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SUNDAY, JUN 2, 2013  |  22 comments
Calvin College's New President Talks Budget Pressures, Diversity, and the Biggest Theological Issue Today

What's the most significant theological challenge currently facing Calvin?

The biggest issue is, what does it mean to be obedient to Christ? Before any specific issue is really the posture of the heart toward Christ, and how we encourage a spirit of obedience among 18-year-olds who perhaps up until this point, their experience of faith has been youth group.

All of the language of serious, committed faith is obedience language—take up the cross and follow. It's the cost of discipleship. It's not pretty stuff that you can make nice. It's pretty rugged stuff, but that's the gospel. Theologically, how do we convey that truth in a graceful way and not water it down? Then that has implications for all the other issues.

Of course every Christian college president is worried about this, but homosexuality is a very real issue for campuses. We have gay and lesbian students here. I have met with them. ...


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News Item6/3/13 6:13 AM
Troll spotter  Find all comments by Troll spotter
SteveR wrote:
.. actions like your hate for the ELECT in the RCC & your lust for this gossip thread demontrates otherwise...
This Roman Catholic troll thinks he can love the unseen elect, but continue to hate those who are already proving their election by their faith in Christ and their love of apostolic doctrine! What idiocy!
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News Item6/3/13 5:15 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Frank wrote:
You know one time SteveR posted something in a very unusual manner that lent itself to demonic possession.
The serpent may have camouflage, but it is the hissing that gives it away.
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News Item6/2/13 7:49 PM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
SteveR wrote:
Sorry Dorcas, you are very transparent.
You pretend to have good fruit, but actions like your hate for the ELECT in the RCC & your lust for this gossip thread demontrates otherwise
Luke 6:43 For a good tree bringeth not forth corrupt fruit; neither doth a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
I have never heard anyone of this message board say they hated the elect or that they hate those who are in the RCC. We all have said we hate the RCC's theology because it is from Satan. They are simply modern day Pharisees.

Now just to correct your comment, I don't hate Catholics, Mormons or Muslims and I'm sure Dorcas feels the same way. She has family and so do I that are in the RCC. Surely even you must understand that she doesn't hate her family. We love them and that is why we tell them to come out from them. Neither of us want to see them undergo God's wrath. I don't want you to undergo His wrath either! I pray for you on a regular basis.

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News Item6/2/13 7:43 PM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
Dorcas wrote:
Thank you brother Frank for your defense of me against the slanderer of the brethren.
His hatred is apparent to all on this forum of any who come out and speak of the old harlot Rome.
Which by Gods grace I will NEVER stop telling those that are deceived by her, to flee and run to the Lord Jesus Christ and trust in Him and His FINISHED work on the cross as their substitute.
Sorry Dorcas, you are very transparent.

You pretend to have good fruit, but actions like your hate for the ELECT in the RCC & your lust for this gossip thread demontrates otherwise

Luke 6:43 For a good tree bringeth not forth corrupt fruit; neither doth a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

It just occured to me why you and Frank might not be allowed to attend a RCC Church. Its because their prayer was answered

Matthew 6:13 .. but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

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News Item6/2/13 7:41 PM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
Dorcas wrote:
Thank you brother Frank for your defense of me against the slanderer of the brethren.
His hatred is apparent to all on this forum of any who come out and speak of the old harlot Rome.
Which by Gods grace I will NEVER stop telling those that are deceived by her, to flee and run to the Lord Jesus Christ and trust in Him and His FINISHED work on the cross as their substitute.
Like you, I was raised in the RCC and I truly believe they are in fact Satan's church because they have and are deceiving the most people. You hang in there.

And once again, well said regarding Christ our Substitute! It is indeed finished and by one offering He has perfected forever those who are being sanctified. (paraphrase)

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News Item6/2/13 7:33 PM
Dorcas | USA  Find all comments by Dorcas
Thank you brother Frank for your defense of me against the slanderer of the brethren.
His hatred is apparent to all on this forum of any who come out and speak of the old harlot Rome.
Which by Gods grace I will NEVER stop telling those that are deceived by her, to flee and run to the Lord Jesus Christ and trust in Him and His FINISHED work on the cross as their substitute.
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News Item6/2/13 7:08 PM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
SteveR wrote:
Just because the men are gossiping on this thread, it doesnt mean you have to jump in and be taken captive
2 Timothy 3:6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
But SteveR, Dorcas is a genuine sister in Christ, born again from above. Since that is true, why would you associate her in any way with silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts?

For by one offering she has been perfected forever.

Sorry Dorcas to keep you in the spotlight, but it really annoys me that he is associating you with the lost. Since you are not going to defend yourself, and I understand that decision, I will do it for you if you don't mind. If that bothers you in any way, please let me know and I will "lovingly and understandably" stop.

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News Item6/2/13 6:33 PM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
Dorcas wrote:
Troll spotter,
Concerning your post on SteveR, I give it a hearty AMEN!!
Just because the men are gossiping on this thread, it doesnt mean you have to jump in and be taken captive

2 Timothy 3:6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,

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News Item6/2/13 6:29 PM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
Troll spotter wrote:
Why do I think that this character is the same? Well, its the same rhetoric, the same lies, the same signature (attack those seen as the most vulnerable e.g. Dorcas) etc.
The man's a possessed menace. I am almost tempted to think that every moniker promoting the RCC cause (other than JY) is this single individual spewing more RCC apologetics.
@Toastthehost
I believe TLC was plain mental!
Well, you are certainly more knowledgable about this Schwarb character and SteveR. You know one time SteveR posted something in a very unusual manner that lent itself to demonic possession. He was either trying to be cute or .... I can find it for you if you want.

Yes, it was a shame how he treated Dorcas. I believe her attitude is correct and she should simply ignore him completely. I don't mind him attacking me, but not one of our "genuine" sisters in Christ; especially without cause. It is even harder for a woman to be a believer in Christ and follow Him, then a male; therefore she has been a great encouragement to me and others.

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News Item6/2/13 6:15 PM
Dorcas | USA  Find all comments by Dorcas
Troll spotter,
Concerning your post on SteveR, I give it a hearty AMEN!!
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News Item6/2/13 6:07 PM
Troll spotter  Find all comments by Troll spotter
Frank wrote:
...Who is this Schwarb character and why do you think he and SteveR are the same.
Schwarb is an apostate who went to a reformed seminary and then turned Roman Catholic. He posted here under his own name for a while but once people cottoned onto the fact that this troll was trying to proselytize the unwary to the Roman Catholic cause, he started using various monikers like "not your pope" etc.

Why do I think that this character is the same? Well, its the same rhetoric, the same lies, the same signature (attack those seen as the most vulnerable e.g. Dorcas) etc.

The man's a possessed menace. I am almost tempted to think that every moniker promoting the RCC cause (other than JY) is this single individual spewing more RCC apologetics.

@Toastthehost

I believe TLC was plain mental!

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News Item6/2/13 5:55 PM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
Troll spotter wrote:
Hello Frank, thanks for your comment.
Both JY and SteveR (aka Schwarb etc) are pernicious characters as they are out to deceive the unwary. Not sure out of the two who is the worse. At the moment I am thinking the Jesuit SteveR, only because he has obviously had some sort of theological education, as woefully inadequate as it evidently is, and with his ignorant and blinded minded he is out to make disciples for the Whore church. Virtually everything he posts on here is a shameless lie. He is indeed a son of perdition, probably on this board at the instigation of the Roman Pontiff. Not that he is doing a good job because he obviously flunked Jesuit college and that's why he keeps making school boy errors!
You may in fact be correct.
But I tend to think that if SteveR had any RC theological training then he would at least sometimes defend their doctrine, but he "never" has. But, since he is "familiar" with scripture, I have always thought he was part of the Emergent Church movement. I'll bet I am right. Who is this Schwarb character and why do you think he and SteveR are the same.
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News Item6/2/13 5:55 PM
toastthehost  Find all comments by toastthehost
Troll spotter wrote:
Hello Frank, thanks for your comment.
Both JY and SteveR (aka Schwarb etc) are pernicious characters as they are out to deceive the unwary.
You can add Tony (TLC)who I am sure was also a phoney to make evangelicals look stupid.

Probably the same hand works more than one romanist puppet?

puppet

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News Item6/2/13 5:32 PM
Troll spotter  Find all comments by Troll spotter
Frank wrote:
I think you have John Y all figured out. He is simply a troll that doesn't believe anything, but loves to agitate, which is of course the goal of a troll. He says the same things over and over and over and ...
Hello Frank, thanks for your comment.

Both JY and SteveR (aka Schwarb etc) are pernicious characters as they are out to deceive the unwary. Not sure out of the two who is the worse. At the moment I am thinking the Jesuit SteveR, only because he has obviously had some sort of theological education, as woefully inadequate as it evidently is, and with his ignorant and blinded minded he is out to make disciples for the Whore church. Virtually everything he posts on here is a shameless lie. He is indeed a son of perdition, probably on this board at the instigation of the Roman Pontiff. Not that he is doing a good job because he obviously flunked Jesuit college and that's why he keeps making school boy errors!

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News Item6/2/13 4:26 PM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
Troll spotter wrote:
Is that why the NT is so full of contention for sound doctrine and against erroneous teachings? Is that why in Jude we are commanded to contend earnestly for the faith once delivered?
As I said you wouldn't understand any of this because you have no spiritual life. You're as dead as a Dodo. A self proclaimed logician but dead as a Dodo all the same.
I think you have John Y all figured out. He is simply a troll that doesn't believe anything, but loves to agitate, which is of course the goal of a troll. He says the same things over and over and over and ...
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News Item6/2/13 3:42 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
John Yurich USA wrote:
Nowhere in the Bible is it mentioned that one who is Born Again has to attend any church including an Evangelical Protestant Church in order to be saved.
I didn't say that, John. Read again:

"A Catholic Church attender can't be a Christian unless they repent of attending a gospel-denying church."

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News Item6/2/13 1:14 PM
Troll spotter  Find all comments by Troll spotter
John Yurich USA wrote:
Nowhere in the Bible is it mentioned that one who is Born Again has to attend any church including an Evangelical Protestant Church in order to be saved.
Is that why the NT is so full of contention for sound doctrine and against erroneous teachings? Is that why in Jude we are commanded to contend earnestly for the faith once delivered?

As I said you wouldn't understand any of this because you have no spiritual life. You're as dead as a Dodo. A self proclaimed logician but dead as a Dodo all the same.

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News Item6/2/13 12:45 PM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Protected NameFind all comments by Michael Hranek
John Yurich USA wrote:
Nowhere in the Bible is it mentioned that one who is Born Again has to attend any church including an Evangelical Protestant Church in order to be saved.
Ah But, John, nowhere is Scripture is it written one who continues in unrepentant willfull disobience to Jesus Christ, and to the word of God is a born again Christian either, thank you very much.
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News Item6/2/13 12:39 PM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
John UK wrote:
A Catholic Church attender can't be a Christian unless they repent of attending a gospel-denying church.
Nowhere in the Bible is it mentioned that one who is Born Again has to attend any church including an Evangelical Protestant Church in order to be saved.
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News Item6/2/13 11:46 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
John Yurich USA wrote:
A homosexual can't be a Christian unless they repent of their homosexuality.
A Catholic Church attender can't be a Christian unless they repent of attending a gospel-denying church.

CaptCredence wrote:
"Ichabod" seems most fitting.
Are you aware of any church where the glory of God is so evident as to draw believers from miles around?
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