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FRONT PAGE  |  9/2/2015
WEDNESDAY, JUL 3, 2013  |  5 comments  |  1 commentary
Now captains of faith blast Obama

A coalition of faith leaders – ranging from the president of the National Association of Evangelicals to an official for the Church of Scientology – reprimanded President Obama and his health care plan for infringing on the faith of employers by forcing them to provide abortion services to their employees.

“The government has neither a compelling interest nor the appropriate authority to coerce one citizen to fund or facilitate specific lifestyle choices of another,” the group says in a letter to Obama released today.

“If the federal government can force morally opposed individuals to purchase contraception or abortion-causing drugs and devices for a third party, what prevents this or future administrations from forcing other Americans to betray their deeply held convictions?” ...


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Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Quite a rogues' gallery. They should learn The Truth Behind The Church's Purpose. It's not for a political podium, Rendering To Caesar: A Biblical Perspective On Government.
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News Item7/3/13 6:26 PM
Dorcas | USA  Find all comments by Dorcas
Pastor Ralph Ovadal is one who speaks out regularly on these matters and names names.
His church is Pilgrim Covenant Church.
He has a radio program called Heart of the Matter.
Can be found here on Sermon Audio.
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Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
Mike wrote:
If even evil people know how to give good gifts, what is the scriptural basis for them not agreeing to reprimand the president? If we had to wait for some of the pilgims to say anything, we'd hear one of two things.
1) This world is not my home(interpretation, I don't care what the lost do, I'm outa here)
2) Romans 13:1,2. (not 3,4)
1. No, I don’t think that is true. I do care what the lost do, but I care more about the gospel of my Lord and Savior; therefore I don’t acknowledge in any way those who are outside the true faith as possibly being moral. When the ECT and the Manhatten declaration were drafted, that is exactly what the natural consequences of doing that were. So, I would certainly say that Obama was evil, but I wouldn’t sign documents with or appear with those outside the faith to make that point clear. To me that is watering down the church or the gospel. But, please don’t think that Pilgrims don’t speak out.

2. Unsure what your point is?
My thoughts are from 2 Cor. 6:14-18, among others. Christ doesn’t need the help of the unsaved to accomplish His purposes. So, why sign documents with those who reject the gospel?

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News Item7/3/13 2:32 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Frank wrote:
"The letter, released in both English and Spanish, was signed by NAE chief Leith Anderson, Bishop Gary Stevenson of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Bishop Andrew of the Russian Orthodox Autonomous Church of America, Randall Bach of Open Bible Churches, Russell Moore of the Southern Baptist Convention, Susan Taylor of the Church of Scientology, John Ashmen of the Association of Gospel Rescue Missions, Mark Tooley of the Institute on Religious and Democracy, William Estrada of the Home School Legal Defense Association, John Garvey of the Catholic University of America, David Nammo of the Christian Legal Society and dozens more."
And then of course we have the ECT and the Manhatten Declaration. This is what occurs when we enter into moral agreement with heretics.
There is not a Pilgrim on the list.
If even evil people know how to give good gifts, what is the scriptural basis for them not agreeing to reprimand the president? If we had to wait for some of the pilgims to say anything, we'd hear one of two things.

1) This world is not my home(interpretation, I don't care what the lost do, I'm outa here)

2) Romans 13:1,2. (not 3,4)

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News Item7/3/13 1:25 PM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
"The letter, released in both English and Spanish, was signed by NAE chief Leith Anderson, Bishop Gary Stevenson of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Bishop Andrew of the Russian Orthodox Autonomous Church of America, Randall Bach of Open Bible Churches, Russell Moore of the Southern Baptist Convention, Susan Taylor of the Church of Scientology, John Ashmen of the Association of Gospel Rescue Missions, Mark Tooley of the Institute on Religious and Democracy, William Estrada of the Home School Legal Defense Association, John Garvey of the Catholic University of America, David Nammo of the Christian Legal Society and dozens more."

And then of course we have the ECT and the Manhatten Declaration. This is what occurs when we enter into moral agreement with heretics.

There is not a Pilgrim on the list.

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