the 21st Cent­ury - A. C. Clayman
www.amazon.com/gp/product/1..

Sermon:
Seek First the Kingdom
Pastor Jonathan Stobbs






                   
My faith has no bed to sleep upon but omnipotency. ... Samuel Rutherford

Las Vegas, NV
  28   DAYS LEFT
Gospel of John
Cities | Local | Personal
MOBILE
iPhone + iPad
Church App
Android
Church App
Kindle + Nook
BlackBerry
Windows Mobile, Nokia
Chromecast TV
ROKU TV
Pebble Smartwatch
Kindle Reader


HELP
Knowledgebase
Broadcasters
Listeners
Q&A
Uploading Sermons
Uploading Videos
Webcasting
Tips & Tricks
YouTube Screencasts

FOLLOW
Weekly Newsletter
Staff Picks Feed
Site Notices New!
RSS | Twitter | Facebook
SERVICES | ALL
Local Church Finder | Info
MP3 Play & Download
Mobile Apps
Podcasting
Video Support
Live Webcasting
Transcription Service
HIFI Option
Business Cards
SOLO | MINI | Domains
Favorites
QR Codes
24x7 Radio Stream
INTEGRATION
Sermon Browser
HTML Codes
WordPress
Twitter
Facebook
Logos | e-Sword
SOAP API

BATCH
Transfer Agent
Protected Podcasts
Upload via Email
Auto-Upload Sermons
Auto-Blog Import
Picasa | FTP | Dropbox
ABOUT US
SermonAudio.com is the largest library of audio sermons from conservative churches and ministries worldwide. All broadcasters must adhere to the Articles of Faith.

Our Services | Testimonials
Broadcast With Us!
Support Us
Advertising | Local Ads
CONTACT
info@sermonaudio.com
Copyright © 2014 SermonAudio.com.