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THURSDAY, JUN 27, 2013  |  31 comments
NY Times: C. S. Lewis, Evangelical Rock Star
In 2005, Time magazine called C. S. Lewis the “hottest theologian” of the year — 42 years after his death. That same year, a cover story in Christianity Today hailed him as a “superstar.” To this day Lewis, who published the first of his children’s books about “Narnia” in 1950, remains deeply compelling for many evangelicals, more so than for Catholics and mainline Protestants. Why?

Lewis’s remarkable combination of theological simplicity and tweedy British scholarship is no doubt one reason for his appeal. In his famous book “Mere Christianity,” adapted from a series of BBC radio talks during World War II, Lewis laid out a clear assertion of what it meant to be Christian. Molly Worthen, a historian of religion, points out that nearly a century after the Scopes trial, many evangelicals still worry that secular intellectuals regard them as country bumpkins. Christians like Lewis have helped to keep ...


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Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
John Y., you are wrong about Billy G.'s preaching, Billy Graham Believes Catholic Doctrine of Salvation Without Bible, Gospel, or Name of Christ.

Did you mention, if you practice--

The Ex-Catholic Journal wrote:
...These man-made precepts promote a false assurance. “I may be a wicked adulterer and a mafia member, but at least I don’t miss Mass. I’m going to slip in the side door to heaven – purgatory!” God has slightly higher standards: Love Him with all you heart, soul, strength and mind and love your neighbor as yourself (Lk. 10:27). Praise God through Jesus Christ that our salvation is NOT based on what we do, but rather is according to God’s mercy (Tit. 3:5).
excerpt from, The Five Precepts of the Romish Church
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News Item6/28/13 10:23 AM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Protected NameFind all comments by Michael Hranek
reader wrote:
Michael
a. You have worked it out that a writer of "fiction" such as Lewis (and yourself apparently) does not include "all truth" into his work of fiction. Haven't you?
Do you complain about the lack of truth in his fiction???
b. Your complaint as to quote "spiritual discernment" and so called "evangelical" churches needs to be addressed to the Holy Spirit. After all that's His department: John 16:13 ....
"Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come."
Do you complain about His work results?
reader
You might want to reconsider just what you consider "discernment"
some disagreements are merely personal perferences

while others while seeming little are thoroughly poisonous.

Can you tell that there is even such a difference?

Again I would recommend
Laurence Justice's sermon: C.S. Lewis - False Teach
http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=51011184531

In real life personal experience I've encountered (quote) a pastor trained at Saddle Back in the PDMovement as quite expert at covering up and disquising spritual bromethalin

'Good Day'

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News Item6/28/13 10:12 AM
reader  Find all comments by reader
Michael Hranek wrote:
a. The Parable of 2 Little rats
by Michael Hranek

b. Kind of like the level of spiritual discernment in modern day evangelical churches.

Michael
a. You have worked it out that a writer of "fiction" such as Lewis (and yourself apparently) does not include "all truth" into his work of fiction. Haven't you?
Do you complain about the lack of truth in his fiction???

b. Your complaint as to quote "spiritual discernment" and so called "evangelical" churches needs to be addressed to the Holy Spirit. After all that's His department: John 16:13 ....
"Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come."

Do you complain about His work results?

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News Item6/28/13 9:40 AM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Protected NameFind all comments by Michael Hranek
1517 wrote:
Michael Hranek,

My point was that Lewis' writing had truth, not exhaustive or infallible, and a true believer, with discernment, can read them.

The Parable of 2 Little rats
by Michael Hranek

2 little rats were searching for some food. One little rat scampered along through spills of the grain fed to the cows and the scraps of food thrown out by the farmer and his wife when his friend said,

"HEY!" Come and see what I've found.

What is it? I'm not sure exactly but I've been reading through all the ingredients on the lable and Wow! Is it ever loaded with nutrition 99.99% of the tastiest food I've ever found.

So what is this 0.01% bromethalin stuff?

I don't know but there is so little of it that it couldn't possible hurt us, and I bet we can't even taste it.

Kind of like the level of spiritual discernment in modern day evangelical churches.

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News Item6/28/13 9:11 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Michael Hranek wrote:
Mike NY
Are you upset with me because I don't like Lewis and have Scriptural grounds for that dislike?
I'm asking because you don't know me. You don't know how much I've enjoyed books like "The Bravehearted Gospel" by Eric Ludy, "Radical" by David Platt, "EVIDENCE NOT SEEN", by Darlene Diebler Rose (who my family was honored to meet) and Yes, even some works of Christian fiction as well like Francine River's Trilogy "The Mark of the Lion" or Frank Peritti's "The Visitation"
You see for a season while living in Knoxville, TN I had a pastor who taught me "the red pen principle" to never read anyone blindingly but always prayerfully and mark with a red pen those things that stood out as Biblically accurate and good AND likewise mark with a red pen those that were wrong giving the Scripture reference and reason(s) why. btw this was of great benefit to me when RC's seeking to convert me back to the RCC gave pro-Catholic books to read, and likewise with Rick Warren's PDL too.
I'm the least bit not upset with you, Michael. How could you come to that conclusion? Merely because I expressed disagreement? You believe what you believe, so do I. There isn't anything personal in it.

I do "red pen" too. Except it's blue.

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News Item6/28/13 8:55 AM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Protected NameFind all comments by Michael Hranek
Mike wrote:
The superstar application by the NY Times is an invention of theirs, not his, brought about because of a movie based on a work of fiction. Must even obvious fiction be non-fiction to please the righteous? Good luck finding anything to read other than the Bible.
Mike NY
Are you upset with me because I don't like Lewis and have Scriptural grounds for that dislike?

I'm asking because you don't know me. You don't know how much I've enjoyed books like "The Bravehearted Gospel" by Eric Ludy, "Radical" by David Platt, "EVIDENCE NOT SEEN", by Darlene Diebler Rose (who my family was honored to meet) and Yes, even some works of Christian fiction as well like Francine River's Trilogy "The Mark of the Lion" or Frank Peritti's "The Visitation"

You see for a season while living in Knoxville, TN I had a pastor who taught me "the red pen principle" to never read anyone blindingly but always prayerfully and mark with a red pen those things that stood out as Biblically accurate and good AND likewise mark with a red pen those that were wrong giving the Scripture reference and reason(s) why. btw this was of great benefit to me when RC's seeking to convert me back to the RCC gave pro-Catholic books to read, and likewise with Rick Warren's PDL too.

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News Item6/28/13 8:46 AM
1517  Find all comments by 1517
Michael Hranek,
The media makes those comments based of the success of Narnia. My point was that Lewis' writing had truth, not exhaustive or infallible, and a true believer, with discernment, can read them. This DOES NOT mean I embrace is Anglican or RCC inclinations. Besides, his small personal treatise "A grief observed" is raw, honest, and helpful for those who struggle with the loss of a loved one. Likewise, "A problem with pain" helps with understanding evil and pain. His works meet you on a realistic plain with compassion and intellectual honesty, unlike your broad brushing judgments of others posts under the guise of exhortation.
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News Item6/28/13 8:37 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Michael Hranek wrote:
Brother Christopher000
Since this thread is about the world (N.Y. Times) adoring C.S. Lewis as someking of evangelical rock star, the whole WORLD (James 4:4) can love, as apparently Lewis made significant effort in that direction.
---
The superstar application by the NY Times is an invention of theirs, not his, brought about because of a movie based on a work of fiction. Must even obvious fiction be non-fiction to please the righteous? Good luck finding anything to read other than the Bible.
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News Item6/28/13 7:57 AM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Protected NameFind all comments by Michael Hranek
Christopher000 wrote:
Michael H Wrote:
"Didn't watch the clip did you..."
Isn’t it frustrating...never a concern, never a curiosity...never a question...never a glimmer of hope. Aside from the usual statements: Billy Grahm preaches the baptist doctrine
Brother Christopher000
Since this thread is about the world (N.Y. Times) adoring C.S. Lewis as someking of evangelical rock star, the whole WORLD (James 4:4) can love, as apparently Lewis made significant effort in that direction.

I was stunned to hear in Laurence Justice's sermon: C.S. Lewis - False Teach
http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=51011184531

some of the same kind of thoughts and ideas that Billy Graham gave in the YouTube clip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axxlXy6bLH0
that jy apparently didn't bother to watch to see if Billy Graham was actually teaching Baptist doctrine or not, of course in his present state of mind spiritually he made have been too blind to realize what he was hearing.

But isn't that like how so many "evangelicals", catholic, mormons are treating Lewis? They have decided emotionally they like him, after all nothing in his book to convict sinners to REPENT and don't want to be bothered with the facts and evidence of what he really taught.

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News Item6/28/13 7:27 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Michael H Wrote:
"Didn't watch the clip did you..."

Isn’t it frustrating...never a concern, never a curiosity...never a question...never a glimmer of hope. Aside from the usual statements: Billy Grahm preaches the baptist doctrine, the church of Rome embraces Jesus as their Lord and Savior, Luther cannot have err'd, it doesn't matter what church one attends if they embrace Jesus as their Lord and Savior, and I don't participate in the unscriptural parts of the Mass. ...that's it. That's all there ever is. Anything deeper that doesn't qualify for the aforementioned, incessent replies, you disappear, John Yurich. Why? My opinion is that you know the truth, but bury it deep; rationalizing all the way so as not to disrupt your current level of comfort. To love Him is to serve Him. To know the truth is to be set free. Being set free, you would turn and run from the Roman machine, and that's what scares you...the fact that someone might have the nerve to say, "hello" to you in new surroundings.

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News Item6/27/13 10:29 PM
Concerned  Find all comments by Concerned
John Y,
If you even bother to look up the verse I gave you, look this one up also.
Hebrews 5:9.
If you are truly born from above you WILL obey Him and want to please Him or you will be chastened by the Father.
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News Item6/27/13 10:14 PM
Concerned  Find all comments by Concerned
John Y,
You remind me of the proverb 26:12.
Wake up,man!!
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News Item6/27/13 9:37 PM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Protected NameFind all comments by Michael Hranek
John Yurich USA wrote:
I used to watch Graham's Crusades on television and I have seen Graham's son's Crusades on television and Graham preached and his son preaches the Baptist doctrine of salvation that salvation comes only through embracing Jesus as ones Savior.
Didn't watch the clip did you.
Well I quess I will have to respect that is your choice to be ignorant of what Graham said in his own words
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News Item6/27/13 7:45 PM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Michael Hranek wrote:
In his own words on YouTube
But I don't expect you to appreciate what he says
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axxlXy6bLH0
But hint it aint Baptist religious doctrine.
I used to watch Graham's Crusades on television and I have seen Graham's son's Crusades on television and Graham preached and his son preaches the Baptist doctrine of salvation that salvation comes only through embracing Jesus as ones Savior.
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News Item6/27/13 7:29 PM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Protected NameFind all comments by Michael Hranek
John Yurich USA wrote:
Graham and his son's religious doctrines are those of the Baptist Church. Graham preached and his son preaches the Baptist doctrine of salvation that salvation comes only through embracing Jesus as ones Savior. So there is nothing unscriptural about their doctrine of salvation.
In his own words on YouTube
But I don't expect you to appreciate what he says
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axxlXy6bLH0

But hint it aint Baptist religious doctrine.

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News Item6/27/13 7:25 PM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Michael Hranek wrote:
I take it you won't give approval to Billy Graham's ecumenism.
Graham and his son's religious doctrines are those of the Baptist Church. Graham preached and his son preaches the Baptist doctrine of salvation that salvation comes only through embracing Jesus as ones Savior. So there is nothing unscriptural about their doctrine of salvation.
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News Item6/27/13 6:21 PM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Protected NameFind all comments by Michael Hranek
1517 wrote:
Michael Hranek,
There is no doubt that Mr. Lewis (Anglican) was off on some theological points, but not all.

As for the RCC, I stand with you that true believers stay clear of the obvious blasphemy that it upholds as holy and attributed to the true worship of God.

1517
I will respect that this is your opinion of C.S. Lewis.

So let me ask you some questions, just for some thought.

If the world views Lewis with 'its approval' as an evangelical superstar should genuine born again believers? and why did they do that?

I take it you won't give approval to Billy Graham's ecumenism, so what do you see in Lewis to allow you to approve of his?

Just thinking.

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News Item6/27/13 5:45 PM
Mike | Florida  Find all comments by Mike
Truly sad. Especially within the reformed churches.
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News Item6/27/13 4:53 PM
1517  Find all comments by 1517
Michael Hranek,
There is no doubt that Mr. Lewis (Anglican) was off on some theological points, but not all. I believe God owns all truth and sometimes that truth comes from a pagan or someone who may be in error on other matters. The Apostle Paul quoted a Greek poet in Acts 17. This doesn't mean he validated all the poet said, but what was true. I find Lewis' writing fascinating and full of truth. It is our duty to be discerning, but not rash in our judgments. As for the RCC, I stand with you that true believers stay clear of the obvious blasphemy that it upholds as holy and attributed to the true worship of God.
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News Item6/27/13 4:03 PM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Protected NameFind all comments by Michael Hranek
Parton wrote:
MH
Not quite sure whether you are suggesting Lewis was RCC or not.
Parton
Let's see if I can word this a bit clearer for you.

C.S. Lewis GIVES:
a devote Roman Catholic, one passionate for his/her FALSE counterfeit version of (qoute) Christianity, one knowledgable of RCC teachings, practises and (bloody) history, including persecutions/inquistions, child sex scandals, the sale of indulgences AND in agreement with the RCC on what she teaches from the Papacy (Apostalic Succession - their "church" founded on Peter), the Mass, the RC eucharist, the RC Sacraments, Purgatory, and limbo too for unsprinkled RC babies, all the way to repeated Rosaries prayed to the RC "Mary"

A NON-Biblical Evangelicalism devote knowledgeable Roman Catholics can love and embrace as a Catholic-minded ecumenical brethern

Not actually Roman Catholic, just with so much in common with the RCC a RC could call them Catholic-minded.

I would plead and strongly urge that knowledgable born again believers respectively part company with both the Roman Catholic Church and C.S. Lewis, and others like him, on Biblical grounds.

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