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FRONT PAGE  |  5/28/2015
MONDAY, JUL 22, 2013  |  20 comments
Jimmy Carter Defends Snowden, Says U.S. Has No "Functioning Democracy"

"America does not have a functioning democracy at this point in time," former President Jimmy Carter (shown) said this week, according to a report in the German newspaper, Der Spiegel. Carter was quoted as having made that remark at a closed-door meeting of Atlantic Bridge, a research and education organization supporting cooperation between the United States and Great Britain on political, economic and defense issues. The former President reportedly said the National Security Agency's invasion of privacy has gone too far, as he defended that actions of Edward Snowden, the American now seeking asylum in Russia after leaking classified documents revealing the massive NSA interception of communications between citizens and among government officials worldwide.

The English translation of Carter's remarks was published in the online news source, Inquisitr.com. No American media outlets reported on the ...


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News Item7/27/13 3:56 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
As far as I know the Constitution only protects the U.S. postal service sealed letters. The Supreme Court hasn't even ruled on that. As far as encryption goes, it's entirely free and is part of or easily added to mail programs such Mozilla's "Thunderbird," Remember, The GNU Privacy Guard.

My father worked for Cushman Motor Works for nearly a half century. He worked there during WWII and he wouldn't even talk about the war work even with my mother, things were on a need to know basis. So, perhaps not only did I get my thoughts about "Loose lips, sink ships," from him but even the idea there was no such thing as private communication, and this was way before there was an viable Internet and even computer Bulletin Boards. So, everything I say and write, should be printable on the front page of the Lincoln Journal & Star newspaper. I least I hope so.

But as I said encryption is so easy and that which can't even be broken by a super computer that Coca Cola could send its secret formula to anyone in the world without fear of it being stolen. By the way, the 1.4 or whatever of GPG has been upgraded just a couple of days ago, so I read and there are commercial encryption programs as well, PGP?

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News Item7/27/13 3:35 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Jim Lincoln wrote:
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Mike of New York, my point is if you're using the Internet or perhaps even a telephone you have no privacy. This has been true for decades. If you want privacy encrypt what you say or write. There's even some legitimate reasons such as Coca Cola, might want to send changes to various bottling plants to change their brew, but human carrier could do that.
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Sad that you see no difference between Coke and the "security" people, and their reasons for spying. One is, as you say, about changing the brew, the other, constitutionally unauthorized spying, no matter what dimwit Republicans and corrupt Democrats say. Not that it matters if you have nothing to hide, right, Jim?
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News Item7/27/13 3:26 PM
Key Point  Find all comments by Key Point
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Amyraldism (Four point Calvinism) exactly the same people are saved or lost as in 5-point Calvinism but of course this is Biblical while limited atonement isn't
Jim. If you read the history of the French protestant church, the result of Amraldianism was that Arminianism followed and look at what is left today!!! Very little!!!

Don't plant the seeds of distruction and Arminianism and heresy in your church.

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News Item7/27/13 3:07 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
You need to hear about what Calvin deduced but didn't get directly from the Bible in:
Wikipedia wrote:
Simply stated, Amyraldism holds that God has provided Christ's atonement for all alike, but seeing that none would believe on their own, he then elected those whom he will bring to faith in Christ, thereby preserving the Calvinist doctrine of unconditional election.
excerpt from, Amyraldism (Four point Calvinism) exactly the same people are saved or lost as in 5-point Calvinism but of course this is Biblical while limited atonement isn't.

I would suggest you watch Calvin's Wayward Children. Calvin did not write inspired literature, he was not the 14th Apostle! He was a great and important theologian, who had a few errors.

Mike of New York, my point is if you're using the Internet or perhaps even a telephone you have no privacy. This has been true for decades. If you want privacy encrypt what you say or write. There's even some legitimate reasons such as Coca Cola, might want to send changes to various bottling plants to change their brew, but human carrier could do that.

So Jimmy go back to pea

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News Item7/24/13 8:52 AM
Key Point  Find all comments by Key Point
Jim Lincoln wrote:
What's the problem?
Jim Lincoln.
You need to read and digest this truth to become complete. The Inconsistency of Four-Point Calvinism
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News Item7/23/13 11:56 PM
Mr b  Find all comments by Mr b
Jimmy carter...... What's that saying? I think it's, even a stopwatch is right twice a day??
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News Item7/23/13 7:22 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Jim Lincoln wrote:
What's the problem? The U.S. Postal Service can't give out any contents of a letter without a court order?
You never had any privacy on the Web! e.g.,
This is an article from 9 years ago!
I'm sure this anti-Semitic, bigoted peanut farmer even knows about Google might kick you off their mail system if you use it a lot, and no doubt you'll end up on someone's watch list if you use it a lot also. But, I seriously doubt when it's done right even a super-computer won't be able to break the code --you know-- when you send your favorite moonshine recipes to your franchises around the country.
Jimmy can send his latest anti-Semitic remarks out until they get published, e.g., not his latest, but
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Now that you've gone the sidetrack route, what's your take on what Jimmy said about Snowden and privacy?
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News Item7/23/13 3:14 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
What's the problem? The U.S. Postal Service can't give out any contents of a letter without a court order?

You never had any privacy on the Web! e.g.,

John Pallatto wrote:
A Google executive told attendees at a conference on technology and privacy that scanning messages to contextually link electronic advertising is a fair and necessary tradeoff for the company's free Gmail service.
excerpt from, Google Defends Scanning E-Mail for Ad Links. This is an article from 9 years ago!

I'm sure this anti-Semitic, bigoted peanut farmer even knows about Pretty Good Privacy. Google might kick you off their mail system if you use it a lot, and no doubt you'll end up on someone's watch list if you use it a lot also. But, I seriously doubt when it's done right even a super-computer won't be able to break the code --you know-- when you send your favorite moonshine recipes to your franchises around the country.

Jimmy can send his latest anti-Semitic remarks out until they get published, e.g., not his latest, but CNN&Jimmy

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News Item7/22/13 10:57 PM
jpw  Find all comments by jpw
Mike -- it was under the Bush administration, with the very emotional support of conservative evangelicals that the patriot act came to be. its our baby, as well as the diaspora of believers in the ME.... abortion has been supported by liberal theology, but this other stuff, its ours......unfortunately. because we put God's name on it.... John Mac said it was God's will, this goes way back before the present admin.

the talk has changed because conservatives are uncomfortable with Darwinian socialists having nearly god like powers, but I remember the talk being quite cavalier even just a few years back. Romney ran supporting the end of rght to fair trial, NDAA thing...

not trying to play the same song over and over... point is that we have put Christ's name on things that are evil, and now living under the consequences.. the resolution of participating in end time Babylon is to come out of it and repent not drink fluoride and forget everything we've been about for years.

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News Item7/22/13 8:13 PM
Andrew | Australia  Contact via emailFind all comments by Andrew
El Dorado: you hit the nail on the head! Yes, the USA is the last manifestation of Babylon the Great; and, unfortunately, Australia is one of its confederate offspring, another 'whelp' of Mother England. We're all going down. Come, Lord Jesus, Come!
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News Item7/22/13 5:41 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
El Dorado wrote:
Get out of that cursed place while you still can start over somewhere else.
Astonishing! That on your very first post you command all American Christians to depart the country and start up somewhere else.

Eh?

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News Item7/22/13 5:31 PM
El Dorado  Find all comments by El Dorado
I never thought I would agree with a Marxist about anything, but today I have been proven wrong. The example of Snoden shows how close the globalist one world antichrist Marxist control government is to being fully implemented, and basically no country anymore has the guts to stand against it "to make war with him". I am convinced that the USA is Babylon the great which shall fall and all the merchants of the earth will wail for her upon seeing her smoke as is prophesied. Get out of that cursed place while you still can start over somewhere else.
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News Item7/22/13 3:23 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
jpw wrote:
all this talk about the "liberals", when the network that Sndn reveals was created by the "conservatives" (and the liberals).... (and honestly I don't hear any outcry from evangelicals, it must be good! ain't it great to have liberals and conservatives in a united cause to read the minds of the world, for our "safety"?)
Jimmy Carter called it right. and the republican party is all too glad to have surveillance the world over. so go ahead Christians, give your allegiance to it!
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Sound like you think Cheney, Boehner, and Graham are conservatives. They aren't, they are Republicans. No genuine constitutional conservative would support the NSA, nor the surrendering of liberty for feeble promises of security.
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News Item7/22/13 12:44 PM
jpw  Find all comments by jpw
all this talk about the "liberals", when the network that Sndn reveals was created by the "conservatives" (and the liberals).... (and honestly I don't hear any outcry from evangelicals, it must be good! ain't it great to have liberals and conservatives in a united cause to read the minds of the world, for our "safety"?)

Jimmy Carter called it right. and the republican party is all too glad to have surveillance the world over. so go ahead Christians, give your allegiance to it! the big unstoppable behometh. be prepared to give homage. don't worry, Jim will you remind you the world belongs to Nero -- so give him what he wants.... even your soul.

what was that childhood song, "santa claus is coming to town"

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News Item7/22/13 10:07 AM
Ted  Find all comments by Ted
1517 wrote:
Ted,
The main problem in your post is that these evil liberals are VOTED in by Americans. They cannot assume their positions, they must win enough votes. That is a Democracy. Unfortunately enough Americans are complicit, willfully ignorant, or just ignorant.
That's why I said - "to dictate to and influence government of a people who have become apathetic, indifferent and gullible."

The people who voted Democrat seem to be ignorant or as you say complicit of the Liberal socio-political philosophy and its outworking in society. EG. Many Democrats seem to be convinced that we should not "discriminate" against the poor little homosexual and give "rights" to the woman who wants to abort her child. = Ignorance? Complicity? Apathetic? - Whereas they think they are being good and decent people.

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News Item7/22/13 9:54 AM
1517  Find all comments by 1517
Ted,
The main problem in your post is that these evil liberals are VOTED in by Americans. They cannot assume their positions, they must win enough votes. That is a Democracy. Unfortunately enough Americans are complicit, willfully ignorant, or just ignorant.
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News Item7/22/13 9:45 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
From the news:
"Carter's assessment of the Snowden affair is in sharp contrast with the Obama administration's position and with members of Congress including House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) and Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, who have accused Snowden of treason. Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) has said Snowden should be hunted "to the ends of the earth" and former Vice President Dick Cheney has called the systems analyst a "traitor."

When we criticize Carter for not knowing this is not a democracy, we should remember two things:

1)Carter is right in this case.

2)These others are ignorants or corrupted who do not know, or care what the Constitution's definition of treason is, but toss it into the air anyway. We should never listen to people who hate the law of the land, whether Republican of Democrat.

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News Item7/22/13 9:03 AM
Ted  Find all comments by Ted
It is Democrats such as Jimmy Carter etc who has killed democracy in America.

Especially evil Liberals like Carter Obama and Clinton.

Dictionary.
"Democracy" - government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system"
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ps.
Liberalism. Insidious creeping corruption exercised by introducing Liberals into the administration and using them to dictate to and influence government of a people who have become apathetic, indifferent and gullible.

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News Item7/22/13 8:55 AM
Chris Frost | Indiana  Find all comments by Chris Frost
America has NEVER been a democracy. We are a representative republic. If he doesn't know the difference, that would explain why he was such a terrible president.
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News Item7/22/13 12:26 AM
PS | USA  Find all comments by PS
For once your right on Jimmy!
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