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Pope Francis gives Roman Catholic church hundreds of new saints

Pope Francis on Sunday gave the Catholic church new saints, including hundreds of 15th-century martyrs who were beheaded for refusing to convert to Islam, as he led his first canonization ceremony Sunday in a packed St. Peter's Square.

The "Martyrs of Otranto" were 813 Italians who were slain in the southern Italian city in 1480 for defying demands by Turkish invaders who overran the citadel to renounce Christianity.

Their approval for sainthood was decided upon by Francis' predecessor, Benedict XVI, in a decree read at the ceremony in February where the former pontiff announced his retirement. ...


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News Item6/8/13 2:54 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Read an interesting article about Pope Fran's capitulation to Islam, by making saints of those of were slaughtered by Muhammadans.
JOSEPH D’HIPPOLITO wrote:
“As we venerate the martyrs of Otranto,” Francis said, “let us ask God to sustain many Christians who... now suffer from violence and to give them the courage of fidelity and to answer evil with good.”

Such remarks, intended to encourage persecuted Christians, actually do the opposite. They tell innocent men, women and children that, while they might be honored in death, they will receive no meaningful support while they live.

excerpt The Vatican and Islam. This is quite a good article, so look it over.
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News Item5/17/13 2:05 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Why, John U.K., you must mean that Should Roman Catholicism really be classified as a Christian religion? -- No. (PDF)
JFB Commentary wrote:
Acts 17:20:

18-21. certain . . . of the Epicureans—a well-known school of atheistic materialists, who taught that pleasure was the chief end of human existence; a principle which the more rational interpreted in a refined sense, while the sensual explained it in its coarser meaning.
and of the Stoics—a celebrated school of severe and lofty pantheists, whose principle was that the universe was under the law of an iron necessity, the spirit of which was what is called the Deity: and that a passionless conformity of the human will to this law, unmoved by all external circumstances and changes, is the perfection of virtue. While therefore the Stoical was in itself superior to the Epicurean system, both were alike hostile to the Gospel. "The two enemies it has ever had to contend with are the two ruling principles of the Epicureans and Stoics—Pleasure and Pride" [HOWSON]....

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The Gospel of the Unknown God
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News Item5/15/13 6:15 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
It is worth mentioning that the evangelistic work of The Perfect Man did not result in many converts, which knocks on the head the idea that good character and perfect obedience to the leading of the Spirit will produce a good effect.

It is also worth mentioning that I believe the Christian should be noticeable for honesty, stability, peace, joy and love. In these days of double-dealing, con-men, second-agendas, religious reprobates, cults and heretical sects, false prophets, charlatans and money-grubbers, it behoves Christians to live in the Spirit - not in the flesh - in order that their testimony be not cast behind people's backs as part of the same.

Either way, it will still only be "God that giveth the increase", and that "as many as were appointed to eternal life, believed".

What do you know to Chris000 wrote:
When you said 'stupid', the Presby recognised himself. That's what I found funny.
Now that IS funny!
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News Item5/15/13 6:08 PM
Dorcas | USA  Find all comments by Dorcas
Thank you Lisa.
All of Gods best to you!
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News Item5/15/13 6:08 PM
Grecian  Find all comments by Grecian
Lisa wrote:
--- I do think that this is a biblical case of a Christian wilfully entering into a pagan set up in order to reach the lost. ----
The Aeropagus was the high court in Athens

See http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Areopagus_sermon

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News Item5/15/13 5:54 PM
Lisa | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by Lisa
Dorcas I recently listened to an excellent sermon entitled persevering in prayer by dechard Stevens, it's in the staff picks. It was so very helpful regarding this subject. I have been praying for family members myself and had little answer to prayer ( until recently - and have had a little nibble in the last couple of weeks). But this sermon was really one of those that helped me to u d'état and why this happens and it helped me to press on. Don't stop praying for the battle is up there and with him- he is faithful and he will not withhold anything good from you.
Yes I accept these points regarding the catholic church. I wonder whether Paul would have been wise going to the Areopagus if he had been a Greek pagan- I do think that this is a biblical case of a Christian wilfully entering into a pagan set up in order to reach the lost. At the end of the day I think the leading must be of god and we must never say never. What could be right for one person could be very wrong for another.
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News Item5/15/13 5:36 PM
Dorcas | USA  Find all comments by Dorcas
My whole family are RC, so I feel qualified to give a response to your posts.
We have talked to them all and given a clear presentation of the gospel of grace,walked it out before them,given bibles,tracts,books etc....and of course praying daily for them all.As of yet the Lord has not opened any of their hearts.They know there is a difference between us and them in how we just handle day to day life,and trust in the Lord for all things.but...
we will not attend their place of religion for any reason and have explained by using scripture,why.We feel after reading the Bible that it is a pagan religion that mocks the finished work of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Let every man be persuaded.
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News Item5/15/13 5:36 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Lisa wrote:
You didn't answer my question-
Do you think there is ever a circumstance that we could attend a catholic church righteously in order to reach the lost ?
It's not a trick question, im of two minds on this question myself- if Paul went to the Areopagus could we justify attending a catholic church ? I attended an Anglican church and it was ok....for a bit not long term, and I had a clear leading.
I greatly believe that the gospel should reach every person in the world. That is the task biblically. I have personally made an effort to witness to Catholics by having short articles and stories published in Catholic magazines. I have visited a Benedictine monastery by way of staying in their guest house, and have spoken privately to some of the nuns in their cloister rooms, spoken to 'gentlemen of the road' who daily came for their tea and biscuits, and to other visitors in the guesthouse, who inevitably were searching for something spiritual or religious. I witnessed to the staff who came in on a daily basis, and anyone else who I came across. I don't know if any were helped or not, but eternity will show it.

But the gospel is a message. No words - NO GOSPEL!!

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News Item5/15/13 5:17 PM
Lisa | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by Lisa
You didn't answer my question-
Do you think there is ever a circumstance that we could attend a catholic church righteously in order to reach the lost ?
It's not a trick question, im of two minds on this question myself- if Paul went to the Areopagus could we justify attending a catholic church ? I attended an Anglican church and it was ok....for a bit not long term, and I had a clear leading.
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News Item5/15/13 5:05 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Lisa wrote:
1. John you are making me think you wrote that last comment with some humor and maybe a smile on your face. I'm responding gently. 2. All my friends who are born again have left the catholic church- and I would suggest to anyone going to a catholic church that they should leave. 3. Buuuuuuut- when I talk to folk about Jesus and witness the gospel I would like to think that I don't approach them as immediate gospel fodder ( that's me -). I think everyone is at a different place, some folk are exploring and searching, some are time wasting....I would like to think that my first priority is to glorify Jesus and reflect his love.
Lisa
1. Correct - thank you.
2. Well that is good! Amen to that!
3. I think I see what you are trying to say, and that is much better. The JW's have a Witnessing Manual which they follow, which is why they always sound the same when they come to the door. The Christian has the Spirit within, and MUST follow his leading when it comes to different people. Some will need gentleness, others fierceness. Some will respond more to a sombre message, others to a joyful message. Only the Spirit knows perfectly, and we may try to follow his guidance. If that is what you mean, then -

Happy witnessing!

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News Item5/15/13 5:00 PM
Lisa | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by Lisa
( cont). Preaching the gospel is a spiritual thing. We don't get unblinded eyes opened here, but on our knees. God alone will do that. Prayer and fasting. The battle occurs in the heavenlies- we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against powers and principalities. Sometimes you are given a verse which the lord can use- sometimes a bit of knowledge.
At the end of the day the lord knows my name, and he knows my reasoning for using my name.

I would not join a catholic church- but have considered attending in order to give my testimony - and I agree with you, I maybe totally wrong on that consideration ( which is why I have not already done it)- but it breaks my heart to think of all those blinded folk bound in such darkness- I guess my honest question is, can you righteously attend a catholic church in order to reach the lost. Didn't Paul go to the Areopagus in order to reach the Gentiles ? I'm interested in your thoughts.

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News Item5/15/13 4:45 PM
Lisa | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by Lisa
John you are making me think you wrote that last comment with some humor and maybe a smile on your face. I'm responding gently. All my friends who are born again have left the catholic church- and I would suggest to anyone going to a catholic church that they should leave. Buuuuuuut- when I talk to folk about Jesus and witness the gospel I would like to think that I don't approach them as immediate gospel fodder ( that's me -). I think everyone is at a different place, some folk are exploring and searching, some are time wasting....I would like to think that my first priority is to glorify Jesus and reflect his love. I may speak to someone else here differently to how I would speak to you. If a jw were on as, I would speak to him at a different level ( are you getting my drift). The important thing surely is to help someone find the way to Jesus. Sometimes you can't preach the gospel and you can't preach doctrine because there is a spiritual blinding ( which maybe the case with a person in the rc church). In those situations bombing them with doctrine is not going to help- I recall a saying we had in one church, preachbthevgospelmand if you have to use words. I'm sure there is a verse in the bible that says, I am not ashamed of the gospel, it is the power of god unto salvation. I
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News Item5/15/13 4:38 PM
name or alias  Find all comments by name or alias
Lisa wrote:
I'm not sure why folk write under false names....it is a form of deception and that is not suggestive of a person walking in the holy spirit
So declares the person who would join with idolatrous pagans who worship relics of dead bodies and bits of material.

You call yourself "Lisa" - But you cannot prove to us that this is your true name. Perhaps you are a Jesuit priest trying to change the attitudes of Christians to accept the Papal antichrist? And other false religions.

Or perhaps you use your own name because you lack humility and in the sin of pride, want to see your name up in lights?

As you can see their are other ways of looking at it.

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News Item5/15/13 4:34 PM
Lest thou fall  Find all comments by Lest thou fall
Lisa wrote:
Dorcas- I'm wrong ? About considering attending a catholic church to reach the lost ? I dunno you maybe right. Not quite sure what you are referring to - have you read the full transcript of this thread or did you just skim read- sometimes I skim read things and arrive at a wrong destination. Forgive me but your bit of testimony suggests that you think I'm advocating the catholic church- which I certainly am not. I would however like to suggest that it can take an amount of time for the holy spirit to bring a person to the right conclusion.
I'm not sure why folk write under false names....it is a form of deception and that is not suggestive of a person walking in the holy spirit ( I guess you gave it away calling yourself witch spirit eh).
Actually I think that you can tell a lot from writing on places like this- I don't think you can have crucified the flesh and spend your time trying to belittle people. Being crucified to the flesh and walking in the spirit is a 24 hour 7 day a week jobby- it's not something you put on an take off.
1 Corinthians 13.
You are a real holier than thou person. You came onto this site judging people and you still doing it. What makes you so special? Ah, must be your spirit don't you think?
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News Item5/15/13 4:29 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Lisa wrote:
I'm not sure why folk write under false names....it is a form of deception and that is not suggestive of a person walking in the holy spirit ( I guess you gave it away calling yourself witch spirit eh).
Actually I think that you can tell a lot from writing on places like this- I don't think you can have crucified the flesh and spend your time trying to belittle people. Being crucified to the flesh and walking in the spirit is a 24 hour 7 day a week jobby- it's not something you put on an take off.
1 Corinthians 13.
And who exactly are you referring to with these accusations?

Wow, aren't you the spiritual one!

The perfect woman, eh?

Say, you never did reply to my question. Were you saying that you know loads of born again Catholics? Or you know loads of former Catholics who have been born again and left the RCC?

Now tread gently, because I'm very sensitive and respond only to love.

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News Item5/15/13 4:22 PM
Lisa | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by Lisa
Dorcas- I'm wrong ? About considering attending a catholic church to reach the lost ? I dunno you maybe right. Not quite sure what you are referring to - have you read the full transcript of this thread or did you just skim read- sometimes I skim read things and arrive at a wrong destination. Forgive me but your bit of testimony suggests that you think I'm advocating the catholic church- which I certainly am not. I would however like to suggest that it can take an amount of time for the holy spirit to bring a person to the right conclusion.

I'm not sure why folk write under false names....it is a form of deception and that is not suggestive of a person walking in the holy spirit ( I guess you gave it away calling yourself witch spirit eh).

Actually I think that you can tell a lot from writing on places like this- I don't think you can have crucified the flesh and spend your time trying to belittle people. Being crucified to the flesh and walking in the spirit is a 24 hour 7 day a week jobby- it's not something you put on an take off.
1 Corinthians 13.

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News Item5/15/13 4:20 PM
Well done good sister  Find all comments by Well done good sister
Dorcas wrote:
Lisa,
As one who was born into a RC Irish,always had been RC,you are wrong.
When the Lord in His great mercy opened my eyes to what a great and lost sinner I was and I started studying the Bible for myself with the Holy Spirit as my helper I saw that everything that Rome taught was a lie and had no biblical warrant for any of their hocas pocas magic show they deceive the poor people with daily.
If a person is truly born again and indwelled by the Holy Spirit he will drive you away from ALL false religion.
Test every spirit.

Lisa needs humility of mind, and could learn a great deal from a godly woman like you.

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News Item5/15/13 4:19 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Clearly Challenged wrote:
...confusion reigns...
Incorrect. The simplest believer, following the Bible, and illuminated by the Spirit, can tell you what you must do to be saved.
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News Item5/15/13 4:02 PM
Dorcas | USA  Find all comments by Dorcas
Lisa,
As one who was born into a RC Irish,always had been RC,you are wrong.
When the Lord in His great mercy opened my eyes to what a great and lost sinner I was and I started studying the Bible for myself with the Holy Spirit as my helper I saw that everything that Rome taught was a lie and had no biblical warrant for any of their hocas pocas magic show they deceive the poor people with daily.
If a person is truly born again and indwelled by the Holy Spirit he will drive you away from ALL false religion.
Test every spirit.
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News Item5/15/13 3:33 PM
RCC Troll spotter | Land of truth  Find all comments by RCC Troll spotter
Clearly Challenged wrote:
2,000 years of Spiritual Understanding and Enlightenment and nothing but confusion reigns and rules regarding what to do with:
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Lord's Supper
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