As legislators and other government officials promote âgayâ friendly laws, they are unwittingly laying the foundation for special protections for pedophiles, including the right to work with children, family advocates warn.
Linda Harvey of Mission America said the push for equal rights for pedophiles will become more common as LGBT groups continue to assert themselves.
âItâs all part of a plan to introduce sex to children at younger and younger ages to convince them that normal friendship is actually a sexual attraction,â she said.
In 1973, the American Psychiatric Association declassified homosexuality from its list of mental disorders after intense lobbying by homosexual-rights groups....
Unprofitable Servant wrote: we have a God given responsibility to let our light shine into the darkness of this evil world. I am just not sure that men doing that which is right in their own eyes and following the imagination of their wicked hearts is a fault of the bride of Christ.
Thankyou for your reply. Your post reminded me that the light/dark picture of the world with Christians, is like the old "negatives" of photographs. - Without the light we could not discern the dark. Without the dark we could not discern the light part.
John pointed out what our response was to be to be and that is, Disassociate with False Teachers You might want to at least read the summaries to these sermons.
How are suppose to behave to outsiders?
Colossians 4 5 Conduct yourselves with wisdom toward outsiders, making the most of the opportunity. 6 Let your speech always be with grace, seasoned, as it were, with salt, so that you may know how you should respond to each person.---NASB. See JFB commentary for these verses.
Great comments by all! How does a Pilgrim conduct his affairs in this lost world!
Yes this subject is thought provoking and divisive. I am positionally completely perfect in Godâs eyes (Ro. 8:1) and yet I am the chiefest sinner that has ever lived (Ro. 7). And when I donât repent, then my heavenly Father will punish me as per Hebrews 12:6-8, 10. When the world notices my hypocrisy, then it can have a negative effect on them (1 Peter 2:12) ; however when they notice my obedience to Christ, this can also have a negative effect on them. (2 Cor. 2:14-17) However, we are admonished to keep the body of Christ unblemished (be ye perfect) and sin should always be addressed; especially doctrinal errors. For instance Christ said to take the fellow before the church and if he didnât repent to treat him as an unsaved person. (Mt.18:17) Paul said the same thing with the fellow who was sleeping with his step-mother (1 Cor. 1:32) I personally will argue much more with my brothers and sisters then with the lost. I am critical of the genuine church, but much more of the counterfeit church. The one I love and the other I hate. I hate sin, from wherever it comes, but I really hate it when someone says God okays it or if the unregenerate is masquerading as if they are saved.
Thank you for your comment and emphasis for the church to be a positive influence in this world by obeying the commandments of Holy Scripture. My question, and maybe you were addressing that, was due to the fact that earlier in this thread it was implied by more than one poster that the reason we have such evil in this world was due to a failure by the church. I fail to see why the unregenerate acting like they are unregenerate is the fault of the body of Christ. My Bible still says, if I may paraphrase, broad is way and wide is the gate the leads to destruction and MANY walk in that way and narrow is the way and straight is the gate that leads to life and FEW walk in that way. Thank you for pointing out the need for the church to be a light in the midst of a crooked and perverse world and reminding me that I neglected that emphasis. I could not agree more, we have to be the salt of the earth, men are to see our good works and glorify God, we have a God given responsibility to let our light shine into the darkness of this evil world. I am just not sure that men doing that which is right in their own eyes and following the imagination of their wicked hearts is a fault of the bride of Christ.
Unprofitable Servant wrote: Where in the New Testament do we find a rebuke of Christians for the actions of the unregenerate
Your question seeks the negative rather than the positive US. The advice/command given to the church in the NT is the positive - which as we know can be judged as where the church fails today. The "actions of the unregenerate" being the sinful ways of man to be countered.
EG: Matthew 5:16 Even so let your light shine before men... Matthew 5:39-42 but I say unto you, resist not him that is evil: but whosoever smiteth thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also... Matthew 5:44 but I say unto you, love your enemies, and pray for them that persecute you; Matthew 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged. Matthew 7:12 All things therefore whatsoever ye would that men should do unto you, even so do ye also unto them... Matthew 15:4 For God said, Honor thy father and thy mother: Matthew 16:24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man would come after me, let him deny himself ...
These are church "witness" commands to demonstrate to the better way to the unsaved, rather than their alternative ie the wicked ways. They are not rebukes to the church, but they are the alternative to that displayed by the unregen's.
Unprofitable Servant wrote: Where in the New Testament do we find a rebuke of Christians for the actions of the unregenerate in the land in which they lived. They lived in a pretty wicked time. Yet, no rebuke, that I can see of them for the sinfulness of those who knew not God. Yet somehow the church is to blame for the corruptions of the society in which we live?
I reckon you got that biblically accurate, US. You would have thought if that was the case, then the letters dictated to the apostle John by Jesus would have contained some instruction; but no, the only rebukes the church received were internal.
As for going to the top of the list, I think Frank will have something to say about that.
I totally get what your saying U.S. I don't know if the church is to blame being that people by nature do not want God, but I also see a church that's alive but dead, these charismatic name it and claim it churches, with messages preached to stir and excite to feel good about what Jesus can do through and to you and how much power we as Christians have, meanwhile it's those same people hooting and hollering and running and rolling around supposedly on fire for God at every altar call every wed. And sun. There's division , gossip , basically the same stuff that's in the world is found in our churches and the churches are not full. When people see that the also figure that they do not need God because the church today is parallel to the world . People need to see something real . But then again there are people who have seen authentic real christianity and still walked away. People really just don't think they need God and our govt reenforces that mantra daily. I guess it's a combination of things
I have been giving this thread some meditation. So, I am asking those who believe differently than what I am about to say for enlightenment. I will preface my remarks with two statements. God knows we as Christians need to seek God face and mourn over our inward corruptions and hardness of heart. God knows we need to be more ardent in our pursuit of holiness and lay aside all filthiness of flesh and spirit in the fear of God. Put me at the top of that list. Secondly, although we are a kingdom of priest and kings we are not the unique nation of Israel, a specific people, in a specific geographical spot, who God gave rules and regulations and dietary restrictions and whose obedience had effects on the weather and how abundantly their crops grew and whether their wealth increased or diminished. We, as the body of Christ, are scattered about the face of the earth and there is no nation that fit the governance of Isaiah 9:7.
Where in the New Testament do we find a rebuke of Christians for the actions of the unregenerate in the land in which they lived. They lived in a pretty wicked time. Yet, no rebuke, that I can see of them for the sinfulness of those who knew not God. Yet somehow the church is to blame for the corruptions of the society in which we live?
roman's1:16 wrote: I agree glad. but i think its also a mistake to pretend that america hasn't mattered, or that in the entire world she stood for rightousness and freedom. that's worth something. do you value the freedom you've had? Do.you value the precious Word that flowed freely about this land? It came at a price. and it mattered. it still does.
No, America has stood for the pursuit of happiness. This vain dream has ever confused and detracted from the rights to life and liberty.
Though the CHURCH of believers is without stain according to the righteousness of our LORD, the church has a duty to "tear down the high places" and rightly divide the Word of God. I agree with all of you brothers, Christ's church does not include the chaff or all professing Christians. This has been edifying.
wrote: Spot on Brother John from Uk! The message has and always will be "REPENT AND BELIEVE THE GOSPEL"
Ah yes, until the end of the world, as our Saviour said.
Mark 1:14-15 KJV 14 Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, 15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
Matthew 28:18-20 KJV 18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. 19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
perfectly righteous church wrote: Calling them to repent would be like preaching to the choir.
The sinner came into a position of perfect righteousness through faith in Christ and repentance toward God. They began in repentance, continue in repentance, and will be still in a state of repentance when they arrive in glory. Only then will it cease.
But to call upon the ungodly to stop being ungodly, except it be by the power and indwelling of the Spirit through the gospel of Jesus Christ, is a fruitless exercise.
Frank wrote: John UK p.s. "The Preaching of The Gospel takes first priority." Yes it does unless someone is into Kingdom Now or dominionism.