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SUNDAY, JUL 14, 2013  |  9 comments
LGBT group finds acceptance at Fuller Theological Seminary

Fuller's stance has created ripples in the larger world of Christian colleges and seminaries, where a growing number of gay evangelical students are asserting their dual identities with underground clubs and nascent political activism. Last year, for example, a group called the Biola Queer Underground was quashed by Biola University, a small, conservative Christian school in nearby Orange County.

This fall, the LGBT group plans on staging rallies to combat the Biola's longstanding policy on homosexuality — that sexual relationships are reserved for heterosexual marriage — and address what many students call a campus climate of fear and shame.

Some activists have hailed the approach taken by Fuller as an important step forward for gay rights. Others say it's an empty gesture unmasked by the school's fine print: Students can "come out" but they can't have sex, be politically active or challenge a ...


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Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
F.G., the train has already left the station many years ago. It only had sound doctrine when the original founder and staff were there.

I would suggest to those who think they have a direct line to God, as far as revelation is concerned, to read--"Does God still give revelation today?" besides listening to, Temporary Gifts the Spirit Gave.

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News Item7/15/13 11:49 AM
FG | USA  Contact via emailFind all comments by FG
Some time ago, Daniel Fuller (who was the guru of John Piper)introduced a doctrine of biblical inerrancy that declared the Bible to be inerrant only in areas of spiritual information and not in science, history or the origin of the universe. This doctrine became orthodoxy at Fuller and ultimately undermined the authority of the Bible at Fuller. From there on in it was downhill for that seminary. Apostasy does not stand still, it has motion. So it should not be surprising to see such a departure from sound doctrine and practice and more departures to come in the future from this institution.
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News Item7/14/13 11:51 PM
Nityananda | New York  Find all comments by Nityananda
PS wrote:
The Lord once spoke to me and said dialogue with the snake was Eve's First mistake
For all we know, that could well have been the Holy Spirit. I realize that many subscribers to SermonAudio would object to "God told me..." language and make a big issue of that phrase per se, but I see nothing in your statement that contradicts the spirit of Scripture. In fact, if I may piggyback on your comment, Jesus did not dialogue with Satan while being tempted in the wilderness. He quoted Scriptures in their proper context-- that is how he triumphed over the enemy's lies.
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News Item7/14/13 11:31 PM
PS | USA  Find all comments by PS
The Lord once spoke to me and said dialogue with the snake was Eve's First mistake
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News Item7/14/13 5:11 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
ministry to the lost wrote:
A major denomination ran an article this month in its magazine indicating that their Reformed teaching is actually driving them to this conclusion:
"... the church should change its stance on premarital cohabitation, recognizing that such relationships enable single adults to respond in a responsible way to the times we live in."
The Christian Reformed Church's "Banner" magazine ought to be teaching, not allowing its pages to be used for dialogue when the beliefs promoted are not in keeping with church policy. The editor needs his head examining.
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News Item7/14/13 4:56 PM
ministry to the lost  Find all comments by ministry to the lost
A major denomination ran an article this month in its magazine indicating that their Reformed teaching is actually driving them to this conclusion:

"... the church should change its stance on premarital cohabitation, recognizing that such relationships enable single adults to respond in a responsible way to the times we live in."

Most pastors are grappling with how far to allow their heterosexual single couples to go before they cross that line (handholding, hugging, kissing, 2nd-4th bases). They certainly don't want to shout where the Bible is silent. Fuller's not alone in this area.

They just don't want the greater risk of murder (abortion) on their hands. So at least premarital cohabitation is far more stable than the hook-up culture which has exploded on the scene in the past five years.

The next moral wave seminaries are riding to shore today is homosexuality. Plus, this has the added benefit to them of no risk of pregnancy/abortion.

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News Item7/14/13 4:30 PM
Martin | Texas  Find all comments by Martin
"If your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. and if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell." (Matt. 5:27-30)
"Do not be deceived. Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders. . .will inherit the kingdom of God. And that is what some of you WERE. But you were washed. . ." (1 Cor. 6:11).
"Those who belong to Christ have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires." (Galatians 5:24)
"Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve." (2 Cor. 11:14-15)

I wander if any of these Fuller students advocating a 'liberal' sexual ethic that makes rooms for homosexuals to indulge the desires of their flesh have read these texts lately, and pondered their meaning? What do they think it means to be a "new creation" in Christ, with the "old things" passed away?

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News Item7/14/13 3:46 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Pastor Don Goertzen wrote:
Fuller Seminary in Pasadena, California, was started in 1947 to be the intellectual voice of the New Evangelicals. Some Evangelicals were uncomfortable with the doctrine of separation as taught and practiced by the Evangelicals who had learned first- hand what happens when there is cooperation between the Fundamentalists and the Modernists.

It was better for the Fundamentalist to “go it alone” because of the compromises in doctrine and practice demanded by the larger denominational churches. Yet, this separation was seen as artificial and some intellectuals (can be read: Non-dispensationalists) yearned for dialogue with their liberal intellectual counter- parts.

For the Biblically sensitive person, it is easy to see that the desire to compete with the intellectuals of the world will in a short time infect the intellectuals who see themselves as missionaries. This is the sad story of Fuller Seminary.

excerpt from an commentary by Don, in "A Rock Too Heavy" It's a place you don't send Christians to Don mentions about the sad ending of G. E. Ladd in the same commentary.
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News Item7/14/13 10:12 AM
LGBT snowball  Find all comments by LGBT snowball
Have to embrace them or lose accreditation and government-backed loans and grants. Overlooking the 35 verses against them is now the defacto theological norm.
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