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SUNDAY, APR 28, 2013  |  40 comments  |  1 commentary
More Than Half of Evangelicals View Islam as a Violent Religion
More than half of evangelical Christians (52 percent) view Islam as "essentially a violent religion," a new report from Barna Group reveals, though only about a quarter (26 percent) of all American adults feel the same way.

Despite the general perception of Islam within the evangelical community, 68 percent of evangelicals agree with the statement: "Peace between Christians and Muslims is possible." Researchers also found that 79 percent of mainline Christians, 82 percent of college graduates and 75 percent of all American adults also believe such peace is possible. ...


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News Item5/4/13 1:53 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
"More Than Half of Evangelicals View Islam as a Violent Religion"

More than half? What do the rest believe, in light of what Islam itself teaches of infidels?

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News Item5/4/13 9:46 AM
Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
Michael Snow wrote:
Of course, Muslims may see Evangelicals the same way given our recent history. Moody and Spurgeon clearly opposed warfare but few evangelicals have read their words on such. http://spurgeonwarquotes.wordpress.com/
Just trying to understand, are you saying that evangelicals are the ones who have started or gone to war against the Muslims? or that Muslims would just view all non-Muslims as evangelicals and blame us for fighting back in a war they started against us?
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News Item5/4/13 8:49 AM
Michael Snow | South Dakota  Find all comments by Michael Snow
Of course, Muslims may see Evangelicals the same way given our recent history. Moody and Spurgeon clearly opposed warfare but few evangelicals have read their words on such. http://spurgeonwarquotes.wordpress.com/
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News Item4/30/13 5:27 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Unprofitable Servant wrote:
Thank you for that good response. I would say that Jeremiah [29:13] was addressing the people of God. They were in captivity for the sinning against the Lord. He admonished them to seek the Lord. I would think all God's people should be encouraged to do that. I would also say we should encourage the lost to seek the Lord while He may be found. But I cannot say that an unsaved person just because they are sincerely seeking God in their false religion will have an opportunity for salvation just because they are seeking it with all their heart. They must hear the gospel from the Word of God, and they must be born again.
I agree fully with your post, US.

Men do not by nature seek God in the way he has prescribed. There are plenty of religious people in the world, and their religion or religiosity will not save them, no matter how sincere, no matter how vehemently the ecumenists claim it.

It is for this reason that missionary effort is crucial, and the people of God should make it an absolute priority to ensure that the great and glorious gospel of Jesus Christ is presented to the entire world.

As you say, men MUST be born again, or there is no heaven for them.

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News Item4/30/13 1:13 AM
MS  Find all comments by MS
You are reading Adonais correctly.
You answer was spot on,
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News Item4/30/13 1:07 AM
MS  Find all comments by MS
Unprofitable Servant from Georgia:
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News Item4/29/13 7:09 PM
Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
verse wrote:
Jeremiah 29:13
King James Version (KJV)
13 And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart.
Thank you for that good response. I would say that Jeremiah was addressing the people of God. They were in captivity for the sinning against the Lord. He admonished them to seek the Lord. I would think all God's people should be encouraged to do that. I would also say we should encourage the lost to seek the Lord while He may be found. But I cannot say that an unsaved person just because they are sincerely seeking God in their false religion will have an opportunity for salvation just because they are seeking it with all their heart. They must hear the gospel from the Word of God, and they must be born again. If that is not what the Adonai post is implying then I stand corrected. Help, please, from my fellow SA forum members, am I reading the post incorrectly?

There is a way that seems right unto man but the end thereof are the ways of death. (Proverbs 14:12)

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News Item4/29/13 3:46 PM
verse  Find all comments by verse
Unprofitable Servant wrote:
Maybe I am misinterpreting what you are saying, but the Scriptures plainly state in more than one place, there is none that seeks after God. Jesus plainly taught that no one comes to the Father except through Him as Rufus pointed out. Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God. Of His own will begat He us through the Word of truth. So, unless a Muslim hears the gospel and is born from above, he will not see the kingdom of God.
Jeremiah 29:13

King James Version (KJV)

13 And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart.

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News Item4/29/13 3:36 PM
Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
Adonai wrote:
...
There is no similarity between the two.
Despite this, one could believe there are Muslims, completely trapped by their surroundings, seeking God with all their heart, soul and mind, and believe that Christ reveals himself even up to the point of their death and gives them a choice to believe on him.
One could also believe there will be those known as Muslims on this earth, who will be in heaven with us.
Those who seek God with their whole heart will not be disappointed.
Maybe I am misinterpreting what you are saying, but the Scriptures plainly state in more than one place, there is none that seeks after God. Jesus plainly taught that no one comes to the Father except through Him as Rufus pointed out. Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God. Of His own will begat He us through the Word of truth. So, unless a Muslim hears the gospel and is born from above, he will not see the kingdom of God.
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News Item4/29/13 1:51 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Observer wrote:
Hey John,
1. You missed Steve's major error, which he loves to promote viz. that the whore in Rev 17 is the bride of Christ!
2. Hence his question to Rufus about Roman Catholics being members of the bride.

3. There isn't a Bible man among them! Not one single person that cares for God's word!
4. All they ever do is proof-text, quote from their theologians, LIE about history and meaning of the word baptize, and engage in vain philosophy and childish games.
5. These are supposedly the godly progeny of Abraham! Makes me want to puke

1.
2.
3. It seems so.
4. I think everyone here has noticed that.
5. Easy - I've just had my tea.
6. Mr Calvin & Mr Knox.
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News Item4/29/13 1:45 PM
Rufus | Fort Worth, TX  Protected NameContact via emailFind all comments by Rufus
blowtheshofar wrote:
Rufus, are you saying the Roman Catholics are members of the Bride?
No sir. I am saying the Roman Catholic church is the whore / mother of harlots.

Btw...Excellent post on Islam.

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News Item4/29/13 1:35 PM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
Rufus wrote:
In the Bible there are verses such as the following that show "hills" as what we think of to be "mountains".
Genesis 7:19 - And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered.
If you are not convinced, where do you believe the city of 7 hills to be if not Rome?
I dont know, but you will have to be more convincing then listing the 7 hills of Rome to convince anyone
also answer
1) Why didnt John of Patmos use the Greek word 'bounos' to make it clear its 'hill' and not 'mountain'
2) How do you answer the Biblical correlation of the 'Mountains' being also the Beasts 'Heads'
Revelation 17:9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.

The argument that its Rome was popular during the Counter Reformation, as Catholics killed Protestants. However, during the 30 year war, we discovered Protestants could kill Saints as easily as Rome could...so the Rome idea really doesnt fly, and certainly not today

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News Item4/29/13 1:33 PM
Observer  Find all comments by Observer
John UK wrote:
Reminds me of Queen Mary of England again; see what happens when an unregenerate religious worldling gets into power - persecution of the saints!
Hey John,

You missed Steve's major error, which he loves to promote viz. that the whore in Rev 17 is the bride of Christ!

Hence his question to Rufus about Roman Catholics being members of the bride.

John UK wrote:
As umpire, I must give a warning to the PS's, that if they do not engage with the scriptures furnished, and continue to ignore the points put forward, they are in grave danger of disqualification.
There isn't a Bible man among them! Not one single person that cares for God's word!

All they ever do is proof-text, quote from their theologians, LIE about history and meaning of the word baptize, and engage in vain philosophy and childish games.

These are supposedly the godly progeny of Abraham! Makes me want to puke

Then we have the RCC troll who cannot think let alone make any sensible case who claims that I am making his case for him. I always doubted his comprehension skills, but I had no idea how chronic the case was. Must be the magic water!

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News Item4/29/13 1:14 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
in loco parentis wrote:
Worldlings will always relentlessly abhor Christ's Bride.
Reminds me of Queen Mary of England again; see what happens when an unregenerate religious worldling gets into power - persecution of the saints!
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News Item4/29/13 1:01 PM
blowtheshofar | USA  Find all comments by blowtheshofar
Rufus, are you saying the Roman Catholics are members of the Bride?
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News Item4/29/13 12:59 PM
blowtheshofar | USA  Find all comments by blowtheshofar
About the hills: Not every language distinguishes between a hill and a mountain. The Apostle John was a Jew. In fact, in Hebrew, the word "har" can mean either "hill "or "mountain."

And there is another city built on seven hills/mountains: Mecca. Whether Mecca or Rome is the evil city, Islam has ties to Roman Catholicism in it's origins. Muhammad's cousin was a Catholic nun, for example. I'm no expert on any of this, but if you think of bible-prophecy as describing Islam, I can see it describing one or the other...or both.

About the public's view of Islam: Most Muslims I've met are very friendly, some less than others. I believe God has given me (not raising myself up by any means) a sensitive heart for Muslim people. I am for keeping life sacred, including a Muslim's life. What I am strongly against is Islam. If I were to view Islam as warm, peaceful, and friendly, I'd consider myself a traitor to my country and my Christian faith. Islam wants to dominate and kill, so bringing "friendly" Muslims to America is just propaganda.

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News Item4/29/13 12:55 PM
in loco parentis  Find all comments by in loco parentis
Rufus wrote:
Revelation 17:6 - And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.
The woman is the whore on seven hills, the hills are in Rome. The whore will later be destroyed. Neither the whore nor the whore's destroyer are Islam.
Why is the Bride of Christ maligned as the Whore of Babylon? Jesus himself answered the question:

"If they have called the master of the house Beelzebul, how much more will they malign those of his household" (Matt. 10:25).

"If the world hates you, know that it has hated me before it hated you. If you were of the world, the world would love its own; but because you are not of the world . . . the world hates you. Remember the word that I said to you, ‘A servant is not greater than his master.’ If they persecuted me, they will persecute you" (John 15:18–20).

Worldlings will always relentlessly abhor Christ's Bride. It's in their nature. Pray for them and do not curse.

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News Item4/29/13 12:36 PM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Protected NameFind all comments by Michael Hranek
seven hills near you wrote:
Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:
List of cities claimed to be built on seven hills:
seven hills

Please don't become too much of an expert in this as you might miss the obvious, what God Himself says in His description of the Great Harlot, this infamous spiritual "entity" in Revelations, and the things she has done, does and will yet do identifies one city clearly, Rome.

Cincinnati, OH United States
ROTFL

But seriously ever hear of the Inquisition ?

Genuine born again believers ought to weep in prayer that people professing themselves to be Christians would refuse to face the truth, warn people of Catholicism and do all we might rightfully do to see Catholic people saved.

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News Item4/29/13 11:45 AM
seven hills near you  Find all comments by seven hills near you
Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:

List of cities claimed to be built on seven hills:

Amman, Jordan
Asunción, Paraguay
Bath, England
Cincinnati, OH United States
Edinburgh, Scotland
Istanbul, Turkey
Jerusalem, Israel
Kampala, Uganda
Lisbon, Portugal
Moscow, Russia
Nevada City, United States

Prague, Czech Republic, said to be built on seven or nine hills: Hrad?any, Vítkov, (Opyš), V?trov, Skalka, (Emauzy), Vyšehrad, Karlov and Pet?ín

Providence, Rhode Island, built on Christian Hill, College Hill, Constitution Hill, Federal Hill, Smith Hill, Tockwotten Hill, and Weybosset Hill.

Rome, Italy
Saint-Etienne, France
Seattle, United States
Sheffield, England
Tirumala, India
Worcester, Massachusetts, United States
Plovdiv, Bulgaria
Ceuta, Morocco

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News Item4/29/13 11:32 AM
Rufus | Fort Worth, TX  Protected NameContact via emailFind all comments by Rufus
SteveR wrote:
Revelation 17 says 7 Mountains not hills
The correct translation confirms MOUNTAINS not hills
(KJV)Revelation 17:9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.
Look it up in the AV, or better yet the Received Text and you will find the correct translation for 'oros' is mountains
In the Bible there are verses such as the following that show "hills" as what we think of to be "mountains".

Genesis 7:19 - And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered.

If you are not convinced, where do you believe the city of 7 hills to be if not Rome?

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