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THURSDAY, JUN 13, 2013  |  15 comments
Southern Baptists shy from abandoning Boy Scouts
Amid speculation the influential denomination would urge its churches to abandon the Boy Scouts of America, the Southern Baptist Convention appears poised to merely call for the removal of some scout leadership after the youth organization voted to allow openly homosexual youth to join.

At its annual meeting in Houston, the SBC committee released a proposed resolution that will be voted on by its delegates from across the nation. Individual Southern Baptist congregations, in any case, are autonomous and can make their own decisions.

Without naming Boy Scouts leaders, the resolution asked to remove some in executive and board positions who had tried to change the policy earlier this year without input from “the full range of the Scouting family.” ...


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News Item6/13/13 2:01 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Yes, my pastor, of Independent Fundamentalist Baptist note, has warned about dangers from within. I believe this is an English site that has taken quotes rather extensively of what he said about the dangers that come from false leaders,
Forbidden Bible Verses: 2 Peter 1:1-12
. Unfortunately, there has been signs of SBC stumbling around with some of their leaders supporting the Promise Keepers and the Rising Tide of Ecumenism. So, it is time for many members of the SBC or whole churches to re-evaluate their association with the SBC. This lack of action on the BSA, would demand it, I would think.
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News Item6/13/13 1:42 PM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Protected NameFind all comments by Michael Hranek
SteveR wrote:
Im not buying it because the BSA already allowed Mormons, Atheists, Hindus, Muslims etc kids and leaders into their programs and the SBC welcomed them.
So what you are saying is they really should have parted company long before this. I would agree. Thanks
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News Item6/13/13 12:46 PM
jpw  Find all comments by jpw
are you serious?

baptists are going to send out boys flirting with boys sleeping in a tent together? you've got to be kidding me!

seems a defining moment.

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News Item6/13/13 12:03 PM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
Michael Hranek wrote:
SteveR
At the expense of the kids???
Excuse me but if the BSA or any other organization or cherished religion is guilty of abusing or putting into danger children they are the ones guilty.
The SBC may indeed be guilty of its own 'missdeeds' but it would be dishonest to blame them for parting company with the BSA any more than if would be to blame the victims of rc priest abuse (or any other denomination's abuse for that matter) for daring to raise protest against it and part company with them over it.
And in case of actual abuse of children for turning the matter over to the police and courts to be dealt with appropriately by law.
AGAIN Don't blame the very imperfect SBC for what is wrong with the BSA or criticize if they part company with them, blame the BSA.
Im not buying it because the BSA already allowed Mormons, Atheists, Hindus, Muslims etc kids and leaders into their programs and the SBC welcomed them.
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News Item6/13/13 11:11 AM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Protected NameFind all comments by Michael Hranek
SteveR wrote:
just saying
To me it looks like the same old political sanctimonious double standard played before, but now at the expense of kids. I would guess the BSA has better overall values compared to some other organizations that use SBC facilities.
SteveR
At the expense of the kids???

Excuse me but if the BSA or any other organization or cherished religion is guilty of abusing or putting into danger children they are the ones guilty.

The SBC may indeed be guilty of its own 'missdeeds' but it would be dishonest to blame them for parting company with the BSA any more than if would be to blame the victims of rc priest abuse (or any other denomination's abuse for that matter) for daring to raise protest against it and part company with them over it.

And in case of actual abuse of children for turning the matter over to the police and courts to be dealt with appropriately by law.

AGAIN Don't blame the very imperfect SBC for what is wrong with the BSA or criticize if they part company with them, blame the BSA.

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News Item6/13/13 10:37 AM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
Michael Hranek wrote:
SteveR
Welcoming sinners to attend services where the Truth, where the Gospel of Christ is preached whether or not they be atheists, muslims, mormons, roman catholics, boy scouts, homosexuals, or serial killers (ex. abortionists, and the politicans and movers behind the murder of pre-born babies) is one thing.
Providing them with facilities to carry on their activities is an entirely different thing again.
Neither the SBC nor any other church that would be faithful to Christ ought to provide, abortionists, homosexuals, muslims, mormons, roman catholic priests, ungodly politicans any pulpit nor opportunity to speak let alone promote their causes, agendas and false teachings, or anything else to aid and abet them in their sin and the promotion of it.
PERIOD. thank you very much
just saying

To me it looks like the same old political sanctimonious double standard played before, but now at the expense of kids. I would guess the BSA has better overall values compared to some other organizations that use SBC facilities.

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News Item6/13/13 10:21 AM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Protected NameFind all comments by Michael Hranek
Barry from KY. wrote:
I do feel we have to be careful to engage the culture of today, otherwise it will never experience the Word.
Barry, I agree and how wonderful it is indeed for the world to meet people who know and love the Lord Jesus Christ in obedience to Him not just religious things about Him.

John 14:21-23,24

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News Item6/13/13 10:10 AM
Barry from KY. | Northern KY  Find all comments by Barry from KY.
Michael Hranek wrote:
Barry from KY
We simply cannot be Godly "salt" and "light" to the world if there is no DIFFERENCE between us and the world, if we allow in our churches whatever the world approves of and allows.
Yes, there is a danger or degenerating into a closed bigoted (sp?) cult,
HOWEVER in the mercy, grace and Truth of God, and the Lord Jesus Christ there is the very real potential of being the holy bride without spot or wrinkle, for Spirit filled, God fearing, faithful obedient saints of God in churches that experience the manifold presence, the power and the glory of God in our midst.
IMHO we have much learning, growing AND REPENTING, CONFESSING OF OUR OWN SINS to get "there" but I believe it is safe to say the Lord Jesus Christ is more than worth it.
btw I have to think such churches, faithful to Christ and the word of God are very much in praying for the will of God.
I see your point Michael. I have no experience with the scouts. There would be no gospel message during the scout meeting, i'm sure.
I do feel we have to be careful to engage the culture of today, otherwise it will never experience the Word.
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News Item6/13/13 9:50 AM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Protected NameFind all comments by Michael Hranek
SteveR wrote:
It sure looks like a political move against the BSA to me Barry, as SBC churches dont turn away 'gay' persons on Sunday mornings. The same guys voting out the BSA would gladly welcome a seriel killer in on Sunday morning
*and they would feel very holy doing both
SteveR
Welcoming sinners to attend services where the Truth, where the Gospel of Christ is preached whether or not they be atheists, muslims, mormons, roman catholics, boy scouts, homosexuals, or serial killers (ex. abortionists, and the politicans and movers behind the murder of pre-born babies) is one thing.

Providing them with facilities to carry on their activities is an entirely different thing again.

Neither the SBC nor any other church that would be faithful to Christ ought to provide, abortionists, homosexuals, muslims, mormons, roman catholic priests, ungodly politicans any pulpit nor opportunity to speak let alone promote their causes, agendas and false teachings, or anything else to aid and abet them in their sin and the promotion of it.

PERIOD. thank you very much

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News Item6/13/13 9:38 AM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
Barry from KY. wrote:
There are a few SBC churches allowing the organization to use their building here locally.
I think this begs the question, should the body of Christ turn this organisation away? How can we be salt if the body of Christ secludes itself. It makes Christians seem more cultish, I would think.
Christ dined with sinners and tax collectors, what about us???
It sure looks like a political move against the BSA to me Barry, as SBC churches dont turn away 'gay' persons on Sunday mornings. The same guys voting out the BSA would gladly welcome a seriel killer in on Sunday morning

*and they would feel very holy doing both

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News Item6/13/13 8:33 AM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Protected NameFind all comments by Michael Hranek
Barry from KY. wrote:
There are a few SBC churches allowing the organization to use their building here locally.
I think this begs the question, should the body of Christ turn this organisation away? How can we be salt if the body of Christ secludes itself. It makes Christians seem more cultish, I would think.
Christ dined with sinners and tax collectors, what about us???
Barry from KY
We simply cannot be Godly "salt" and "light" to the world if there is no DIFFERENCE between us and the world, if we allow in our churches whatever the world approves of and allows.

Yes, there is a danger or degenerating into a closed bigoted (sp?) cult,

HOWEVER in the mercy, grace and Truth of God, and the Lord Jesus Christ there is the very real potential of being the holy bride without spot or wrinkle, for Spirit filled, God fearing, faithful obedient saints of God in churches that experience the manifold presence, the power and the glory of God in our midst.

IMHO we have much learning, growing AND REPENTING, CONFESSING OF OUR OWN SINS to get "there" but I believe it is safe to say the Lord Jesus Christ is more than worth it.

btw I have to think such churches, faithful to Christ and the word of God are very much in praying for the will of God.

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News Item6/13/13 8:19 AM
Barry from KY. | Northern KY  Find all comments by Barry from KY.
There are a few SBC churches allowing the organization to use their building here locally.

I think this begs the question, should the body of Christ turn this organisation away? How can we be salt if the body of Christ secludes itself. It makes Christians seem more cultish, I would think.

Christ dined with sinners and tax collectors, what about us???

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News Item6/13/13 8:18 AM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Protected NameFind all comments by Michael Hranek
Scripture asks a telling question
and gives what should rightfully put a proper fear of the LORD in us if any of us to dare continue in this kind of disobedience and disloyalty to Christ.

“Should you help the wicked and love those who hate the Lord? Therefore the wrath of the Lord is upon you."

If we love father or mother, brother or sister, son or daughter, or anyone else or anything else, even the boy scouts (and for JY the rcc) more than we love the Lord Jesus Christ I believe it is safe to say we are not worthy of Him and need to repent.

Please do pray for the SBC and other denominations (ourselves too, even our 'friend' JY) that whereever and in whatsoever we need to repent that they and we also do.

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News Item6/13/13 7:52 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
AWANA
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News Item6/13/13 6:25 AM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
I never knew that there were any Baptist Churches involved with the Boy Scouts of America. I thought the Baptist Churches had an organization similar called AWARE or something like that.
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