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THURSDAY, JUL 18, 2013  |  21 comments
Church Sign Accuses Zimmerman Jury Of 'White Racism'

Pastor Michael R. Jordan is outraged about the Trayvon Martin case and "not guilty" verdict for George Zimmerman, and he's pointing the finger at the jury with two bold signs that accuse them of "white racism." Reactions to the sign have been mixed, with the church's predominantly black neighborhood largely supportive despite the barrage of negative comments that have been directed at Jordan online.

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News Item7/23/13 11:51 PM
Mr b  Find all comments by Mr b
There is another class of coloured people who make a business of keeping the troubles. The wrongs and the hardships of the negro race before the public, having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into a settled habit of advertising their wrongs partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the negro to lose his grievances because they do not want to lose their jobs - booker t. Washington .... Now ... Who's that sound like to you? Sharpton, Jackson , obama , holder,???? Hmmmm.
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News Item7/21/13 7:24 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
UPS Wrote:
African-Americans, as many choose to be called, are like any other news item, getting media coverage. Mainly when something bad is happening. How many thousands of planes make safe landings day in and day out, but it is the crashes we read about in the news. Most blacks are responsible families, they go to work, they pay their bills, they keep their property looking nice, they go to church, they rear their children, etc. but they don't make the news."

Thanks, and great points. All so very clearly simple, rational, and true, but the foolish and hate filled just can't see through the fog.

Thanks for the support, Mr B-bop.

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News Item7/20/13 9:42 AM
Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
Thanks for your comment Christopher. Mr b, I believe Christopher is wondering why no one is jumping on the Dylan from Oregon prideful and racist comment. I guess he is entitled to his opinion but thoughts like his are one of the reasons we have race problems in our society. Does he not see the hypocrisy in his own life of which he needs to repent? African-Americans, as many choose to be called, are like any other news item, getting media coverage. Mainly when something bad is happening. How many thousands of planes make safe landings day in and day out, but it is the crashes we read about in the news. Most blacks are responsible families, they go to work, they pay their bills, they keep their property looking nice, they go to church, they rear their children, etc. but they don't make the news. So, Dylan just needs to stop making those who pretend to represent the black community a reflection of who they really are. Do you want all whites to be painted with the broad brush of being Nancy Pelosi or Harry Reid? We need to get past stereotypes and racial prejudices, comments like his don't help.
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News Item7/20/13 8:50 AM
Mr b  Find all comments by Mr b
They can't beat you down chris. You told the truth. Not one thing wrong with your post.
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News Item7/20/13 8:05 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
I'm surprised that nobody commented on that post. I would have been given a healthy beatdown...ha-ha.
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News Item7/19/13 7:00 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Oh boy, Dylan...I understand what you are trying to say but you really can't put all blacks into the same catagory, just like you can't whites, or whoever. There are groups of blacks and whites who are just raised around such hatred and lies that they grow up to be reflections of the same. There are certainly educated blacks and whites who are filled with hatred, but I think most of the others are racially divided due to a lack of education and/or intelligence.
When we have situations like the Martin/Zimmerman case, the media digs up and interviews the worst offenders and I think that can give the impression that all blacks are the same in attitude and thought; hate filled, white hating racists...not so.
The media has a lot of power, has their own agenda, and thrives on division, eye catching headlines, and attention grabbing interviews. Violence and hatred sells...
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News Item7/18/13 10:04 PM
Dylan | Oregon  Find all comments by Dylan
Most all american blacks disgust me for their demented sickening hypocrisy, along with Roman Catholics and Calvinists.
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News Item7/18/13 8:07 PM
Ricardo | Florida  Find all comments by Ricardo
John 3:16
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News Item7/18/13 3:51 PM
Mr b  Find all comments by Mr b
Do they not know that Zimmerman is not white ? How dumb can they be?? Oh wait... Never mind.
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News Item7/18/13 2:28 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Barry from KY. wrote:
Acutally US there is an entire business built around jury selection. A black female will not see things thru the same cultrual lens as say a white male.
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You're probably correct. A problem arises when "jury of peers" is ignored, and jurors are chosen on the basis of not being remotely connected with the defendant. I once was eliminated from a jury on the basis that I owned a rifle. The defendant had stolen a rifle, therefore it was said I couldn't be impartial. That seems to me like not allowing an auto owner to be juror in an auto theft case, but what do I know?

As far as cultural lens goes, it is, or should be law, not the feelings of men(and their cultural leanings) that determine how the trial proceeds. What is true doesn't change according to culture, even if what is felt does. Jury instructions require dealing in the facts as presented.

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News Item7/18/13 2:19 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Black racism is just as obnoxious as White racism.

Ah, Barry Ky, do you mean that an upper-class black female (one of course with lots of education) won't see things as a white bottom class male who counts on his fingers and can't read. Yes, I think you'd could have an excellent point there.

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News Item7/18/13 2:00 PM
Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
Barry from KY. wrote:
Acutally US there is an entire business built around jury selection. A black female will not see things thru the same cultrual lens as say a white male.
I'm surprised at the speed of the trial. I figured this would go on for sometime.
Thanks for the update
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News Item7/18/13 1:19 PM
Barry from KY. | Northern KY  Find all comments by Barry from KY.
Unprofitable Servant wrote:
Research indicates the all female jury had 4 white, 1 African American, and 1 Mexican-American. Really, does it matter? IF you are basing your decision on the facts of the case does it matter what your racial make up is? Do the facts change because you are white, black or brown? This is same reasoning that states that only blacks can properly represent blacks and only women can properly represent women.
Acutally US there is an entire business built around jury selection. A black female will not see things thru the same cultrual lens as say a white male.

I'm surprised at the speed of the trial. I figured this would go on for sometime.

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News Item7/18/13 12:22 PM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
Christopher000 wrote:
BTW, I don't understand the jurors comment. Travon was almost home so that meant Travon had become the stalker? I must not be understanding it correctly...
His reasoning from 2 pieces of evidence
1) George reported to police that Trayvon fled
2) Trayvon reported to his 19 yr old girlfriend that he was almost home(he lived outside of Georges complex)

His conclusion
Trayvon left the safety of his home and returned to complex to confront Zimmerman

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News Item7/18/13 11:00 AM
Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
Research indicates the all female jury had 4 white, 1 African American, and 1 Mexican-American. Really, does it matter? IF you are basing your decision on the facts of the case does it matter what your racial make up is? Do the facts change because you are white, black or brown? This is same reasoning that states that only blacks can properly represent blacks and only women can properly represent women.
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News Item7/18/13 9:46 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
BTW, I don't understand the jurors comment. Travon was almost home so that meant Travon had become the stalker? I must not be understanding it correctly...
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News Item7/18/13 9:15 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Steve, I haven't seen them for myself, but I have heard it mentioned on talk radio several times as being ine of the arguments against an all white, racist jury. That would make sense anyway, given the situation; having black jurors as well, that is.
Now you have me wondering though and will see what I can find. Limbaugh said it, as well as Hannity so it wasn't like some nobodys filling in for the day, but will check it out later.
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News Item7/18/13 8:51 AM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
Christopher000 wrote:
I suppose it won't be long before someone jumps on and calls me a racist for speaking bluntly, but with facts and accuracy. I have had black girlfriends, a black uncle, and black friends, so let me say ahead of time..."give me a break!"...ha-ha.
Boy, just look at that billboard on the property of a "Christian"church! "Jury supported white racism". I guess the two black jurors think they are whites who hate blacks. Pathetic.
Chris, you have said 2 black jurors a few times now. However, I dont believe that is accurate on the 6 people that mattered. Were there alt jurors that were black? I dont know

btw- An alternate juror did speak out yesterday and presented the following as his reason to support the 'not guilty verdict.'

In the last phone call to the girl, Trayvon said he was home or almost home. In his eyes, that meant at the time of the confrontation, Trayvon was no longer the stalked but the stalker

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News Item7/18/13 8:28 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
I suppose it won't be long before someone jumps on and calls me a racist for speaking bluntly, but with facts and accuracy. I have had black girlfriends, a black uncle, and black friends, so let me say ahead of time..."give me a break!"...ha-ha.

Boy, just look at that billboard on the property of a "Christian"church! "Jury supported white racism". I guess the two black jurors think they are whites who hate blacks. Pathetic.

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News Item7/18/13 8:00 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Such hypocrisy and foolishness. Turn the tables, and say Travon was the neighborhood watchdog; killing Zimmerman.
A white President gets involved and fuels the racism. Then, the white media begins running with the "another black kills a cracker" race fueled story. Then, the KKK puts out a bounty on the black Travon. Then, the white Pastors get on their soap boxes to tell the whites of the US that Travon murdered George because he was white; demanding justice. Then, the KKK continues with their campaign of threats against all blacks, condoning violence and justice by any means necessary. Then, the leaders of the white churches continue to fuel the hatred within their congregations spewing their hatred and widening the racial divide. Then, the whites riot, all over the US...beating up blacks, punching black grannies through car windows, burning and looting black businesses, and violently protesting.

How would this go down? Just like it is now with the situation reversed? Would nobody be talking about the whites saying and doing such horrible things? No, we would probably end up in a civil war...whites against blacks if the whites were guilty of what the other has done and is doing and saying at this very moment.
Such a double standard...do as I say, not as I do.

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