Galatians 6:1 (NKJV) Brethren, if a man is overtaken in any trespass, you who are spiritual restore such a one in a spirit of gentleness, considering yourself lest you also be tempted.
Speaking of the Shepherds (Pastors)
Ezekiel 34:4 The weak you have not strengthened, nor have you healed those who were sick, nor bound up the broken, nor brought back what was driven away, nor sought what was lost; but with force and cruelty you have ruled them. (pretty much the whole chapter)
Matthew 12:20 (KJV----see Isaiah 42:3)20 A bruised reed shall he not break, and smoking flax shall he not quench, till he send forth judgment unto victory.
Frank wrote: Agree Pilgrim! Matthew 18:17 quoted below seems to say that pretty clearly.
Yep, fellow Pilgrim!
Matthew 18:15-17 KJV 15 Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. 16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. 17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.
Is this "pastor" worth 15 cents? There is a proper form of Church discipline:
Matthew 18 15 "And if your brother sins, go and reprove him in private; if he listens to you, you have won your brother. 16 "But if he does not listen to you, take one or two more with you, so that BY THE MOUTH OF TWO OR THREE WITNESSES EVERY FACT MAY BE CONFIRMED. 17 "And if he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax-gatherer.---NASB
It looks like this church "pastor" should go on a sabbatical so, he read the Bible, and see that:
Titus 1 6 namely, if any man be above reproach, the husband of one wife, having children who believe, not accused of dissipation or rebellion. 7 For the overseer must be above reproach as God's steward, not self-willed, not quick-tempered, not addicted to wine, not pugnacious, not fond of sordid gain, 8 but hospitable, loving what is good, sensible, just, devout, self-controlled,---NASB
Christopher, that verse in Timothy is preceded by: "Donâ€™t accept an accusation against an elder unless it is supported by two or three witnesses." (1 Timothy 5:19 HCSB). So there was work going on before an open rebuke. It starts in Matthew 18 - we study this with our kids every day; saves Mama a lot of bickering! It might also do well to balance the times of open rebuke with: "Do not rebuke an older man, but exhort him as a father, younger men as brothers, older women as mothers, and with all propriety, the younger women as sisters. Donâ€™t accept an accusation against an elder unless it is supported by two or three witnesses." (1 Timothy 5:1, 2, 19 HCSB)
My husband watched the video, I have not. His comment was, "I sure heard a lot of "I" in that speech." He wasn't remotely impressed. He also made the comment that if a Pastor had spoken to me in front of the congregation in such a manner as he spoke to one woman, we would have left. There are obviously times for open rebuke but that's usually under some strenuous church discipline.