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TUESDAY, APR 30, 2013  |  3 comments
GRAY: Gay marriage is really about moral authority

One of the unremarked ironies of the Prop 8 case before the Supreme Court is same-sex couples’ demand for the blessing of state-recognized “marriage” — a label which owes much of its moral authority to its religious roots. Put another way, would there be as much of a controversy over the availability of the “marriage” title if it had no religious and moral connotations?

At oral argument, California’s Solicitor General noted that the state provides that “gay and lesbian couples do have legal rights and benefits of marriage, full equality and adoption, full access to assistive reproduction,” leading the chief justice to remark that “it’s just about the label in this case.”

California’s mistake, we are told, was in treating homosexual and heterosexual unions almost — but not completely — identically, thus triggering an equal protection argument that other states could seemingly avoid by doing ...


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Excellent post. Connects dots between yesterday's liberal incursion into the church and today's sexual revolution leading to SSM.

Liberalism baked in churches wrote:
"We can wax eloquent for post after post about the creeping liberalism in the church even in the 1800s and the effects that it had on once-clear and mandated practices, about the death of orthodoxy in places like Harvard, the once-brilliant seminary. Exclusive psalmody, head covering, etc. are easily quoted in their ecclesiastical historical contexts to show the rising influence of worldliness in the church and a moving away from biblical ordinances.
"But we don't like to touch the church teachings on birth control, because we've gone so far in the other direction that a return to them is too bumpy a road. Birth control was the province of sailors and prostitutes and Christians didn't do that sort of thing. Not so much the advent of the Pill, but instead its general acceptance in society, both secular and Christian seems to have almost killed off the last vestiges of opposition to contraception. Find me a place where the Roman church is not ridiculed for its historical stance on the matter - it is almost universal. We worry so much about the world polluting the church for the most part,[/QUOT
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John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
PD wrote:
Find me a place where the Roman church is not ridiculed for its historical stance on the matter - it is almost universal.
That's probably because it is a tongue-in-cheek stance. The unregenerate, without faith, cannot please God. And the popish church hardly has a good track record on these issues.
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"We can wax eloquent for post after post about the creeping liberalism in the church even in the 1800s and the effects that it had on once-clear and mandated practices, about the death of orthodoxy in places like Harvard, the once-brilliant seminary. Exclusive psalmody, head covering, etc. are easily quoted in their ecclesiastical historical contexts to show the rising influence of worldliness in the church and a moving away from biblical ordinances.

"But we don't like to touch the church teachings on birth control, because we've gone so far in the other direction that a return to them is too bumpy a road. Birth control was the province of sailors and prostitutes and Christians didn't do that sort of thing. Not so much the advent of the Pill, but instead its general acceptance in society, both secular and Christian seems to have almost killed off the last vestiges of opposition to contraception. Find me a place where the Roman church is not ridiculed for its historical stance on the matter - it is almost universal. We worry so much about the world polluting the church for the most part, but this issue, for some reason, is beyond the Pale."

Puritanboard Doctor

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